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    eddiec said:

    Funny you bring up the Olympics. So many people had their knickers in a twist over Gabby Douglas. I guess they didn't see Kaepernick coming.
    Hope solo lost her job for calling a country a coward during the olympics. Timing plays a huge part in this.
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    pjhawks said:

    freedom of speech gives you the right to say something, it doesn't mean you can't be criticized or questioned about said speech. No one is advocating that Kaepernick doesn't have to right to protest it in this manner.
    Exactly. It's OK for Kaepernick to do what he did. And it's OK for people to not like what he did.
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    Exactly. It's OK for Kaepernick to do what he did. And it's OK for people to not like what he did.
    And it's ok for the 49ers to fire him if they so choose for this.
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    And it's ok for the 49ers to fire him if they so choose for this.
    Of course it is. No one has argued otherwise...
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    Of course it is. No one has argued otherwise...
    No, but in the context of this thread where at least 2 posters have stated 1) that people were "arm chair warriors" and 2) people would riot if he did get cut, it's relevant.
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    Of course it is. No one has argued otherwise...
    And he'll end up as the Viking's starter now that Bridgewater is out.
  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    eddiec said:

    And he'll end up as the Viking's starter now that Bridgewater is out.
    Not likely just given his contract alone. The Vikings are probably among the teams most afraid of the big "D" (Distraction). And that's saying a lot in the NFL. They may have cut a punter for being to vocal about gay rights. There is no way they are bring this guy in.
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    Kap was a distraction to the 49ers before this and it was said he was alienated by the rest of the team, so I don't see the Vikings bringing him into the fold. I would try to bring Kyle Orton out of retirement before going after Kap.
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    The NFL has mastered the art of forced patriotism.

    You are considered patriotic in America if you:

    1- Go on social media and proclaim that the President is a piece of shit.
    2- Jerk off daily to Tomi Lahren
    3- Own more than 1 gun
  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    One thing Kaepernick should have realized is that while what he did has a ton of nuance and, with critical thought, can be the impetus for important discussions, there is no room for critical thought or nuance here. Knee-jerk is the only way. If he's surprised by the reaction, then he's a little tone-deaf to how Americans (particularly NFL fans) react to any perceived slight to the idea that America is #1. He's now public enemy number 1 in a league with enough rap sheets to wallpaper the locker room.
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  • Posts: 19,289
    If you get political in sports, you are ostracized and lose your brand appeal (see: Curt Shilling). I hope Kap is putting the $11M he makes this year into a savings plan.
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    edited August 2016

    So you feel that all people in this country are treated equally and have the same opportunities?
    I do not base my feelings on infinitives like "all" or "none" or "everyone" or "everything". I think there are circumstances and choices that lead to positive or negative results. I do not believe that there is some conspiracy that the police force has against black people. Equal opportunity...I lived in a small town growing up and did not have the same or "equal" opportunities that those living in the city had...and vise versa. We all have different standards and beliefs and skills that keep all of us from being treated as "equals" in different aspects of society. I believe this utopian idea that everyone some day will magically live like kings and not face hurdles or hardships or judgement for their actions is completely unrealistic. I also believe that the media and politicians are hyping up racial tensions for higher ratings/votes. I believe that Kaepernick is or will be just another pawn for one of the above.
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  • I'm not religious, but by the same arguments some make here... it would be okay to walk into church wearing a hat, yellow armpit drained white muscle shirt, cut a bunch of farts, and yap incessantly while the pastor tries to issue his sermon?

    There's just some things people do out of respect. Are people here thinking Kap is worthy of respect for showing none?

    He's been a member of privilege- privileged by the same system he scorned. Pat Tillman walked the walk. If Kap wants to get serious... then walk away from the sport and get busy. He's an idiot. And one of the highest order. Pure and simple.
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    I'm not religious, but by the same arguments some make here... it would be okay to walk into church wearing a hat, yellow armpit drained white muscle shirt, cut a bunch of farts, and yap incessantly while the pastor tries to issue his sermon?

    There's just some things people do out of respect. Are people here thinking Kap is worthy of respect for showing none?

    He's been a member of privilege- privileged by the same system he scorned. Pat Tillman walked the walk. If Kap wants to get serious... then walk away from the sport and get busy. He's an idiot. And one of the highest order. Pure and simple.

    Agreed!
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    I'm not religious, but by the same arguments some make here... it would be okay to walk into church wearing a hat, yellow armpit drained white muscle shirt, cut a bunch of farts, and yap incessantly while the pastor tries to issue his sermon?

    There's just some things people do out of respect. Are people here thinking Kap is worthy of respect for showing none?

    He's been a member of privilege- privileged by the same system he scorned. Pat Tillman walked the walk. If Kap wants to get serious... then walk away from the sport and get busy. He's an idiot. And one of the highest order. Pure and simple.

    I don't understand how these two things are at all similar. They are actually the opposite.
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    So everyone who has an issue with something should just join the army or police? You shouldn't express your opinion on anything?
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    Bringing up Pat Tillman is actually a perfect example. If Pat Tillman were alive today, I am pretty confident he would be the first person defending Kaepernick.
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    Stefan would have liked this thread.
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    September 2014 Flag
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  • In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    He didn't want to protest when he was a starter? My opinion, protesters have a more "look at me" than wanting to actually solving the problem they are protesting for.

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