2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates
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Hillary is a liar who has put countless lives at risk and is not qualified to be President.Post edited by usamamasan1 on0 -
The intelligence community has deemed some of Hillary Clinton’s emails “too damaging" to national security to release under any circumstances, according to a U.S. government official close to the ongoing review. A second source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, backed up the finding. The determination was first reported by Fox News, hours before the State Department formally announced Friday that seven email chains, found in 22 documents, will be withheld “in full” because they, in fact, contain “Top Secret” information...the Obama administration confirmed to the Associated Press that the seven email chains would be withheld. The department has since confirmed those details publicly. The decision to withhold the documents in full, and not provide even a partial release with redactions, further undercuts claims by the State Department and the Clinton campaign that none of the intelligence in the emails was classified when it hit Clinton's personal server. Fox News is told the emails include intelligence from "special access programs," or SAP, which is considered beyond “Top Secret.”0
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She is more than qualified to be President. Her being a liar or putting countless lives at risk is neither here nor there... if history is any reflection, that might actually make her MORE qualified.usamamasan1 said:
Hillary is a liar who has put countless lives at risk and is not qualified to be President.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ,if you could ,would you vote for Hillary?PJ_Soul said:
She is more than qualified to be President. Her being a liar or putting countless lives at risk is neither here nor there... if history is any reflection, that might actually make her MORE qualified.usamamasan1 said:
Hillary is a liar who has put countless lives at risk and is not qualified to be President.
My guess is yes. I don't think that's completely based on policy positions either.0 -
I would love for us to have a woman as president (and I guarantee it will happen) but one that would be more likely to leave a lasting positive legacy like Elizabeth warren or Jill Stein. My feeling is Hillary has too many marks against her that way already and we would be better off waiting for a lady to really knock it out of the park in terms of greatness.Kat said:My congratulations to Hillary for winning the Dem Iowa Caucus. It wasn't a huge win by any means but it was the first time in history that a woman has won. Progress!!
P.S. I like Bernie too but I'm all for Hillary."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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Hillary won't be POTUS because every public address will be overshadowed from at least one person from the media asking about her husbands indiscretion.0 -
Don't count on it. The average America either secretly or openly lavishes attention on any kind of sex-related scandals. It's part of our sexually up tight, sexually repressed nature. This is why Europeans, for example are comfortable with their bodies and Americans objectify their bodies.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Hillary won't be POTUS because every public address will be overshadowed from at least one person from the media asking about her husbands indiscretion."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Read today Bernie won 6 of 7 but didn't make that much of a difference.Jason P said:I read that Clinton got 6 delegates via a coin toss. She went 6 for 6.
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The general consensus is that Bernie did way better than anyone expected. The Bern will gather steam. Out with the old broken ways, in with the new!callen said:
Read today Bernie won 6 of 7 but didn't make that much of a difference.Jason P said:I read that Clinton got 6 delegates via a coin toss. She went 6 for 6.
I personally prefer having an indian leg wrestling contest to resolve vote counts."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
the more I learn about Hillary, the more I don't like. My wife was talking about how great it would be to have a female president. I said it would be nice to have a female president that wasn't in the same back pockets as many of her male counterparts seem to be.
don't vote for a woman for the sake of it being a woman. vote for a woman because she'll make a difference.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I'm of the opinion that whoever is running against the GOP will be better for all of us regardless of who it is.HughFreakingDillon said:the more I learn about Hillary, the more I don't like. My wife was talking about how great it would be to have a female president. I said it would be nice to have a female president that wasn't in the same back pockets as many of her male counterparts seem to be.
don't vote for a woman for the sake of it being a woman. vote for a woman because she'll make a difference.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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That's a low bar.Gern Blansten said:
I'm of the opinion that whoever is running against the GOP will be better for all of us regardless of who it is.HughFreakingDillon said:the more I learn about Hillary, the more I don't like. My wife was talking about how great it would be to have a female president. I said it would be nice to have a female president that wasn't in the same back pockets as many of her male counterparts seem to be.
don't vote for a woman for the sake of it being a woman. vote for a woman because she'll make a difference.0 -
This is the entire strategy of the DNC and the Clinton Campaign summed up in one sentence. And while you are 100% right, voters everywhere have good reason to be disappointed. The Democrats have failed us this time around.Gern Blansten said:
I'm of the opinion that whoever is running against the GOP will be better for all of us regardless of who it is.HughFreakingDillon said:the more I learn about Hillary, the more I don't like. My wife was talking about how great it would be to have a female president. I said it would be nice to have a female president that wasn't in the same back pockets as many of her male counterparts seem to be.
don't vote for a woman for the sake of it being a woman. vote for a woman because she'll make a difference.___________________________________________
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Your guess is yes? Why? Do you think I would vote for her just because she's a woman? That seems like a very unfounded assumption. Just because I'm a feminist it doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I believe in real equality (really rr, you don't seem to understand me very wellrr165892 said:
PJ,if you could ,would you vote for Hillary?PJ_Soul said:
She is more than qualified to be President. Her being a liar or putting countless lives at risk is neither here nor there... if history is any reflection, that might actually make her MORE qualified.usamamasan1 said:
Hillary is a liar who has put countless lives at risk and is not qualified to be President.
My guess is yes. I don't think that's completely based on policy positions either.). Hell no, I wouldn't vote for Hillary if I had another choice. I would 100% want Bernie Sanders to win the nomination. However, I would vote for her over any GOP candidate. Now because every single person running is a full-fledged loony toon or just fools at best. But generally, because there are some fundamental Republican policies that I am very much against.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm busting your chops PJ.PJ_Soul said:
Your guess is yes? Why? Do you think I would vote for her just because she's a woman? That seems like a very unfounded assumption. Just because I'm a feminist it doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I believe in real equality (really rr, you don't seem to understand me very wellrr165892 said:
PJ,if you could ,would you vote for Hillary?PJ_Soul said:
She is more than qualified to be President. Her being a liar or putting countless lives at risk is neither here nor there... if history is any reflection, that might actually make her MORE qualified.usamamasan1 said:
Hillary is a liar who has put countless lives at risk and is not qualified to be President.
My guess is yes. I don't think that's completely based on policy positions either.). Hell no, I wouldn't vote for Hillary if I had another choice. I would 100% want Bernie Sanders to win the nomination. However, I would vote for her over any GOP candidate. Now because every single person running is a full-fledged loony toon or just fools at best. But generally, because there are some fundamental Republican policies that I am very much against.
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sanders lost by a razor thin margin.
even though he did not win the state, the fact is that he made it that close and that the national media is now talking about him. that in and of itself could be called a win."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
For sure!gimmesometruth27 said:sanders lost by a razor thin margin.
even though he did not win the state, the fact is that he made it that close and that the national media is now talking about him. that in and of itself could be called a win."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
The "Sanders can't win!" argument has some merit because the terms "Socialist" and "Democratic Socialist" will scare the hell out of many voters. It will happen.
The problem Democrats and left-leaning independents face is that the Democratic Socialist guy is the only alternative left to a career politician with a history of scandal and who is currently under investigation by the FBI. Not some bogus and partison Congressional committee, but the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Barack Obama's justice system.
Hard to argue that this current FBI is part of the "Vast Right-wing Conspiracy." That the Democratic Establishment want voters to ignore their hand chosen and longtime presumptive frontrunner being under federal investigation is a bridge too far.
Bernie Sanders can't win. Hillary Clinton shouldn't win. And together they represent our only alternative to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, etc.
Worst election cycle I have ever seen and we have miles to go before anyone sleeps.Post edited by JimmyV on___________________________________________
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Have had these same thoughts.JimmyV said:The "Sanders can't win!" argument has some merit because the terms "Socialist" and "Democratic Socialist" will scare the hell out of many voters. It will happen.
The problem Democrats and left-leaning independents face is that the Democratic Socialist guy is the only alternative left to a career politician with a history of scandal and who is currently under investigation by the FBI. Not some bogus and partison Congressional committee, but the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Barack Obama's justice system.
Hard to argue that this current FBI is part of the "Vast Right-wing Conspiracy." That the Democratic Establishment want voters to ignore their hand chosen and longtime presumptive frontrunner being under federal investigation is a bridge too far.
Bernie Sanders can't win. Hillary Clinton shouldn't win. And together they represent our only alternative to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, etc.
Worst election cycle I have ever seen and we have miles to go before anyone sleeps.
My biggest fear, Cruz and Bernie left after dust settles.
Then Cruz winning. It's a very real possibility.
Just hope if Hillary is indicted it happens soon. Maybe Bloomberg does enter. Yeah I know many don't like but sure as hell better than "President Cruz".
I shudder as I write this.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
I think the GOP going to start backing Rubio as we speak ... or in this case, post. No one likes Cruz. But I do think Cruz is the smartest and most shrewd candidate. He was considered a long shot in the Texas senate race and won. I think he understands the game better then any other candidate.callen said:
Have had these same thoughts.JimmyV said:The "Sanders can't win!" argument has some merit because the terms "Socialist" and "Democratic Socialist" will scare the hell out of many voters. It will happen.
The problem Democrats and left-leaning independents face is that the Democratic Socialist guy is the only alternative left to a career politician with a history of scandal and who is currently under investigation by the FBI. Not some bogus and partison Congressional committee, but the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Barack Obama's justice system.
Hard to argue that this current FBI is part of the "Vast Right-wing Conspiracy." That the Democratic Establishment want voters to ignore their hand chosen and longtime presumptive frontrunner being under federal investigation is a bridge too far.
Bernie Sanders can't win. Hillary Clinton shouldn't win. And together they represent our only alternative to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, etc.
Worst election cycle I have ever seen and we have miles to go before anyone sleeps.
My biggest fear, Cruz and Bernie left after dust settles.
Then Cruz winning. It's a very real possibility.
Just hope if Hillary is indicted it happens soon. Maybe Bloomberg does enter. Yeah I know many don't like but sure as hell better than "President Cruz".
I shudder as I write this.
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