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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJ_Soul said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    brianlux said:

    The Juggler said:

    Trump just said our country always used to win back when he was in college.

    He was in college during the Vietnam war.

    Ah yes! Trump proudly served during Viet Nam. Here he is reenacting his service:

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    Remember Trump got to dodge the draft due to "bone spurs" in his foot. But when he was asked which foot he had bone spurs in he couldn't remember....he told the reporter to "look it up" or something.

    Are we supposed to hate Trump for not fighting in Vietnam? For maybe dodging it in one way or another? Because I hate him for a lot of reasons, but I would never hate anyone for avoiding being sent to fight in that bullshit war and for manipulating that criminal military draft. If anything, I admire people for dodging it.
    There's nothing to admire about a draft dodger who wants to crap on the constitution like Dubya and Cheney did for war and torture.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2016
    OnWis97 said:

    Mike Pence looks like he's going to be the running mate.

    Damn.  That's actually a good choice.  It should help with nervous social conservatives.  I was really hoping he'd make a pick indicative of a guy wanting to throw the election. I think that dream of mine is over.  He intends to win and he will.

    I hope it happens. Just for his anti gay beliefs, he will be Palin to his McCain. It's over for him if this happens. Pence is kryptonite especially after Orlando.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Shawshank said:

    I have always felt pretty confident he will say something during the GE that will cause him to go down in flames, basically handing the Presidency to Hillary. Granted, there's still plenty of time for that. But here a couple weeks ago I thought he'd hit the wall, and was done for. His poll numbers were tanking, and he was doing just awful as expected. In my mind, he didn't stand a chance. However, based on the fact that he keeps talking, still gaining momentum, and is now either a point or two behind, neck and neck or leading Hillary again in some very reputable polls, I'm not 100% sure she can beat him. Adding to this is the fact that there are a lot of fervent voters that were supporting Bernie that would rather die than vote for Hillary, and that may end up being all that's needed. I mean seriously, that alone could be the tipping point. I have no doubt that there will be Bernie supporters that just don't vote, or vote for Trump, just as a "fuck you" to Hillary. So, as unbelievable as it sounds...almost like I entered some alternate universe...I'm betting that wins.

    Gary Johnson is beating Trump with 19-29 year olds

    He won't get any of the Hispanic vote

    He won't get any of the african american vote

    He will get a very small portion of the female vote

    He is not going to win with the old white male vote.

    He's not flipping that many states. I just see no way it can happen. Hillary hasn't even gotten started. She has more money. She has Bill. She has Obama. She has Biden. She has Warren. She has Sanders. They are all extremely popular and are going to unleash hell.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Shawshank said:

    I have always felt pretty confident he will say something during the GE that will cause him to go down in flames, basically handing the Presidency to Hillary. Granted, there's still plenty of time for that. But here a couple weeks ago I thought he'd hit the wall, and was done for. His poll numbers were tanking, and he was doing just awful as expected. In my mind, he didn't stand a chance. However, based on the fact that he keeps talking, still gaining momentum, and is now either a point or two behind, neck and neck or leading Hillary again in some very reputable polls, I'm not 100% sure she can beat him. Adding to this is the fact that there are a lot of fervent voters that were supporting Bernie that would rather die than vote for Hillary, and that may end up being all that's needed. I mean seriously, that alone could be the tipping point. I have no doubt that there will be Bernie supporters that just don't vote, or vote for Trump, just as a "fuck you" to Hillary. So, as unbelievable as it sounds...almost like I entered some alternate universe...I'm betting that wins.

    Gary Johnson is beating Trump with 19-29 year olds

    He won't get any of the Hispanic vote

    He won't get any of the african american vote

    He will get a very small portion of the female vote

    He is not going to win with the old white male vote.

    He's not flipping that many states. I just see no way it can happen. Hillary hasn't even gotten started. She has more money. She has Bill. She has Obama. She has Biden. She has Warren. She has Sanders. They are all extremely popular and are going to unleash hell.
    if the Dems can get any kind of voter turnout and can keep the Bernie supporters from voting for Johnson the Dems win easily. Hillary and the Dem PACs have more money and are already starting their campaigns against Donald. I've already seen the ad with Trump mocking the disabled guy about a 1000 times. it is only going to get worse.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    pjhawks said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Shawshank said:

    I have always felt pretty confident he will say something during the GE that will cause him to go down in flames, basically handing the Presidency to Hillary. Granted, there's still plenty of time for that. But here a couple weeks ago I thought he'd hit the wall, and was done for. His poll numbers were tanking, and he was doing just awful as expected. In my mind, he didn't stand a chance. However, based on the fact that he keeps talking, still gaining momentum, and is now either a point or two behind, neck and neck or leading Hillary again in some very reputable polls, I'm not 100% sure she can beat him. Adding to this is the fact that there are a lot of fervent voters that were supporting Bernie that would rather die than vote for Hillary, and that may end up being all that's needed. I mean seriously, that alone could be the tipping point. I have no doubt that there will be Bernie supporters that just don't vote, or vote for Trump, just as a "fuck you" to Hillary. So, as unbelievable as it sounds...almost like I entered some alternate universe...I'm betting that wins.

    Gary Johnson is beating Trump with 19-29 year olds

    He won't get any of the Hispanic vote

    He won't get any of the african american vote

    He will get a very small portion of the female vote

    He is not going to win with the old white male vote.

    He's not flipping that many states. I just see no way it can happen. Hillary hasn't even gotten started. She has more money. She has Bill. She has Obama. She has Biden. She has Warren. She has Sanders. They are all extremely popular and are going to unleash hell.
    if the Dems can get any kind of voter turnout and can keep the Bernie supporters from voting for Johnson the Dems win easily. Hillary and the Dem PACs have more money and are already starting their campaigns against Donald. I've already seen the ad with Trump mocking the disabled guy about a 1000 times. it is only going to get worse.
    I did see that ad as well. Agreed, though. This shouldn't be a contest.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,130
    edited July 2016
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/07/14/1548302/-White-House-masterfully-trolls-Donald-Trump-s-reported-VP-pick?detail=facebook
    President Obama’s chief spokesman Josh Earnest lauded Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) for deciding to expand Medicaid in his state under ObamaCare.
    "I know that Gov. Pence did do some important work with the administration to expand Medicaid in his state," Earnest told reporters when asked what Obama thinks of the governor. "That’s something President Obama has been encouraging Democratic and Republican governors across the country to do."
    Trump campaign insists a decision hasn't been made yet....I'm wondering if they leaked Pence in order to see what the initial reaction is.

    Not a bad idea.
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,288
    I think he has a chance. Hillary is not a good candidate. Twice she should have cake-walked to the nomination, but got beat once and had a socialist give her a run for the money this year, which will cost her votes.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,130
    http://usuncut.com/resistance/trump-and-cruz-sitting-in-a-tree/

    awesome
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    edited July 2016
    Jason P said:

    I think he has a chance. Hillary is not a good candidate. Twice she should have cake-walked to the nomination, but got beat once and had a socialist give her a run for the money this year, which will cost her votes.

    Of course he has a chance. A decent one at that. I just can't see it happening given the reasons I mentioned above, among many others.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a46695/donald-trump-candidacy-american-democracy/
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,288
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jason P said:

    I think he has a chance. Hillary is not a good candidate. Twice she should have cake-walked to the nomination, but got beat once and had a socialist give her a run for the money this year, which will cost her votes.

    Of course he has a chance. A decent one at that. I just can't see it happening given the reasons I mentioned above, among many others.
    Considering a good portion of the population is trying to catch Pokemon with their phones, anything is possible.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,229
    Gern Blansten said:

    http://usuncut.com/resistance/trump-and-cruz-sitting-in-a-tree/

    awesome

    Will that billboard still be up when the convention starts?

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The Juggler said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    I realize the stats you provided.
    It may be an indicator but when stats on a race become important it says a lot about the current situation.
    Who is pumping these stats out on how a candidate is losing or gaining a black population?
    Does the black population have that much swing? Or in any case what race has more influence to elect Hillary?

    I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about....yet you talk about it incessantly, which is odd.
    https://youtu.be/Br1p_2FSE84
    I am beginning to see a pattern here.
    If some posters don't get an agreement to their answers or they don't understand the questions of another they pull out the troll card.
    Again - take your heads out of the hole and look around a bit and realize that Trump could very well be your next POTUS.
    This is not trolling it's a fact.
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    Funny, coming from the guy still discerning the difference between medicaid and Medicare. You still haven't squared up that argument, let alone the fact that block grants merely shift the burden to the state.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    What do you want to know? Square it up?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What do you want to know? Square it up?

    Your argument had no merit because you confused two different entitlement programs. Is almost like you were trolling. So I'm asking if you can support Trumps contradictory economics program.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What do you want to know? Square it up?

    Your argument had no merit because you confused two different entitlement programs. Is almost like you were trolling. So I'm asking if you can support Trumps contradictory economics program.
    Trump would like a universal healthcare system like us.
    He wants to make sure even the people at the "bottom" or in poverty are taken care of through the concepts of medicare. For instance with his plan he would allow pre-existing conditions.
    Also he would eliminate "borders" when shopping for care plans. This would allow competition and offer many rates.
    I don't have all the facts and figures of your healthcare inner workings but what Trump is proposing and what he is criticizing doesn't seem too preposterous.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    And will his plans eliminate the debt in 28 months, as he claimed, or balloon it as economists have said?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    Sorry. ..18 MONTHS!
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016
    Trump will get flack for this too I bet http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-postpones-vp-announcement-citing-france-attacks-1.2987714

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    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    What they actually know what going on in France ???? Shock horror, folks taught them well
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