Migrants rushing Europian Borders

I hope you see it as a human crisis and not an immigrant problem.
These are asylum seekers; refugees...
Over 2500 of them have died around the Mediterranean so far this year.
This is what happens when we destabilize entire regions....
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/8/31/preserving_borders_vs_preserving_people_death

I feel so upset every time I see/read/hear about this crisis. I can't even imagine how desperate some of those people are - I literally get choked up about it. It's shameful that the world as a whole still hasn't managed to figure out a way to help them. There are enough resources and enough space to help them and find homes and jobs for them, but it would take international cooperation and coordination, and the no world leaders give a fuck. A few countries and people are attempting to step up and do what they can, but it's not nearly enough and they have no support. This crisis, to me, is highlighting how selfish the world is.

Of course I do not expect just those European countries bordering on crossings to deal with it all. I feel terrible for their situation as well. I'm sure it's a real rock and a hard place for thise who aren't just nastily angry and defensive. It's sad to think of the dilemma that puts some good people in.

What an awful, depressing clusterfuck. There as we're now more refugees in the world right at this very second as there were during all of the Second World War.

Funny that we look at this as a european problem, when the vast majority of refugees are hosted in middle eastern nations. You look at graphs of refugee host nations and find a lot of 'evil' nations topping the list....Pakistain, Iran, Syria, Lebanon. Germany is the only euro country near the top. But hey....too many burkas in England, godamnit!

Jason P said:

It was once rejoiced by the left as the Arab Spring! It was US supported dictatorships being overthrown by the people.

Problem is, some of those people are super fucking nuts and evil, and unfortunately, fairly organized.

No mention of foreign intervention or the results of west-waged war?
Afghanistan and Syria are the two major refugee source countries - two countries in which the US/western powers are heavily involved. Afghanistan is not considered an arab spring nation, and we should take a huge part of the blame for their plight. Syria....well, you've seen my opinions on what is happening there. It hasn't been about crushing a protest movement there for years.

Godfather. said:

what all this means.. is war, the US will be asked to help and we will because that's what we do,
you can say we do it for oil but after the body count is finished will it really matter ? people will depend on the bleeding hearts of America to come to the rescue...they always do, just out of curiosity how many of you would be willing send your loved ones off to another war ?...that has to be fought with political correctness in mind...meaning no colleteral damage...meaning the war will never be finished because people will scream and whine about the innocent victims of war and demand a pull out. cold hearted or not it a real possibality, personally I hope the US does not get involved...at all !

Godfather.

A true humanitarian.

Oh I'm sorry I thought we are talking about a humanitarian crisis, not starting wars over this.

It is horrible to read the news from Germany at the moment. The refugee influx has given a certain group of people who are very hostile towards foreigners new forums and support from all kinds of sides. It is especially bad in one state, Saxonia. People are gathering and riot in front of the refugee camps, show their stupidity, intolerance and ignorance on all channels of the social media. It reminds a lot of stuff that happened in the past, and it is horrifying to think about what happens next. I try to catch up with events, but am not always up on everything. From what I am reading, there are certain locations where camps have been set up without getting the vote of the people who live there. The East has a certain history with being hostile to foreigners, oddly enough being an area of Germany where not a lot of them were present for a long time. But it is also happening in the Western part of the country. Not everybody of those rioters would be called a Neonazi, but the tendencies in their thinking and in their words are there. The "concerned citizens", as they have been labelled, try to bring their points of intolerance across by claiming rassist statements that cannot or are not true or to be feared in the least, stating that they are "just concerned". Then the angry mob leads the way and terrible things are happening. It is good to see that this is not something that is everywhere. It is good to see people stepping up, celebrities, politicians, regular people, by having "welcome refugees" fests, donating actions and generally speaking up against this abhorrent display of hate.

rr165892 said:

First we have to help these people trying to escape the violence.Europe has to step up.We should have learned our lesson from WW 2 about taking in those being persecuted.

Drowned,you say "we" destabilized the region.Assad and IsIs is doing a fine job of it without our help.You can't put this one on the west.

That is utterly ridiculous. Decades of war waged by us with the purpose of destabilization, and you are only willing to take the blame back a year or two?
Geopolitical influence has a 3 year half life now?

Drowned and Gambs.Im so sorry.How could I forget.
Its all our fault.We are evil.We are the cause of all the worlds problems.No one else in the Middle East or North Africa is to blame.The area is a cesspool of violence.All caused by money Hungry fat Americans.Fucked up radical Islamic fundamentalists really aren't a problem it's all the media fault.
Do I have this right? Because blame always goes one way on this subject.Im at least willing to acknowledge we do hold some responsibility for destabilization of the reason.But by no means all.It would be nice to see the same from you guys.Wheres the critical assessment of the the other destabilizing governments and entities?