Jeb

Gern Blansten

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

InHiding80

callen said:

Jeb went full political and backs discrimination against homosexuals.

In other words, he just got more GOP support.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

josevolution

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

Exactly they will never admit what a gigantic mistake it was to have invaded ...

BS44325

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

Exactly they will never admit what a gigantic mistake it was to have invaded ...

And the next democratic nominee will have to admit that it was a gigantic mistake to leave Iraq

josevolution

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

Exactly they will never admit what a gigantic mistake it was to have invaded ...

And the next democratic nominee will have to admit that it was a gigantic mistake to leave Iraq

Again I'll have more respect for a man that admits their mistakes that led to this mess let's come to terms with the 1st mistake ok

BS44325

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

Exactly they will never admit what a gigantic mistake it was to have invaded ...

And the next democratic nominee will have to admit that it was a gigantic mistake to leave Iraq

Again I'll have more respect for a man that admits their mistakes that led to this mess let's come to terms with the 1st mistake ok

In the next election you will have a democratic candidate who both voted for the initial invasion and then presided over the withdrawal. Let's see what level of respect that generates.

Gern Blansten

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

callen

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is just absolutely hilarious watching those idiots respond to Iraq questions. They have to be so careful of what they say because they have dumbed down their base so much they can't begin to touch on the truth without looking like a complete hypocrite.

it just speaks to the dissonance that you have to have to be a republican presidential candidate.

funny thing is, more and more republicans feel that we should not be getting involved in other countries or regions. the fiscal commitment to such a war would be questioned by today's republicans. going into iraq would fly in the face of those principles. these clowns think they are going to win the white house by saying they would make the same decision to invade even if they know what they know now. morons.

Exactly they will never admit what a gigantic mistake it was to have invaded ...

And the next democratic nominee will have to admit that it was a gigantic mistake to leave Iraq

It wasn't. Americans that lost their sons and daughters and Americans paying taxes wanted out. Democrats can speak to this.

callen

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

Did we go into Libya. No. Did we go into Egypt. No. Did we go into Syria. No. Good.

Gern Blansten

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

BS44325

callen said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

Did we go into Libya. No. Did we go into Egypt. No. Did we go into Syria. No. Good.

Oh you went into Libya. Knocked off Gaddafi and handed it right over to ISIS. Hillary's greatest accomplishment.

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

callen

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

Source?

BS44325

callen said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

Source?

Are you for real? She was secretary of state during the Libya campaign. She bragged about the removal of Gaddafi and it was heavily reported that she was instrumental in the administration decision making process. The NY Times is currently reporting that Sidney Blumenthal sent her secret intelligence emails on Libya that pushed for a certain outcome. Read a paper man! Every republican must own Iraq but no democrat should own Libya? I love how this game works.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0&referrer=

http://youtu.be/mlz3-OzcExI

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

Source?

Are you for real? She was secretary of state during the Libya campaign. She bragged about the removal of Gaddafi and it was heavily reported that she was instrumental in the administration decision making process. The NY Times is currently reporting that Sidney Blumenthal sent her secret intelligence emails on Libya that pushed for a certain outcome. Read a paper man! Every republican must own Iraq but no democrat should own Libya? I love how this game works.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0&referrer=

That's a stretch. They weren't "secret intelligence memos" as you state. They were memos of his opinion in an attempt to shape policy for a desired outcome. Which looks like "it", desired outcomes=floating hospitals & schools, didn't happen based on the article. If Hillary should be pilloried, it should be for passing along memos of dubious quality from a "trusted" source. It strikes me as Blumenthal was "influence peddling" and failed to influence. Conspiracy theory much?

callen

BS44325 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

Source?

Are you for real? She was secretary of state during the Libya campaign. She bragged about the removal of Gaddafi and it was heavily reported that she was instrumental in the administration decision making process. The NY Times is currently reporting that Sidney Blumenthal sent her secret intelligence emails on Libya that pushed for a certain outcome. Read a paper man! Every republican must own Iraq but no democrat should own Libya? I love how this game works.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0&referrer=

http://youtu.be/mlz3-OzcExI

My request for a source was just that. Your article did not describe Clinton having a hand in overthrowing Gaddafi. Far from it. Same BS ( pun intended) Benghazi chanting from the right. And you know doesn't even matter, I'm not going to start playing your game of moving the target and now start defending politicians. Yes all politicians are slimy.

So, again counter to what McCain and other war Hawks wanted, including you we didn't put thousands of troops into these countries. And rightfully so. We can't affect outcome. Hasn't happened in past and won't happen in the future. And the wonderful thing is the majority if the American population is also tired of these folly adventures killing many and pissing away $$

Suggest you STOP reading much of the crap that influences you.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Voting for the invasion after being fed doctored intelligence isn't quite the same as doctoring the intelligence.

Are you talking about Iraq or Libya?

Blumenthal passed Hillary intel and she pushed for the invasion of Libya. That went real well..talk about learning from your mistakes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/20/chris_hayes_why_does_no_one_want_to_talk_about_how_hillary_clinton_destroyed_libya.html#ooid=h4MHk2dToqcdBFoOtiXfyo9-0ye5Fj2A

You referred to her "voting"....that would be for Iraq. Come on man

She also "voted" for the removal of Gaddafi. She just did it behind closed doors. Once again...talk about learning from your mistakes.

Source?

Are you for real? She was secretary of state during the Libya campaign. She bragged about the removal of Gaddafi and it was heavily reported that she was instrumental in the administration decision making process. The NY Times is currently reporting that Sidney Blumenthal sent her secret intelligence emails on Libya that pushed for a certain outcome. Read a paper man! Every republican must own Iraq but no democrat should own Libya? I love how this game works.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0&referrer=

That's a stretch. They weren't "secret intelligence memos" as you state. They were memos of his opinion in an attempt to shape policy for a desired outcome. Which looks like "it", desired outcomes=floating hospitals & schools, didn't happen based on the article. If Hillary should be pilloried, it should be for passing along memos of dubious quality from a "trusted" source. It strikes me as Blumenthal was "influence peddling" and failed to influence. Conspiracy theory much?

Maybe yes maybe no. Hillary wanted Gaddafi gone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2931683/Secret-recordings-military-Democratic-congressman-distrusted-Hillary-Clinton-Libya-went-negotiate-Gadhafi.html

Halifax2TheMax

Care to retract the bolded portion of your claim? And as callen stated, we didn't invade Libya despite the war mongers demands to do so. Its interesting how you misrepresent what you read to shape your desired outcome. Kind of like Cheney, et. al. come to think of it.