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    I wonder what Jeb's stance is when it comes to topic integrity

    Same as every single other national candidate. That's the first thing to go.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    BS44325 said:

    I do own that which is why I think the withdrawal was a massive mistake. As per Colin Powell pre-invasion "you break it, you own it". Leaving is washing your hands of a problem your country actively participated in.
    george w bush should have listned to colin powell before he

    a: invaded iraq in the first place
    b: SIGNED STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT TYING THE HANDS OF THE FOLLOWING PRESIDENT.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,412

    george w bush should have listned to colin powell before he

    a: invaded iraq in the first place
    b: SIGNED STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT TYING THE HANDS OF THE FOLLOWING PRESIDENT.
    Don't forget the most important pieces of the Powell Doctrine (not the Pottery Barn rule quoted here). Could we really say yes to all of these in 2002? Powell's brilliant career was tarnished by his inability to support his own strategic requirements.

    Is a vital national security interest threatened?
    Do we have a clear attainable objective?
    Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
    Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
    Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
    Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
    Is the action supported by the American people?
    Do we have genuine broad international support?
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    mrussel1 said:

    Don't forget the most important pieces of the Powell Doctrine (not the Pottery Barn rule quoted here). Could we really say yes to all of these in 2002? Powell's brilliant career was tarnished by his inability to support his own strategic requirements.

    Is a vital national security interest threatened?
    Do we have a clear attainable objective?
    Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
    Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
    Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
    Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
    Is the action supported by the American people?
    Do we have genuine broad international support?
    Good post!
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,508
    mrussel1 said:

    Don't forget the most important pieces of the Powell Doctrine (not the Pottery Barn rule quoted here). Could we really say yes to all of these in 2002? Powell's brilliant career was tarnished by his inability to support his own strategic requirements.

    Is a vital national security interest threatened?
    Do we have a clear attainable objective?
    Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
    Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
    Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
    Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
    Is the action supported by the American people?
    Do we have genuine broad international support?
    But Powell was fed a crock of shit...he figured that out later which is most likely a big part in his support of Obama in 2008. That was huge...a former GOP Sec of State endorsing the democrat vs McCain.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,360
    mrussel1 said:

    Don't forget the most important pieces of the Powell Doctrine (not the Pottery Barn rule quoted here). Could we really say yes to all of these in 2002? Powell's brilliant career was tarnished by his inability to support his own strategic requirements.

    Is a vital national security interest threatened?
    Do we have a clear attainable objective?
    Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
    Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
    Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
    Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
    Is the action supported by the American people?
    Do we have genuine broad international support?
    At the very least, questions 1, 3, 5, and 6 are definite no's and were the same in 2003.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    worst......campaign.....logo.....ever.....

    :FACEPALM!!!!!:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,959

    worst......campaign.....logo.....ever.....


    :FACEPALM!!!!!:

    Aaah, but it's so... PERKY!

    Oh, and allow me, gimme:

    image

    haha!





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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,969

    worst......campaign.....logo.....ever.....

    :FACEPALM!!!!!:

    I'm gonna have to say that a Democrat's logo guiding the viewer to the right with a red arrow is worse.

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  • https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-jeb-bush-raffle-128225858145.html

    The spirit of antic fun that Stephen Colbert is spreading in advance of his Late Show premiere on Sept. 8 just got a little sharper. Colbert got wind of a raffle opening-night guest Jeb Bush is holding — send three dollars to Bush’s campaign and get a chance to win a ticket to the show — and the Late Show host decided to get in on the action.

    In a new video, Colbert cheerfully chides Bush for not telling anyone at the Late Show that he was using the Colbert program as a fund-raising strategy: “No one from Jeb’s campaign asked me if this was okay with me to raise money off my first show,” says Colbert. “Where’s my cut of that sweet three bucks, Governor, huh?”


    Stephen Colbert Smacks Jeb Bush For Fund-Raising Raffle


    The spirit of antic fun that Stephen Colbert is spreading in advance of his Late Show premiere on Sept. 8 just got a little sharper. Colbert got wind of a raffle opening-night guest Jeb Bush is holding — send three dollars to Bush’s campaign and get a chance to win a ticket to the show — and the Late Show host decided to get in on the action.

    In a new video, Colbert cheerfully chides Bush for not telling anyone at the Late Show that he was using the Colbert program as a fund-raising strategy: “No one from Jeb’s campaign asked me if this was okay with me to raise money off my first show,” says Colbert. “Where’s my cut of that sweet three bucks, Governor, huh?”


    Colbert then announces his own “Jeb Bush On The Stephen Colbert Late Show Raffle!” (exclamation point Colbert’s, mocking Bush’s own “Jeb!” campaign logo). Send three bucks to Colbert, and rather than put it in his own pocket, as Bush is doing, Colbert will donate it to Yellow Ribbon Fund that assists injured military personnel and their families.

    It’s great that Colbert and his staff are not just staying aware of what’s going on, but are using stunts like Bush’s to piggyback comedy stunts of their own off of it.

    The build-up to Colbert’s opening night just keeps getting more intriguing.

    The Late Show with Stephen Colbert premieres Sept. 8 at 11:35 p.m. on CBS.
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    I can't see any way that going on the first show is going to better Jeb. It's probably going to be a lot of people watching that haven't started paying attention to the election yet and will see Colbert make a fool out of him, what is the strategy there?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,226
    edited September 2015
    Jeb is soooooooooo boring. At least his brother isn't boring. He's dumb as a bag of rocks, but not boring.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,508
    RiotZact said:

    I can't see any way that going on the first show is going to better Jeb. It's probably going to be a lot of people watching that haven't started paying attention to the election yet and will see Colbert make a fool out of him, what is the strategy there?

    I thought he came across pretty well.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2015
    Did some Dubya moves and gestures and I gagged. Looks and sounds way to much like his dumb brother.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,226

    I thought he came across pretty well.
    I think he always comes across just fine.... assuming you don't care that he has no personality to speak of.
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Don't be hatin peeps
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260

    I thought he came across pretty well.
    Yeah I was really suprised Colbert didn't go harder on him.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,226
    RiotZact said:

    Yeah I was really suprised Colbert didn't go harder on him.
    He's not on that kind of show anymore.
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    PJ_Soul said:

    He's not on that kind of show anymore.
    I know, but Letterman went a lot harder than that on a lot of people. In retrospect I guess he did take a couple little shots.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    colbert can't be all upitty in his first few months. those advertisers are going to make or break him.
    letterman could get away with it because he was an institution. i mean, what were they gonna do, fire letterman?
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  • Said it before, I'll say it again. Unfortunately Jebs already been chosen the next president. Happened at the bildeberg meeting this year.

    Here's an article if interested.

    https://revisedhistory.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/has-the-next-president-already-been-chosen-and-is-the-election-just-going-through-the-motions/
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,106

    Said it before, I'll say it again. Unfortunately Jebs already been chosen the next president. Happened at the bildeberg meeting this year.

    Here's an article if interested.

    https://revisedhistory.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/has-the-next-president-already-been-chosen-and-is-the-election-just-going-through-the-motions/

    Can you please also tell us who they chose to win the Super Biwl next year so I can my bet down.

    Thanks

    :joker:
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,250

    Said it before, I'll say it again. Unfortunately Jebs already been chosen the next president. Happened at the bildeberg meeting this year.

    Here's an article if interested.

    https://revisedhistory.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/has-the-next-president-already-been-chosen-and-is-the-election-just-going-through-the-motions/

    First off - any article that refers to a presidential candidate as "Hitlery" has very clearly lost all credibility.

    Second - if I make a Kickstarter campaign and I don't make it to the end, I'm significantly less likely to make my second campaign statistically speaking. This is no different. This so-called sudden about-face post-Bilderberg could very well be influenced by Bilderberg, but I think you're seriously diminishing the potential that maybe they, I don't know, have a concept of long-term strategy? But then again, I know that's not what makes a good president these days in the eyes of its citizens, so maybe I'm wrong.

    Third - we are all influencers, and we are all influenced, but if put in a room with recognizably successful humans who come with backgrounds of varied expertise - the only fools in the rooms are the ones who are adamant that they ought to walk out of the room uninfluenced.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    oh yeah, hitlery is the mark of the height of journalism....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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