Trump

PJ_Soul said:

The Juggler said:

rustneversleeps said:

mrussel1 said:

rustneversleeps said:

mrussel1 said:

rustneversleeps said:

PJ_Soul said:

As much as I can't stand Ted Cruz, his speech was fantastic, lol. I wish there was more footage of all the people on the floor of the convention while he gave it, just for entertainment's sake.
But now that I'm over the minor glee his speech caused, I go right back to being really worried about Ted Cruz, who I have maintained would be even worse that Trump. He's an evangelical who wants to apply his religion in politics, and that scares me more than anything. I definitely feel like he is trying to set himself up for something down the road. Who knows how far he wants to take it. Is it as simple and having his eyes on the next election? Or is it a more complicated plan? Perhaps he is trying to basically form a new tea party kind of thing, but legit this time. If the GOP is doomed, as some seem to think, maybe he is twisting his mustache and plotting a kind of Republican take-over.

he should have kept his word like a man. he's a coward, nothing fantastic about it.

So if Donald Trump changed his platform to include "deportation of non-Christians who commit misdemeanors or above", is Cruz obligated to support due to the promise? Of course not.

Is he obligated to support after Trump said Cruz's father was connected to JFK assassination or that he's going to 'spill the beans' on Heidi Cruz and that awful tweet he sent. Is he obligated there? Fuck no. Circumstances changed. Trump 'devolved' and became an even bigger piece of shit than before. I don't think that 'promise' holds.

a pledge is a pledge...

No it isn't. I pledge allegiance to the flag, but if we become a fascist dictatorship, that pledge is out the door. If you pledge unconditionally, then you are a spineless lemming.

maybe where you come from. where i come from a pledge is a pledge.

We come from the same place!

I don't think either of you have thought this through enough, lol.

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

One thing Trump has said is that other countries need to step up with their military spending.
America is tired of being the worlds Band-Aid.
I know many people on this train love the fact that America will come and bomb the shit out of you if you don't see eye to eye with them.
So when Trump says this why does it rattle NATO?
And why does he need this much security? He is just one man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/world/europe/donald-trumps-remarks-rattle-nato-allies-and-stoke-debate-on-cost-sharing.html?_r=0

Okay, I see you've dramatically shifted gears again, lol.
I think it's laughable that Trump or anyone else would whine about American miliary spending over seas as though people around the world are just begging them to bomb shit in other countries, lol. If the government doesn't want to spend money on bombing shit in other countries, then fucking don't. Simple as that. There is no need to suggest that other countries "step up" to take its place, as though it's such a valiant thing to do. For most politicians I would maybe think such a comment is a bad attempt at masking the real reasons behind such military action, which the government is 100% on board with (money/oil/control), but in Trump's case, I'm going to just blame total ignorance.

rustneversleeps said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rustneversleeps said:

well, i have people assuming they know my intentions. then another calling me a spineless lemming for my beliefs. then we have you saying hitler himself would like me. all because i was raised to keep my word. the RadLibs are too much sometimes....

You are not alone. You're another example of someone who gets confused that Liberals are hateful to the core if you don't have the same thoughts as them yet they preach about open hearts, compassion and tolerance.

THE Don couldnt have said it any better himself!

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

One thing Trump has said is that other countries need to step up with their military spending.
America is tired of being the worlds Band-Aid.
I know many people on this train love the fact that America will come and bomb the shit out of you if you don't see eye to eye with them.
So when Trump says this why does it rattle NATO?
And why does he need this much security? He is just one man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/world/europe/donald-trumps-remarks-rattle-nato-allies-and-stoke-debate-on-cost-sharing.html?_r=0

Okay, I see you've dramatically shifted gears again, lol.
I think it's laughable that Trump or anyone else would whine about American miliary spending over seas as though people around the world are just begging them to bomb shit in other countries, lol. If the government doesn't want to spend money on bombing shit in other countries, then fucking don't. Simple as that. There is no need to suggest that other countries "step up" to take its place, as though it's such a valiant thing to do. For most politicians I would maybe think such a comment is a bad attempt at masking the real reasons behind such military action, which the government is 100% on board with (money/oil/control), but in Trump's case, I'm going to just blame total ignorance.

Yeah! PJSoul and I like that you guys shoulder the burden for us. Trump should just pipe down and let us continue living under your security umbrella. We don't have the money or the desire to participate in world security so stop spouting nonsense about us stepping up and just keep your pledge to protect us if we ever decide to invoke article 5.