Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

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  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    No, the one holding her hand was definitely Unkar Plutt, the junk dealer. You can see his fat green hand, plain as day. And he may seem like scum but maybe he's her "Obi-Wan" because he would be the most unsuspecting character. He doesn't have to be a good guy to be that role. He's a barterer and perhaps he was offered something in exchange for keeping an eye on Rey.
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Yep, you're right. Plutt not Tekka....
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  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Wow. This will change how you see everything.

    really really cool. Give it a watch. Watch Obi Wan's eyes

    The truth. From a certain point of view
    http://youtu.be/hN74bOubUug
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    edited January 2016
    Thoughts_Arrive said:

    I like the OB1 theory but he is from the old Jedi order where marriage or any sort of attachment was forbidden. Having said that, in ep4 he tells Luke when he meets him that ''I was once a jedi knight....", if he says he used to be a jedi knight one can assume he is no longer a knight thus can have a marriage.


    Obi wan never says the words 'I was once a Jedi knight' nor any alternate version of that statement nor does he infer verbally that he currently is or formerly was a Jedi. At any point in episode 4
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Ps it's Obi wan.

    Not OB1, which sounds like some Jedi droid somewhere.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    eldarion75 said:

    Thoughts_Arrive said:

    I like the OB1 theory but he is from the old Jedi order where marriage or any sort of attachment was forbidden. Having said that, in ep4 he tells Luke when he meets him that ''I was once a jedi knight....", if he says he used to be a jedi knight one can assume he is no longer a knight thus can have a marriage.


    Obi wan never says the words 'I was once a Jedi knight' nor any alternate version of that statement nor does he infer verbally that he currently is or formerly was a Jedi. At any point in episode 4
    Yes he does, check the scene from ep 4 posted above
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited January 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mjFfdrTJrQ
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  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Fun theory
    https://instagram.com/p/BAVXx7AzBFO/embed/
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I was thinking, it is crucial how Lor San Tekka got the map data.
    Whoever dropped off Rey on Jakku as a child would've given the map to Lor San Tekka.
    If Kylo Ren dropped her off then I doubt he would have done that as he is after the map.
    Unless he dropped Rey off and someone else gave the map to Lor San Tekka.
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    i heard mostly they think shes obi wan kenobi's daughter but we shall see next year
  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    JWPearl said:

    i heard mostly they think shes obi wan kenobi's daughter but we shall see next year

    Thats not possible. She would be much older.
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    not necessarily
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Not if Ol' Ben totally force-ghost-fucked some lucky lady.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    Still think she is some kind of Force baby that was created using Luke's severed hand as a template. So she is kind of, sort of but not really Luke's daughter.
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    EarlWelsh said:

    Not if Ol' Ben totally force-ghost-fucked some lucky lady.

    Or jerked off in a cryogenic space cup and entrusted it to the Jawa's for safe keeping
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    JimmyV said:

    Still think she is some kind of Force baby that was created using Luke's severed hand as a template. So she is kind of, sort of but not really Luke's daughter.

    I don't like that cloned from Luke's hand theory. I'd hate if that were the reveal.
    I like the Obi Wan relation.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,110
    JWPearl said:

    not necessarily

    Kenobi was killed as an old (likely no longer potent) man somewhere around 30-35 yrs ago based on ages of Solo and Leia, Rey looks to be 18-22 range. Yeah its not really possible.
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  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    Thoughts_Arrive said:

    eldarion75 said:

    Thoughts_Arrive said:

    I like the OB1 theory but he is from the old Jedi order where marriage or any sort of attachment was forbidden. Having said that, in ep4 he tells Luke when he meets him that ''I was once a jedi knight....", if he says he used to be a jedi knight one can assume he is no longer a knight thus can have a marriage.


    Obi wan never says the words 'I was once a Jedi knight' nor any alternate version of that statement nor does he infer verbally that he currently is or formerly was a Jedi. At any point in episode 4
    Yes he does, check the scene from ep 4 posted above
    Heh. Yeah, it's those words exactly.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I was watching ep 4 last night and noticed how Luke is playing with a toy of a space fighter and remembered Rey did the same when she was sitting by her AT-AT home. A clue they are very alike thus father/daughter?
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  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Hobbes said:

    She was left with Tekka, not the junk dealer. Tekka is her Obi-Wan.

    It says in the script she is left with Unkar plat

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