Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

polaris_x said:

JTH said:

polaris_x said:

chewie goes because she's taking the milenium falcon ... he's linked to the ship ...

Also, with Han gone, Luke might just be Chewie's closest friend.

As far as the acting in the prequels, George Lucas managed to take a slew of Oscar-caliber actors and make them look, at best, average. Ian McDiarmid & Ewan McGregor (interesting -- both are Scottish. I never noticed that til just now.) probably had the strongest performances overall but they definitely had some moments that were cringe-worthy.

Seriously, look at the talent on that roster. It should be impossible to get dull performances out of them: Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, Sam Jackson, Christopher Lee, and even Keira Knightley & Terence Stamp in minor roles.

If you look at those people you listed - they've all made bad movies ... also, they aren't the most versatile actors ...

i would say ewan mcgregor held his own in the prequels ... and the guy who played palpatine ... liam neeson was good in his role but he was only in the 1 movie ...

Ewan got better and better until by the end of 3 he was really good. He was gold star on Mustafar.

And to be fair, she was like 14 at the time so she didn't have nearly the résumé of the other thespians on my list

ldent42 said:

I read a theory that she's a Kenobi.

I'm not really clear on the "episodes." The first one, from the 70s, that's episode 1 or episode 4?

The first movie release in te '70s is chapter 4, subtitled 'a new hope'.
Empire was 5 & Jedi was 6.

The three prequels released around 15 years ago are chapters 1-3.


Finally seeing it for the 2nd time tonight. I'll be seeing it in IMAX / 3d, so I'll see how this goes.

(Looking forward to when the X wings show up for the first time..... That battle should look great on IMAX)

I saw it last night for the 2nd time.

If anyone gets a chance to see it in 3D, jump on it. It's worth the extra scratch.

Han had a very guilty look on his face when Rey remarked on never thinking 'there could be this much green in the galaxy'...... It could mean nothing, it could mean something, but it was an odd look to say the least.

Abrams nailed so many little nuances of the aircraft breaking atmosphere & flying low / hitting the earth. The 3D really made those images pop..... I may go see it a third time!

2nd viewing also hammered home just how much Abrams dropped the ball when Chewie walked right by Leia after Han died. The fact that he walks right by her, and they don't even acknowledge each other was a major miss IMO.

Favorite scene, hands down is the first sequence w/ the Falcon. I needed a cigarette after that scene.

I've seen it a few times now and I read Han's expression when Rey says she has never seen so much green as pity. I think he feels sorry for her. As he turns away from her you almost see him shrug to himself, like he is deciding something. Then they land and he offers her the job. I think her never seeing the wonders of the galaxy before is something he can fix and he realizes it. I don't think it is guilt.

The conversation with Maz is trickier. Feels deliberately left open to interpretation. Maz doesn't know who Rey is, asks Han, and then in the very next scene knows she is Force sensitive. So Han could have told her...or she could have sensed Rey's encounter with the light saber. I'm going with the second option because I still don't buy any of our original trilogy heroes would have abandoned a child to starve on Jakku.

rgambs said:

JimmyV said:

I've seen it a few times now and I read Han's expression when Rey says she has never seen so much green as pity. I think he feels sorry for her. As he turns away from her you almost see him shrug to himself, like he is deciding something. Then they land and he offers her the job. I think her never seeing the wonders of the galaxy before is something he can fix and he realizes it. I don't think it is guilt.

The conversation with Maz is trickier. Feels deliberately left open to interpretation. Maz doesn't know who Rey is, asks Han, and then in the very next scene knows she is Force sensitive. So Han could have told her...or she could have sensed Rey's encounter with the light saber. I'm going with the second option because I still don't buy any of our original trilogy heroes would have abandoned a child to starve on Jakku.

I am with you 100%.
Assuming shes Lukes daughter, the only reason to leave her on Jakku is if Luke is turning or in danger of turning, then Leia might hide her. Otherwise she's safest with Luke in hiding anyways...

Or she was one of the kids training with Luke and was brought to Jakku for her safety when Ben started turning to the dark side.

EarlWelsh said:

rgambs said:

JimmyV said:

I've seen it a few times now and I read Han's expression when Rey says she has never seen so much green as pity. I think he feels sorry for her. As he turns away from her you almost see him shrug to himself, like he is deciding something. Then they land and he offers her the job. I think her never seeing the wonders of the galaxy before is something he can fix and he realizes it. I don't think it is guilt.

The conversation with Maz is trickier. Feels deliberately left open to interpretation. Maz doesn't know who Rey is, asks Han, and then in the very next scene knows she is Force sensitive. So Han could have told her...or she could have sensed Rey's encounter with the light saber. I'm going with the second option because I still don't buy any of our original trilogy heroes would have abandoned a child to starve on Jakku.

I am with you 100%.
Assuming shes Lukes daughter, the only reason to leave her on Jakku is if Luke is turning or in danger of turning, then Leia might hide her. Otherwise she's safest with Luke in hiding anyways...

Or she was one of the kids training with Luke and was brought to Jakku for her safety when Ben started turning to the dark side.

I don't see how she could be safer as a lone peasant on a desolate, Darwinian planet than she would be with the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. The fear that Luke might turn makes it possible that's the only way it works for me. Plus I just hate the thought that it's a repressed or erased memory, that just strikes me as a cheesy, corny, lazy plot line.

polaris_x said:

we will find out in episode 8 what rey's childhood was really like ... we don't know for certain who raised her ... easy enough to raise her and set her adrift while keeping a close eye on her ... like really - where is she gonna go? ... i feel like this creative team will want to recreate a "luke, I am your father" moment ... so, not sure if the luke reveal will be that surprising to anyone ... being a kenobi might ...

Yeah, Luke as the father just seems too obvious and predictable. A Kenobi would be better. A Solo would be just as bad as Luke, Han's interaction with her wouldn't make any sense.

rgambs said:

EarlWelsh said:

rgambs said:

JimmyV said:

I've seen it a few times now and I read Han's expression when Rey says she has never seen so much green as pity. I think he feels sorry for her. As he turns away from her you almost see him shrug to himself, like he is deciding something. Then they land and he offers her the job. I think her never seeing the wonders of the galaxy before is something he can fix and he realizes it. I don't think it is guilt.

The conversation with Maz is trickier. Feels deliberately left open to interpretation. Maz doesn't know who Rey is, asks Han, and then in the very next scene knows she is Force sensitive. So Han could have told her...or she could have sensed Rey's encounter with the light saber. I'm going with the second option because I still don't buy any of our original trilogy heroes would have abandoned a child to starve on Jakku.

I am with you 100%.
Assuming shes Lukes daughter, the only reason to leave her on Jakku is if Luke is turning or in danger of turning, then Leia might hide her. Otherwise she's safest with Luke in hiding anyways...

Or she was one of the kids training with Luke and was brought to Jakku for her safety when Ben started turning to the dark side.

I don't see how she could be safer as a lone peasant on a desolate, Darwinian planet than she would be with the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. The fear that Luke might turn makes it possible that's the only way it works for me. Plus I just hate the thought that it's a repressed or erased memory, that just strikes me as a cheesy, corny, lazy plot line.

It can be argued that she wouldn't be safe with Luke because of who would be looking to destroy Luke. And in the "care" of Plutt there's less chance of her rediscovering the force and endangering herself until Luke, or whomever, decides the time is right to pull her out of her measly peasant life and complete training. Also can be argued that Plutt wanted the droid because he knew more about it than he was leading on, such as the trouble it would bring Rey.