2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates

JC29856

Free said:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/superdelegates-might-not-save-hillary-clinton/

Superdelegates Might Not Save Hillary Clinton

If you look at a Democratic delegate tracker like this one from The New York Times, you’ll find that Hillary Clinton has a massive 394-44 delegate lead over Bernie Sanders so far, despite having been walloped by Sanders in New Hampshire and only essentially having tied him in Iowa. While Sanders does have a modest 36-32 lead among elected delegates — those that are bound to the candidates based on the results of voting in primaries and caucuses — Clinton leads 362-8 among superdelegates, who are Democratic elected officials and other party insiders allowed to support whichever candidate they like.

If you’re a Sanders supporter, you might think this seems profoundly unfair. And you’d be right: It’s profoundly unfair. Superdelegates were created in part to give Democratic party elites the opportunity to put their finger on the scale and prevent nominations like those of George McGovern in 1972 or Jimmy Carter in 1976, which displeased party insiders.

Here’s the consolation, however. Unlike elected delegates, superdelegates are unbound to any candidate even on the first ballot. They can switch whenever they like, and some of them probably will switch to Sanders if he extends his winning streak into more diverse states and eventually appears to have more of a mandate than Clinton among Democratic voters.

Clinton knows this all too well; it’s exactly what happened to her in 2008 during her loss to Barack Obama. According to the website Democratic Convention Watch,1 Clinton began with a substantial advantage in superdelegates, leading Obama 154 to 50 when New Hampshire voted on Jan. 8, 2008. Obama narrowed his deficit in February and March, however, and overtook Clinton in superdelegates in mid-May. By the time Clinton ended her campaign on June 7, 2008, Obama had nearly a 2-to-1 superdelegate advantage over her.

Hogwash

JC29856

Hillary is doing her life.

JimmyV

That was a stirring standing ovation for Bernie's closing statement.

brianlux

JimmyV said:

That was a stirring standing ovation for Bernie's closing statement.

Yeah! I missed it due to work but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayf50mNXIpg

JC29856

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ckravitz

JC29856 said:

Anyone gaining a understanding of "democracy"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511421295

I can't imagine anything like that happening in Chicago! Haha.

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

That was a stirring standing ovation for Bernie's closing statement.

Yeah! I missed it due to work but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayf50mNXIpg

Clinton came off like kind of a bitch at the end of his statement. The smirking and laughing at the crowd's reaction came off as really smug. She shouldn't act like that after someone says the shit he just said. Makes her look really bad.

JC29856

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

That was a stirring standing ovation for Bernie's closing statement.

Yeah! I missed it due to work but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayf50mNXIpg

Clinton came off like kind of a bitch at the end of his statement. The smirking and laughing at the crowd's reaction came off as really smug. She shouldn't act like that after someone says the shit he just said. Makes her look really bad.

Looking bad....her resume and self service speaks for itself!

JimmyV

She was embarrassed. He clearly got the better reaction.

Gern Blansten

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

That was a stirring standing ovation for Bernie's closing statement.

Yeah! I missed it due to work but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayf50mNXIpg

Clinton came off like kind of a bitch at the end of his statement. The smirking and laughing at the crowd's reaction came off as really smug. She shouldn't act like that after someone says the shit he just said. Makes her look really bad.

Disagree...no smugness, just a reaction

Free

Some people laugh as a nervous reaction when cornered (my dad does this). Perhaps that's why she laughed, how else do you respond to That?!

PJ_Soul

Free said:

Some people laugh as a nervous reaction when cornered (my dad does this). Perhaps that's why she laughed, how else do you respond to That?!

I dunno, just be normal? Stand there and let Bernie have his moment instead of laughing out loud?
But sorry, didn't actually think my little comment would get so much reaction - I meant it just as an aside, lol. I'm actually not a big Clinton hater. I think she gets way more criticism than she deserves for the most part. I just didn't like how she laughed after Bernie's speech and about the crowd. Rubbed me the wrong way, and yeah, I do think she was laughing AT the strength of the crowd's reaction, not nervously laughing. She wouldn't get nervous about that - she's a seasoned politician at this point; she's got complete control over her public reactions.

Free

Maybe she laughed wondering why she doesn't get standing ovations and cheering like that for her! In spite of herself.

Who knows, who cares.