THE DEBATES 2016

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    I can't wait till The Don makes the Hildabeast cry like a little baby and walks over to her podium a gives her his handkerchief then fires that no good lying female dog....This is going to be must watch TV.

    If she sinks to his level of schoolboy shenanigans, he might indeed make her cry.
    If she forces him to prove he knows something about governance, he will look pretty dumb.
    The guy has literally admitted he has no clue on most issues, "I consult myself, I have a very good brain" isn't going to cut it.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Wobbie said:

    Can't wait. Hopefully, this exposes Trump as the idiot, blowhard he is. Just can't see him making his case in a debate format.

    Unfortunately, his followers will probably look the other way.

    maybe I'm wrong on both counts....

    Just like Hillary supporters have looked away the past 30 years

  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    She also has the added difficulty of navigating the inherent sexism in America.
    If she is equally aggressive as Trump it will be viewed by many in a negative way, she can't be as forceful without being seen as a "shrew" and whatnot. Her voice doesn't do her any favors there.
    This is well documented and recognized among folks who do PR, marketing, focus groups and all that.
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  • muskydan said:

    I can't wait till The Don makes the Hildabeast cry like a little baby and walks over to her podium a gives her his handkerchief then fires that no good lying female dog....This is going to be must watch TV.

    Not even if Barbara Walters was moderating...
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    I can't wait till The Don makes the Hildabeast cry like a little baby and walks over to her podium a gives her his handkerchief then fires that no good lying female dog....This is going to be must watch TV.

    If she sinks to his level of schoolboy shenanigans, he might indeed make her cry.
    If she forces him to prove he knows something about governance, he will look pretty dumb.
    The guy has literally admitted he has no clue on most issues, "I consult myself, I have a very good brain" isn't going to cut it.
    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    I can't wait till The Don makes the Hildabeast cry like a little baby and walks over to her podium a gives her his handkerchief then fires that no good lying female dog....This is going to be must watch TV.

    If she sinks to his level of schoolboy shenanigans, he might indeed make her cry.
    If she forces him to prove he knows something about governance, he will look pretty dumb.
    The guy has literally admitted he has no clue on most issues, "I consult myself, I have a very good brain" isn't going to cut it.
    "I consult myself, I have a very good brain"....now that's some funny shit there. It truly is amazing to me that people hate Hillary so much that they are willing to vote for Trump and his arrogance yet honest campaign. Perhaps some of you guys will give him a chance to follow through of his promise to make America Great Again if he Wins like I did when Barry Won 8 years ago leaving my personal experiences with him in Chicago when he was a Community Activist. That lasted about 3 months, but I was willing to give him a chance.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    g under p said:

    Trump will do his usual ad libs and be funny in doing so, while his fans will love and eat it up. I won't watch the tomfoolery.

    Peace

    My thoughts exactly. This will be worse than any stupid reality TV I can imagine.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    rgambs said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    She also has the added difficulty of navigating the inherent sexism in America.
    If she is equally aggressive as Trump it will be viewed by many in a negative way, she can't be as forceful without being seen as a "shrew" and whatnot. Her voice doesn't do her any favors there.
    This is well documented and recognized among folks who do PR, marketing, focus groups and all that.
    Good post. It is frustrating, because I sometimes fall into this, and have to catch myself. When Hillary starts raising her voice it does come across like nails on a chalkboard to me, but I recognize that she needs to be assertive and at times aggressive, especially in her own defense. Trump will be stirring shit up and in general being a dick, but he'll get a pass. Hillary will have to defend herself, probably roll her eyes or make faces a few times trying to shrug it off, or raise her voice to get a point across, and she'll be the one to be made to look bad. She will easily out-debate Trump, but she won't necessarily "win" the debate. That's the dilemma for her. The debate has the potential to do more harm than good for her campaign.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    Oh, please. Between Two Ferns is clearly edited to present all of his guests in the worst possible light. Her level of annoyance was on par with any other of his guests.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    edited September 2016

    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
    I think she was aware that is was a joke and her people told her it would be hip to do, but I don't think she was acting and playing along past the two minute mark.

    Also, why would Hillary agree to do something that would show her in the worst possible light? That's not her M.O.
    Post edited by Jason P on
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
    I think she was aware that is was a joke and her people told her it would be hip to do, but I don't think she was acting and playing along past the two minute mark.

    Also, why would Hillary agree to do something that would show her in the worst possible light? That's not her M.O.
    If that's not her M.O., then shame on "her people" for proposing it, as it's clearly Zach Galifianakis' M.O.
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    benjs said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
    I think she was aware that is was a joke and her people told her it would be hip to do, but I don't think she was acting and playing along past the two minute mark.

    Also, why would Hillary agree to do something that would show her in the worst possible light? That's not her M.O.
    If that's not her M.O., then shame on "her people" for proposing it, as it's clearly Zach Galifianakis' M.O.
    She came out and admitted it was a mistake..that's not her element, not even close....she couldn't control that "interview" and you're right her people dropped the ball

  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited September 2016
    The jokes on us, Trump debating? He will do no such thing. He will be the general turd, dick, assclown he always is and the mouth breathers will eat it up.

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    Post edited by Smellyman on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    jeffbr said:

    rgambs said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    She also has the added difficulty of navigating the inherent sexism in America.
    If she is equally aggressive as Trump it will be viewed by many in a negative way, she can't be as forceful without being seen as a "shrew" and whatnot. Her voice doesn't do her any favors there.
    This is well documented and recognized among folks who do PR, marketing, focus groups and all that.
    Good post. It is frustrating, because I sometimes fall into this, and have to catch myself. When Hillary starts raising her voice it does come across like nails on a chalkboard to me, but I recognize that she needs to be assertive and at times aggressive, especially in her own defense. Trump will be stirring shit up and in general being a dick, but he'll get a pass. Hillary will have to defend herself, probably roll her eyes or make faces a few times trying to shrug it off, or raise her voice to get a point across, and she'll be the one to be made to look bad. She will easily out-debate Trump, but she won't necessarily "win" the debate. That's the dilemma for her. The debate has the potential to do more harm than good for her campaign.
    Mostly good advice except the faces. Her coaches would do well to suggest she NOT make faces. They end up on bad looking memes every time.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited September 2016
    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
    I think she was aware that is was a joke and her people told her it would be hip to do, but I don't think she was acting and playing along past the two minute mark.

    Also, why would Hillary agree to do something that would show her in the worst possible light? That's not her M.O.
    Have you ever watched between 2 ferns before? It's all staged comedy, aimed to put the guest in a good light. All the questions have been vetted before hand. Hillary knew exactly what she was doing.

    She was joking about regretting the interview.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/09/22/hillary-clinton-says-regrets-between-two-ferns-interview-with-zach-galifianakis.html


    Whoosh! I feel like AMT has been taken over by a bunch of 80 year olds screaming "get off my lawn". You clearly didn't get it.
    Post edited by dignin on
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    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    This debate is a bigger risk to Hillary. Trump could take a poop on the podium and his polling numbers might drop a few points at most. His stratagy has worked. He can no longer shock us. He has attained Mike Tyson zone where any story you could dream up may possibly be true.

    If Hillary has to take a pee break or goes into a coughing fit or goes insane for having to deal with Trump, her numbers will drop more.

    agree. sad but Hillary must appear fully healthy or it will be very bad for her. she needs to be strong, decisive and not get frustrated by his baiting. he will say nothing of consequence.
    If her interview (?) with Zach Galifianakis is any indication, she is capable of acting like she is not annoyed by someone for about 2 minutes max. How will she survive 90 minutes with Trump?

    Is Vegas taking bets on how long before she cracks and chucks a microphone at Trump's head?
    seriously?....it's all a joke man
    I think she was aware that is was a joke and her people told her it would be hip to do, but I don't think she was acting and playing along past the two minute mark.

    Also, why would Hillary agree to do something that would show her in the worst possible light? That's not her M.O.
    Bad publicity (even if it's just for laughs) is still publicity. ;)
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016
    Netnyahoo giving the instructions. He meets with Trump first then Hilliary.

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/