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Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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You just played moby dick on my drum kit for real!mrussel1 said:
That's so wrong. I'm proof right in your face.BS44325 said:
There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!Gern Blansten said:I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.
If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.0 -
Haha ha ha that's laughable Trump better for the good of this country haha ha , I'd rather be dead than pull the lever for Trump !!BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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My point wasn't about what she accomplished but rather whether the media created her. You can look up her senate voting record and work the CF does on your own and make your own determination about what's she's accomplished. My guess is is that it far surpasses anything you may have accomplished.bootlegger10 said:
Well, she was those things. What did she accomplish?Halifax2TheMax said:
The media didn't create Hillary. She was FLOTUS, got herself elected as a senator from New York and was Secretary of State. The media doesn't create that kind of track record, whether you like her/dislike her, support her or not or agree/disagree with her policies. If anything, the media, particularly the alt-right media, has been trying to destroy her for the past 25 years.pjalive21 said:
Replace Trump with Hillary and subtract reality tv show and that statement is 100% accurateKat said:The media created him...they need to uncreate him. If Trump wants a reality tv show, let's have reality take over. He hides too much about himself and lies and it's time to shine the bright light on everything about him. It's the Presidency. It's time.
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can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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I don't know what you mean, but I sure as hell would like to be able do anything JB could do... starting with drinking a fifth of Jack in a sitting.BS44325 said:
You just played moby dick on my drum kit for real!mrussel1 said:
That's so wrong. I'm proof right in your face.BS44325 said:
There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!Gern Blansten said:I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.
If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.0 -
dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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the fear has taken hold.BS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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I feel like you are trolling everyone here. You are not typically this unhinged in your comments.BS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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what storm are you referring too? what has you worried? what is worse today than it was 8 years ago when Obama took over?BS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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can i ask what storm you are talking about? you have a guy who attacks people on twitter (should a president or prime minster ever be on twitter?) whenever he is attack, he will make your "storm" worseBS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.HughFreakingDillon said:dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.
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BS, are you saying that the only positive with Trump is "maybe he's better", and that that's enough? Without this storm analogy, what actual risks are you feeling that Trump is prepared to take compared to Clinton? Also, in what ways has Clinton shown her incompetence (again, above and beyond the ways Trump has)? Finally, who has compromised her? Is she in bed with Putin? The Iranians?BS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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I don't think this is unhinged. It is pretty consistent to how I have always been on here. I am explaining why people like myself will support Trump even if they typically do not like him.mrussel1 said:
I feel like you are trolling everyone here. You are not typically this unhinged in your comments.BS44325 said:
I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.fife said:
can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.BS44325 said:
Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.fife said:
why?BS44325 said:
Yesfife said:BS44325 said:
It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.Go Beavers said:
A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.BS44325 said:
I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.fife said:sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?
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what about those things you have listed to you think Trump will help improve?BS44325 said:
North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.HughFreakingDillon said:dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.
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I am not running for president. My accomplishments are irrelevant to this discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:
My point wasn't about what she accomplished but rather whether the media created her. You can look up her senate voting record and work the CF does on your own and make your own determination about what's she's accomplished. My guess is is that it far surpasses anything you may have accomplished.bootlegger10 said:
Well, she was those things. What did she accomplish?Halifax2TheMax said:
The media didn't create Hillary. She was FLOTUS, got herself elected as a senator from New York and was Secretary of State. The media doesn't create that kind of track record, whether you like her/dislike her, support her or not or agree/disagree with her policies. If anything, the media, particularly the alt-right media, has been trying to destroy her for the past 25 years.pjalive21 said:
Replace Trump with Hillary and subtract reality tv show and that statement is 100% accurateKat said:The media created him...they need to uncreate him. If Trump wants a reality tv show, let's have reality take over. He hides too much about himself and lies and it's time to shine the bright light on everything about him. It's the Presidency. It's time.
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https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-most-peaceful-time-in-human-historyBS44325 said:
North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.HughFreakingDillon said:dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.
By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
You left out Oceania, Eurasia and EastasiaBS44325 said:
North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.HughFreakingDillon said:dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.
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