2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,298
    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834




    No offense, Cincy, and I know you speak honestly so I won't say "Really?!" but it's hard to wrap my head around the idea that Sanders is as far off the grid of rationality as Trump.

    He's the anti-everything with the establishment of his own party candidate. And he has big ideas with no real, achievable plan to make them reality. Now, he mostly comes at it from a much better place then Trump does who is only interested in his ego. But neither are good presidential material, of course, we keep lower expectations of that so I could be wrong.
    Disagree. Comparing him to Trump is way off.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-populism_us_56a1541de4b076aadcc5e35b

    Funny enough I didn't see this before my comment, but it's what I'm trying to say.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    But I can see how you think it's not a good comparison overall. I understand your point and agree there.
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

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    Really? I just read an article that said if Sanders gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Ok, it was a HuffPost blog but good points were made, especially of his politics being closely tied to Teddy Roosevelt and FDR.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-will-win-the-democratic-nomination-and-presidency-in-a-landslide_b_8968048.html
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

    image

    Disagree...it would just give Sanders the opportunity to tell the people what his positions are. Once they see that they agree with him he'll destroy Trump. Especially if he picks Warren for VP
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

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    But Jason, Bernie never called himself the "s" word, he called himself a democratic socialist. And if we Americans are too stupid and lazy to learn the difference we deserve Trump or Palin or some other blithering idiot. But I don't think that will happen.

    Besides, until we find a candidate that puts environment above all other concerns we are screwed as a civilization and very possibly as a species. This is not hyperbole.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

    image

    Disagree...it would just give Sanders the opportunity to tell the people what his positions are. Once they see that they agree with him he'll destroy Trump. Especially if he picks Warren for VP
    Gern,your dreaming.Jason is right.If the left has any shot it with Hillary.Sanders will not gain ground outside of the far left cocoon he has been in during the pre primary race.When scrutinized I don't think his agenda will fly with the majority.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    rr165892 said:

    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

    image

    Disagree...it would just give Sanders the opportunity to tell the people what his positions are. Once they see that they agree with him he'll destroy Trump. Especially if he picks Warren for VP
    Gern,your dreaming.Jason is right.If the left has any shot it with Hillary.Sanders will not gain ground outside of the far left cocoon he has been in during the pre primary race.When scrutinized I don't think his agenda will fly with the majority.
    Disagree. His agenda fits with the middle class. If Obama won Sanders can win.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    rr165892 said:

    Jason P said:

    I believe the Democratic nomination will decide the presidency. Clinton wins and she is POTUS because she is up against a bunch of clowns. Bernie wins and the GOP wins no matter who they nominate.

    Bernie hung himself the day he called himself the "S" word. The GOP must have their fingers crossed that he wins so they can start running ads like this ...

    image

    Disagree...it would just give Sanders the opportunity to tell the people what his positions are. Once they see that they agree with him he'll destroy Trump. Especially if he picks Warren for VP
    Gern,your dreaming.Jason is right.If the left has any shot it with Hillary.Sanders will not gain ground outside of the far left cocoon he has been in during the pre primary race.When scrutinized I don't think his agenda will fly with the majority.
    Disagree. His agenda fits with the middle class. If Obama won Sanders can win.
    I agree. The more people understand what Sanders is really about, the more they understand he is really not some far left radical nutcase. Things will continue in this direction over the coming months.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    I think Bernie has a chance to win. But not because he speaks for the middle class. Because people are pissed at the status quo.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013

    I think Bernie has a chance to win. But not because he speaks for the middle class. Because people are pissed at the status quo.

    You can also say The same thing about The Don in his quest to make America Great again.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    muskydan said:

    I think Bernie has a chance to win. But not because he speaks for the middle class. Because people are pissed at the status quo.

    You can also say The same thing about The Don in his quest to make America Great again.
    I agree, you can.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    I think Bernie has a chance to win. But not because he speaks for the middle class. Because people are pissed at the status quo.

    To be honest, Bernie is not my ideal candidate. But one of the biggest things he has going for him is his desire to take politics back out of the hands of corporate control which is and has been the status quo for some time. Once we do that, then we have a chance of actually electing a closer-to-ideal candidate. Why, what they hay, I might even run if that happens!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    MSNBC and the Manchester Union Leader are going rogue and scheduling their own debate for February 4. Right after Iowa and right before New Hampshire votes. Good for them. The DNC has underserved the American electorate this time around.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Jason P and RR, I don't think you understand people under 35. We have absolutely zero connection to the McCarthyism PTSD that you guys suffer from.
    We aren't afraid of the big bad S word, and since we actually have access to the history that was "whitewashed" by earlier generations (through the internet and folks like Zinn) we can see the reality of what made this country strong. All the protections that we the people have originated in, and are products of, the ideas behind democratic socialism.
    Go live in Flint if you think America will be great again under an ubercapitalist.
    I prefer clean water, air, and food over money and lower taxes. The decision will always come down to humans or profits, and Most of us stand with humans, which means the S word isn't so dirty to us.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,298
    rgambs said:

    Jason P and RR, I don't think you understand people under 35. We have absolutely zero connection to the McCarthyism PTSD that you guys suffer from.
    We aren't afraid of the big bad S word, and since we actually have access to the history that was "whitewashed" by earlier generations (through the internet and folks like Zinn) we can see the reality of what made this country strong. All the protections that we the people have originated in, and are products of, the ideas behind democratic socialism.
    Go live in Flint if you think America will be great again under an ubercapitalist.
    I prefer clean water, air, and food over money and lower taxes. The decision will always come down to humans or profits, and Most of us stand with humans, which means the S word isn't so dirty to us.

    People under 35 are not going to be able to win him POTUS. Check out the following interactive map link. I think Sanders would lose NV, IA, WI, OH, NC and FL to a GOP candidate and that loses the overall election.

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Jason P and RR, I don't think you understand people under 35. We have absolutely zero connection to the McCarthyism PTSD that you guys suffer from.
    We aren't afraid of the big bad S word, and since we actually have access to the history that was "whitewashed" by earlier generations (through the internet and folks like Zinn) we can see the reality of what made this country strong. All the protections that we the people have originated in, and are products of, the ideas behind democratic socialism.
    Go live in Flint if you think America will be great again under an ubercapitalist.
    I prefer clean water, air, and food over money and lower taxes. The decision will always come down to humans or profits, and Most of us stand with humans, which means the S word isn't so dirty to us.

    People under 35 are not going to be able to win him POTUS. Check out the following interactive map link. I think Sanders would lose NV, IA, WI, OH, NC and FL to a GOP candidate and that loses the overall election.

    270towin.com/
    Youngins and minorities would carry him through.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited January 2016
    rgambs said:

    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Jason P and RR, I don't think you understand people under 35. We have absolutely zero connection to the McCarthyism PTSD that you guys suffer from.
    We aren't afraid of the big bad S word, and since we actually have access to the history that was "whitewashed" by earlier generations (through the internet and folks like Zinn) we can see the reality of what made this country strong. All the protections that we the people have originated in, and are products of, the ideas behind democratic socialism.
    Go live in Flint if you think America will be great again under an ubercapitalist.
    I prefer clean water, air, and food over money and lower taxes. The decision will always come down to humans or profits, and Most of us stand with humans, which means the S word isn't so dirty to us.

    People under 35 are not going to be able to win him POTUS. Check out the following interactive map link. I think Sanders would lose NV, IA, WI, OH, NC and FL to a GOP candidate and that loses the overall election.

    270towin.com/
    Youngins and minorities would carry him through.
    Yes, and there will be a strong push to get the young and minorities out to vote.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,298
    rgambs said:

    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Jason P and RR, I don't think you understand people under 35. We have absolutely zero connection to the McCarthyism PTSD that you guys suffer from.
    We aren't afraid of the big bad S word, and since we actually have access to the history that was "whitewashed" by earlier generations (through the internet and folks like Zinn) we can see the reality of what made this country strong. All the protections that we the people have originated in, and are products of, the ideas behind democratic socialism.
    Go live in Flint if you think America will be great again under an ubercapitalist.
    I prefer clean water, air, and food over money and lower taxes. The decision will always come down to humans or profits, and Most of us stand with humans, which means the S word isn't so dirty to us.

    People under 35 are not going to be able to win him POTUS. Check out the following interactive map link. I think Sanders would lose NV, IA, WI, OH, NC and FL to a GOP candidate and that loses the overall election.

    270towin.com/
    Youngins and minorities would carry him through.
    There are more old people and less minorities in the states I listed. A socialist who wants to raise taxes won't win those states.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Pipe dream Gambsy.Come back down to earth.You have been drinking the utopian kool aid.
    Jason is correct.
    Kids are not going to pull sanders thru.My kids are20,22,24.
    2 are republican by choice and one is like me an Independent.The young kids I know not just mine would all be for reform of student debt as a main issue but they are still all budding young capitalists.They are hard working forward thinking young adults.who want to make money and not share it with those who may not have the same drive and ambition.Dont work as hard or skate by with money bags Uncle Sam floating the entitlements.

    Btw,sanders scares a lot of us with his very vague hands off foreign policy approach.And the tax burden he would put on the small businesses in this country will have the opposite affect of what he thinks he will achieve.