North Carolina passes bill blocking LGBT protections

Bentleyspop

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

You make a lot of sense rgamnbs. But when it comes to people who think that being gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever is a choice or an idea, you are just beating your head against a wall.

My brothers (yup I have 2 gay brothers) didn't wake up when day, or read a book, or follow a friends suggestion and decide to become gay. They were born that way.

My best friend and climbing partner, a man who holds my life in his hands on a regular basis, didn't see it on TV or in a movie and decide that being gay was cool. He was born that way.

A good friend of mine has a trans son. He didn't, and no one ever has, made a choice to be trans. He was born that way.

Namaste'

https://youtu.be/5iTnWtc9ZcA

rgambs

Bentleyspop said:

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

You make a lot of sense rgamnbs. But when it comes to people who think that being gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever is a choice or an idea, you are just beating your head against a wall.

My brothers (yup I have 2 gay brothers) didn't wake up when day, or read a book, or follow a friends suggestion and decide to become gay. They were born that way.

My best friend and climbing partner, a man who holds my life in his hands on a regular basis, didn't see it on TV or in a movie and decide that being gay was cool. He was born that way.

A good friend of mine has a trans son. He didn't, and no one ever has, made a choice to be trans. He was born that way.

Namaste'

https://youtu.be/5iTnWtc9ZcA

You ever do any climbing in the east? I used to fiddle around the walls at Seneca Rocks and the endless wall at the New River Gorge, and I bouldered a bit at Grayson Highlands. I haven't done any technical climbing in like 10 years at least.

Bentleyspop

rgambs said:

Bentleyspop said:

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

You make a lot of sense rgamnbs. But when it comes to people who think that being gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever is a choice or an idea, you are just beating your head against a wall.

My brothers (yup I have 2 gay brothers) didn't wake up when day, or read a book, or follow a friends suggestion and decide to become gay. They were born that way.

My best friend and climbing partner, a man who holds my life in his hands on a regular basis, didn't see it on TV or in a movie and decide that being gay was cool. He was born that way.

A good friend of mine has a trans son. He didn't, and no one ever has, made a choice to be trans. He was born that way.

Namaste'

https://youtu.be/5iTnWtc9ZcA

You ever do any climbing in the east? I used to fiddle around the walls at Seneca Rocks and the endless wall at the New River Gorge, and I bouldered a bit at Grayson Highlands. I haven't done any technical climbing in like 10 years at least.

I grew up climbing at Great Falls (MD/VA). Did some climbing at Seneca. And New River when I lived in Charlottesville.
Now I climb at my local climbing areas....Boulder Canyon, El Dorado state Park, North Table Mesa (Golden), etc. With the occasional winter trip down to Ouray for some ice climbing. Though with age and injuries I'm climbing less outdoors and more on indoor walls.

g under p

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

I believe someone here one is beating their head against a wall and I now find that to be true. Clearly it appears you fail to understand that a person being gay starts from their origin or in other words from birth. Their are some who may question whether they're or not as they grow into adulthood but as they do it becomes clear they were ALWAYS this way. It's never something of an *idea* a *thought* they choose to do it's something that they were born with. That *idea* of yours that someone can choose to be gay is something that can be easily be manipulated by various means in today's society. Whereas the idea/thought process of being gay usually cannot be swayed, it's there from their birth.

I personally have witnessed two of these instances one from birth and the other later in the child's life. The first came when the child knew from the third grade (that child is now 20) became surprised I wasn't shocked when she told me earlier this year. I just told her its ok I knew long ago. The second he is also 20 whom I first met when he was 9 then helped him along the way in any way I could into being an adult. Both are doing fine studying in college learning and treasuring this life.

Peace

oftenreading

Bentleyspop said:

rgambs said:

Bentleyspop said:

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

You make a lot of sense rgamnbs. But when it comes to people who think that being gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever is a choice or an idea, you are just beating your head against a wall.

My brothers (yup I have 2 gay brothers) didn't wake up when day, or read a book, or follow a friends suggestion and decide to become gay. They were born that way.

My best friend and climbing partner, a man who holds my life in his hands on a regular basis, didn't see it on TV or in a movie and decide that being gay was cool. He was born that way.

A good friend of mine has a trans son. He didn't, and no one ever has, made a choice to be trans. He was born that way.

Namaste'

https://youtu.be/5iTnWtc9ZcA

You ever do any climbing in the east? I used to fiddle around the walls at Seneca Rocks and the endless wall at the New River Gorge, and I bouldered a bit at Grayson Highlands. I haven't done any technical climbing in like 10 years at least.

I grew up climbing at Great Falls (MD/VA). Did some climbing at Seneca. And New River when I lived in Charlottesville.
Now I climb at my local climbing areas....Boulder Canyon, El Dorado state Park, North Table Mesa (Golden), etc. With the occasional winter trip down to Ouray for some ice climbing. Though with age and injuries I'm climbing less outdoors and more on indoor walls.

Cool to hear that both of you are climbers. I got into climbing in a big way this year, though all indoors for now. Started with joining a climbing group in February, did my lead climbing course in September, and now I climb at least twice a week - ropes on Mondays and boundering on Wednesdays. Next summer I want to get outside but for now I'm building my strength and skills.

HughFreakingDillon

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

some "seem to be gay at their origin"? have you been conducting a 30 year observational study of a controlled group of homosexuals or something? how do you discern between those who are legitimately gay and just play acting gay?

I can guess that you, like many people who claim that homosexuality is unnatural, have seen and, dare I say, possibly enjoyed some adult films that include the intimacy of two women? if yes, you are a hypocrite. if no, you are a liar. choose one.

what about the "gay idea" (I can't believe I just fucking typed that) do you need to "support"? no gay person is looking for your support of their "gay idea". that implies your permission is required for them to be gay. which in and of itself is disgusting.

MeanMr.Mustard

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

not true, I'm not a liberal.

MeanMr.Mustard

HughFreakingDillon said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

some "seem to be gay at their origin"? have you been conducting a 30 year observational study of a controlled group of homosexuals or something? how do you discern between those who are legitimately gay and just play acting gay?

I can guess that you, like many people who claim that homosexuality is unnatural, have seen and, dare I say, possibly enjoyed some adult films that include the intimacy of two women? if yes, you are a hypocrite. if no, you are a liar. choose one.

what about the "gay idea" (I can't believe I just fucking typed that) do you need to "support"? no gay person is looking for your support of their "gay idea". that implies your permission is required for them to be gay. which in and of itself is disgusting.

easy bronco....you're running off on a tangent with no facts about me at all, it's your delusional opinion of who you think I am and how you feel about my on-line personality, you and others here are in shock that someone would believe differently than you...well I didn't it make this far in life taking the word of folks like you, and unlike you I have my own opinion and ideas and that just pisses you off to no end...you should try thinking for yourself instead of trying to fit into somebody else's world or idea's.

g under p

MeanMr.Mustard said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

some "seem to be gay at their origin"? have you been conducting a 30 year observational study of a controlled group of homosexuals or something? how do you discern between those who are legitimately gay and just play acting gay?

I can guess that you, like many people who claim that homosexuality is unnatural, have seen and, dare I say, possibly enjoyed some adult films that include the intimacy of two women? if yes, you are a hypocrite. if no, you are a liar. choose one.

what about the "gay idea" (I can't believe I just fucking typed that) do you need to "support"? no gay person is looking for your support of their "gay idea". that implies your permission is required for them to be gay. which in and of itself is disgusting.

easy bronco....you're running off on a tangent with no facts about me at all, it's your delusional opinion of who you think I am and how you feel about my on-line personality, you and others here are in shock that someone would believe differently than you...well I didn't it make this far in life taking the word of folks like you, and unlike you I have my own opinion and ideas and that just pisses you off to no end...you should try thinking for yourself instead of trying to fit into somebody else's world or idea's.

Actually, I believe he's quite to the point based on what you've written here and that's the very thing I've done as well. It is far from delusional if one will review the above posts you wrote...... from there one CAN form an opinion of posts written in this thread. HNY to you.

Peace

rgambs

MeanMr.Mustard said:

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

not true, I'm not a liberal.

Try to keep up.
I, as a liberal, don't care what 2 men do in their bedroom and I don't care if they get the same societal benefits as my wife and I, because it doesn't concern me.

You, as a hypocrite, speak about freedom and then curtail other people's freedom because you are more concerned with how you don't like what they do in their bedrooms than you are concerned with how it actually effects your life. Which obviously is, not at all.

HughFreakingDillon

MeanMr.Mustard said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

some "seem to be gay at their origin"? have you been conducting a 30 year observational study of a controlled group of homosexuals or something? how do you discern between those who are legitimately gay and just play acting gay?

I can guess that you, like many people who claim that homosexuality is unnatural, have seen and, dare I say, possibly enjoyed some adult films that include the intimacy of two women? if yes, you are a hypocrite. if no, you are a liar. choose one.

what about the "gay idea" (I can't believe I just fucking typed that) do you need to "support"? no gay person is looking for your support of their "gay idea". that implies your permission is required for them to be gay. which in and of itself is disgusting.

easy bronco....you're running off on a tangent with no facts about me at all, it's your delusional opinion of who you think I am and how you feel about my on-line personality, you and others here are in shock that someone would believe differently than you...well I didn't it make this far in life taking the word of folks like you, and unlike you I have my own opinion and ideas and that just pisses you off to no end...you should try thinking for yourself instead of trying to fit into somebody else's world or idea's.

why don't you try refuting/responding to what I said instead of this nonsensical blather? right. you can't. none of what you said here applies to me and you know it.

don't take the word of folks like me. please, don't.

read and learn (my apologies for the lack of Fox news content):

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/10443/20141118/homosexuality-genetic-strongest-evidence.htm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/largest-ever-study-into-the-gay-gene-erodes-the-notion-that-sexual-orientation-is-a-choice-9875855.html

HughFreakingDillon

MeanMr.Mustard said:

rgambs said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

The difference is that your ideas are worried about what everyone else should be doing, instead of focusing on yourself.

not true, I'm not a liberal.

this post is so incredibly telling about the person behind these comments. you don't even know what it means.

Gern Blansten

MeanMr.Mustard said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

g under p said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

JimmyV said:

We've had gay marriage in my state going on 13 years. It has had zero impact on the life of every straight person I know. There is no greater waste of time than protesting it. If you are opposed to gay marriage my advice would be to not enter into a homosexual relationship. That way you won't be in any danger of falling victim to one.

when you say "zero impact" what exactly do you mean has or has not been impacted on these individual's ? their personal belief's ? their physical well being ? and yes you can bet I will never enter an un-natural relationship
and you mentioned the phrase "falling victim to a gay relationship"...is it possible that people who enter into a gay relationships suffer some kind of mental disorder ? or suffered some kind of emotional tragedy before entering into a gay relationship ?

A person does not suffer a mental disorder nor some kind of emotional tragedy to become gay. It's something that begins at their origin when a person very young, it's not a choice. Did you choose to be straight or did I choose to a heterosexual.....It just was and I don't search for causes or reasons as to why one IS this way of life or another.

How would you react if it came to be a close member of your family happened to gay? Would you ostracize them or would you embrace them?

Peace

I would agree that some seem to be gay at their origin as you say but I also believe for many more it's a choice.
if a family member was gay I would still love them as family but I would not support the gay idea, I'm sure that would
cause problems between us but I feel as strongly about my ideas as anybody else does about theirs.

some "seem to be gay at their origin"? have you been conducting a 30 year observational study of a controlled group of homosexuals or something? how do you discern between those who are legitimately gay and just play acting gay?

I can guess that you, like many people who claim that homosexuality is unnatural, have seen and, dare I say, possibly enjoyed some adult films that include the intimacy of two women? if yes, you are a hypocrite. if no, you are a liar. choose one.

what about the "gay idea" (I can't believe I just fucking typed that) do you need to "support"? no gay person is looking for your support of their "gay idea". that implies your permission is required for them to be gay. which in and of itself is disgusting.

easy bronco....you're running off on a tangent with no facts about me at all, it's your delusional opinion of who you think I am and how you feel about my on-line personality, you and others here are in shock that someone would believe differently than you...well I didn't it make this far in life taking the word of folks like you, and unlike you I have my own opinion and ideas and that just pisses you off to no end...you should try thinking for yourself instead of trying to fit into somebody else's world or idea's.

I don't think it pisses anyone off that you have your own ideas. It's that those ideas are really messed up.

Bentleyspop

This is very interesting and illuminating.....

Dr. James O’Keefe MD recently gave a TEDx Talk in Dublin, Ireland about how evolutionary science can explain the persistence of homosexuality throughout time. According to O’Keefe, homosexuality continues to show up as a sexual minority throughout time and history because gay men and women are essential to the survival of the human race.

https://youtu.be/4Khn_z9FPmU

HughFreakingDillon

Bentleyspop said:

This is very interesting and illuminating.....

Dr. James O’Keefe MD recently gave a TEDx Talk in Dublin, Ireland about how evolutionary science can explain the persistence of homosexuality throughout time. According to O’Keefe, homosexuality continues to show up as a sexual minority throughout time and history because gay men and women are essential to the survival of the human race.

https://youtu.be/4Khn_z9FPmU

going to check this out if it shows up on apple tv.

mace1229

A science camp for schools had male counselors who identity as they/them share cabins with 5th grade girls. Which, according to at least one parent, included the restroom and shower room. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=qbizkjpN_QQ

Seems to be taking the bathroom choice too far in my opinion.