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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    ^^^

    He will,be remembered for all the bad things and none of the good things.

    This is no one's fault but his own.

    True.
    Never the less we are all happy that a majority liberal govt is in power.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:

    ^^^

    He will,be remembered for all the bad things and none of the good things.

    This is no one's fault but his own.

    True.
    Never the less we are all happy that a majority liberal govt is in power.
    definitely not all ...

    would have preferred a minority
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^this ... I don't understand the infatuation some people have with Trudeau, so far he really has only demonstrated that he knows how to spend other people's money quite well, like his old man.

    I get that his personality is quite the opposite of Harper and he comes across as likeable for sure. Saying that I am willing to wait and see and give him a chance to govern...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    And for anyone waiting for electoral reform. Unless your a liberal supporter you'll end up disappointed...unless its proportional representation you'll be disappointed, and we don't need a committee to study electoral reform...from my understanding proportional representation is in place in other countries, so why not just introduce proportional representation legislation for the next election? Or will the electoral reform benefit the liberals more? We will see...

    And I'll maintain that any electoral reform needs to go to a referendum and needs to include referendums...or Canada will continue to be a fake democracy.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited May 2016
    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    And maybe that's a good thing
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    And maybe that's a good thing
    No, it's not. I don't understand why anyone would think nothing getting done by the government is a good thing.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    And maybe that's a good thing
    No, it's not. I don't understand why anyone would think nothing getting done by the government is a good thing.
    Thats because I absolutely 100% do not trust the government...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    And maybe that's a good thing
    No, it's not. I don't understand why anyone would think nothing getting done by the government is a good thing.
    Thats because I absolutely 100% do not trust the government...
    Okay, but there still has to be one that does stuff, if you want to live in a developed society and see positive progress. Nothing getting done under a minority government usually means that nothing good is getting done, not that nothing bad is getting done.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    And maybe that's a good thing
    No, it's not. I don't understand why anyone would think nothing getting done by the government is a good thing.
    Thats because I absolutely 100% do not trust the government...
    Okay, but there still has to be one that does stuff, if you want to live in a developed society and see positive progress. Nothing getting done under a minority government usually means that nothing good is getting done, not that nothing bad is getting done.
    I'll agree that we do need a government to get things done .... democratically ... not this fake democracy we have.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    And why do we need a disproportional amount of politicians for the relatively small population? You'd think with increased technology they could eliminate some of these politicians and bureaucrats? And why can't they be part-time?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    It kept Harper in check for 5 years and shit still got done just not one parties priorities. They had to work together and compromise(not just the cons but all the parties). Was the best 5 years of politics. With the exception of everyone trying everything the could to cause an election so they could try to claw their way to the top. Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2016
    northerndragon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    Not really.
    We have a majority govt right now and no one is complaining about not being represented fairly.
    Especially the NDPers that need anybody and anyone to guide them.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    northerndragon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    Not really.
    We have a majority govt right now and no one is complaining about not being represented fairly.
    Especially the NDPers that need anybody and anyone to guide them.
    You can't really be that dense, oh wait.....
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2016
    ^^^
    Why is it not right to say now that as a country with a majority govt we are all happy?
    Clearly our country has what we wanted.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    northerndragon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    Not really.
    We have a majority govt right now and no one is complaining about not being represented fairly.
    Especially the NDPers that need anybody and anyone to guide them.
    The Liberals are not even a year into their mandate ... oh and spending (bribing) folks to the tune of 23 billion (tax free I believe) a year of their own money keeps the the voters at bay for a while, not forever though ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Why is it not right to say now that as a country with a majority govt we are all happy?
    Clearly our country has what we wanted.


    You do realize that the liberals only got 39% of the vote in the last election?? The cons and ndp combined received over 50% ... thats why people want proportional representation.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Yes.
    Liberals want proportional representation only when they are the opposition.
    We have a majority govt that Canada loves.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited May 2016
    northerndragon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    It kept Harper in check for 5 years and shit still got done just not one parties priorities. They had to work together and compromise(not just the cons but all the parties). Was the best 5 years of politics. With the exception of everyone trying everything the could to cause an election so they could try to claw their way to the top. Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    You think the last 5 years under Harper was the best 5 years of politics????? I am really surprised to see you say that. I could not possibly disagree more. The only shit that got done was pretty bad shit, plus a bunch of scandals.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    to bad they d
    PJ_Soul said:

    northerndragon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't think that a minoroty government is a good thing. It tends to really prevent shit from getting done.

    It kept Harper in check for 5 years and shit still got done just not one parties priorities. They had to work together and compromise(not just the cons but all the parties). Was the best 5 years of politics. With the exception of everyone trying everything the could to cause an election so they could try to claw their way to the top. Minority governments are the closest you will ever get to fair representation.
    You think the last 5 years under Harper was the best 5 years of politics????? I am really surprised to see you say that. I could not possibly disagree more. The only shit that got done was pretty bad shit, plus a bunch of scandals.
    I think the poster meant the 5 years that Harper was in minority at the beginning of his mandate...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon

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