2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

I read the plan Brian.
Still a long time to election.Not so sure Trump will be leading by then.Watch out for the moderates on rep side.I wouldn't right off Rubio.

moderates? LOL

lol yep. "moderate" and "republican presidential candidate" can't be uttered in the same sentence. they swing waaay right in the primary season and then pivot back to the not so far right for the general. there is no moderate out there. jeb is as moderate as they come, and he is not gaining any sort of traction with the new base.

That surprises me a bit, gimme. Any idea why that is?

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

I read the plan Brian.
Still a long time to election.Not so sure Trump will be leading by then.Watch out for the moderates on rep side.I wouldn't right off Rubio.

moderates? LOL

lol yep. "moderate" and "republican presidential candidate" can't be uttered in the same sentence. they swing waaay right in the primary season and then pivot back to the not so far right for the general. there is no moderate out there. jeb is as moderate as they come, and he is not gaining any sort of traction with the new base.

That surprises me a bit, gimme. Any idea why that is?

i think that it is one of a few things.

1. the base is sick of the bush family.
2. bush is running as a moderate. a washington insider, who ironically has no washington experience.
3. he is milquetoast. does not really get fired up about much.
4. trump's attacks have sunk in. low energy, etc.
5. the base wants someone like dwayne elisandro herbert mountain dew camacho.

It's #4 that is of major concern- that somewhat that off kilter has to much pull.

And #5... well,

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

I read the plan Brian.
Still a long time to election.Not so sure Trump will be leading by then.Watch out for the moderates on rep side.I wouldn't right off Rubio.

moderates? LOL

lol yep. "moderate" and "republican presidential candidate" can't be uttered in the same sentence. they swing waaay right in the primary season and then pivot back to the not so far right for the general. there is no moderate out there. jeb is as moderate as they come, and he is not gaining any sort of traction with the new base.

That surprises me a bit, gimme. Any idea why that is?

The GOP has created a monster. They have dumbed down their base and expanded their base by reaching out to the lowest common denominator of voters.

The GOP establishment is in crisis mode right now and there is not a damn thing they can do about it.

They've somehow allowed themselves to be taken over by clowns. All these pictures of Palin and Trump together and it seems to me most of those who still support these two are attracted by the outlandishness and bravado of their media circus tactics and not really at all by anything grounded in political sensibilities. What is disturbing is the apparent large numbers of people who fall for this nonsense. This is the best a major American political party can produce? Come on!!

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

What's hilarious is that the GOP is now suggesting that if Trump is the nominee they might push for a third party to run against him. Remember when they were so afraid that he would leave the GOP and run as independent? Now it appears that he might be the guy and that is even worse then if he left.

And while this is going on behind the scenes all the right wingers are saying that the Dems are terrified of Trump winning the nomination.

As a political junkie I love it

I think it sucks. There isn't a candidate worth a damn in the whole race.

I do think the Dems are scared of a Trump nomination...because he is a wildcard and an expert and manipulating the people...who knows what happens if he gets into the general election. They would much rather face a Cruz.

Disagree. I think Sanders and Clinton would be great. I'm not too afraid of Kasich, Bush or Christie on the GOP side although I believe Sanders or Clinton would be far better.

If Sanders gets the nomination I believe he will pick Elizabeth Warren for VP and that would be unbeatable.

I meant ones that can win...so while I too am ok with a few of the republicans on most accounts...they are done.

As far as Bernie or Hillary - we will just agree to disagree. Though I will say that I will not vote for Cruz or Trump. So if one of them is the nominee...I will consider a Hillary vote. I don't think I could vote for Bernie though. He is the left's Trump.

No offense, Cincy, and I know you speak honestly so I won't say "Really?!" but it's hard to wrap my head around the idea that Sanders is as far off the grid of rationality as Trump.