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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Neither do I.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I assume you don't have travel plans to the show and thus don't care. Yet the fans that have spent money, taken PTO, made travel arrangements 6 months in advance and don't like the bill are the ones being punished.

    I'm making substantial travel and financial arrangements to see PJ this spring (not NC) and I would be pissed if PJ made such an ill thought out decision.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Free said:



    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
    Bruce's balls have gotten bigger with age, PJ's balls appear to have waded into a cold pool.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I assume you don't have travel plans to the show and thus don't care. Yet the fans that have spent money, taken PTO, made travel arrangements 6 months in advance and don't like the bill are the ones being punished.

    I'm making substantial travel and financial arrangements to see PJ this spring (not NC) and I would be pissed if PJ made such an ill thought out decision.
    People are having their rights taken away, not getting to go to a concert is hardly comparable.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    dignin said:

    Free said:



    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
    Bruce's balls have gotten bigger with age, PJ's balls appear to have waded into a cold pool.
    dignin said:

    Free said:



    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
    Bruce's balls have gotten bigger with age, PJ's balls appear to have waded into a cold pool.
    Can't help but agree with this. I would like Vedder to prove us wrong,
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited April 2016
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I assume you don't have travel plans to the show and thus don't care. Yet the fans that have spent money, taken PTO, made travel arrangements 6 months in advance and don't like the bill are the ones being punished.

    I'm making substantial travel and financial arrangements to see PJ this spring (not NC) and I would be pissed if PJ made such an ill thought out decision.
    I bet ticket holders would get refunded. As far as air fare? Well, how many of Bruce's fans go on the road for tour? I doubt it's anything like PJ fans. He's hurting NC fans, and the state of NC.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I assume you don't have travel plans to the show and thus don't care. Yet the fans that have spent money, taken PTO, made travel arrangements 6 months in advance and don't like the bill are the ones being punished.

    I'm making substantial travel and financial arrangements to see PJ this spring (not NC) and I would be pissed if PJ made such an ill thought out decision.
    I bet ticket holders would get refunded. As far as air fare? Well, how many of Bruce's fans go on the road for tour? I doubt it's anything like PJ fans. He's hurting NC fans, and the state of NC.
    I believe Bruce fans are more fanatical then PJ fans.

    But in retrospect, having the choice to poop in a women's or men's restroom is the perfect battle for the ultra left and ultra right to engage in.

    Game on. I'm out.
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    Party On, Dudes!
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    This isn't about a concert it's about the toilet that NC and MS are choosing to live in. If the artists don't stand up for what's right, (and other states of course), who WILL??
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    http://www.nme.com/news/bruce-springsteen/92848

    Springsteen posted a statement to his website confirming the cancellation today (April 8), slamming North Carolina's approach to human rights.



    The statement reads:



    "As you, my fans, know I’m scheduled to play in Greensboro, North Carolina this Sunday. As we also know, North Carolina has just passed HB2, which the media are referring to as the “bathroom” law. HB2 — known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act — dictates which bathrooms transgender people are permitted to use. Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace."



    "No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden. To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress. Right now, there are many groups, businesses, and individuals in North Carolina working to oppose and overcome these negative developments."

    "Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters," he continues. "As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th. Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards."



    It concludes: "Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band’s Sunday April 10th show is canceled. Tickets will be refunded at point of purchase."
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I assume you don't have travel plans to the show and thus don't care. Yet the fans that have spent money, taken PTO, made travel arrangements 6 months in advance and don't like the bill are the ones being punished.

    I'm making substantial travel and financial arrangements to see PJ this spring (not NC) and I would be pissed if PJ made such an ill thought out decision.
    Selfish much?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Bands do charity and awareness concerts all the time and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT!

    If you think playing and going on a little rant has the same effect as cancelling you are delusional!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    And for the record, if you travel to see a band and your idea of vacation is hotels, bars, and restaurants, yeah you will be pretty disappointed when they cancel because you planned a lame ass sad vacation lol
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    rgambs said:

    Bands do charity and awareness concerts all the time and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT!

    If you think playing and going on a little rant has the same effect as cancelling you are delusional!

    Do u think anyone that supports the bill gives a shit if Bruce cancels? That is delusional thinking.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Bands do charity and awareness concerts all the time and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT!

    If you think playing and going on a little rant has the same effect as cancelling you are delusional!

    Do u think anyone that supports the bill gives a shit if Bruce cancels? That is delusional thinking.
    Oh, so you think that boycotts don't work? Ok, then, do nothing and let misfortune wash over you like the bitter brew you seem to prefer.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Bruce is making a stance and I like it.

    But the people planning on attending the show have a right to be disappointed- especially those with big plans.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    rgambs said:

    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Bands do charity and awareness concerts all the time and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT!

    If you think playing and going on a little rant has the same effect as cancelling you are delusional!

    Do u think anyone that supports the bill gives a shit if Bruce cancels? That is delusional thinking.
    Oh, so you think that boycotts don't work? Ok, then, do nothing and let misfortune wash over you like the bitter brew you seem to prefer.
    Boycotts for single events for this low of magnitude do not work. Should a pro team to boycott, yeah that may work. Bruce has the luxury that he is a multi millionaire. The blue collar person working OT (1,2,3,4!) that just got screwed has no such luxury.

    I don't support this bill. But I don't support illogical rational either. Again, those being punished are people that are against the bill of restrooms.

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    Party On, Dudes!

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