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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Always amazed watching Alaska state troopers. Several times walked away from potentially lethal situation versus going in to get them as they would in every case in Texas. Yes I know they act different due to being on TV but the non escalating strategy works.

    Sometimes.But there are times where force is not only needed but necessary.
    Have you had chance to check out few episodes. Fairbanks can get rough. Really impressed how they deal with natives in small villages.

    Had a drunk suicidal threatening male. Had him outnumbered and out gunned. Decided to wait him out till next day. He sobered up came out shook their hands and arrested.

    Ex marine PTSD. Sharpshooter. They left him in his house.

    In Texas they would of killed both these fkers.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Always amazed watching Alaska state troopers. Several times walked away from potentially lethal situation versus going in to get them as they would in every case in Texas. Yes I know they act different due to being on TV but the non escalating strategy works.

    Sometimes.But there are times where force is not only needed but necessary.
    Have you had chance to check out few episodes. Fairbanks can get rough. Really impressed how they deal with natives in small villages.

    Had a drunk suicidal threatening male. Had him outnumbered and out gunned. Decided to wait him out till next day. He sobered up came out shook their hands and arrested.

    Ex marine PTSD. Sharpshooter. They left him in his house.

    In Texas they would of killed both these fkers.
    Interesting to hear about these; thanks for posting.

    There will always be people who say "sure, but they shouldn't have taken the risk of waiting them out because these could have ended up really badly". Yes, but the choice of always going in fast and heavy has risks, too.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Always amazed watching Alaska state troopers. Several times walked away from potentially lethal situation versus going in to get them as they would in every case in Texas. Yes I know they act different due to being on TV but the non escalating strategy works.

    Sometimes.But there are times where force is not only needed but necessary.
    Have you had chance to check out few episodes. Fairbanks can get rough. Really impressed how they deal with natives in small villages.

    Had a drunk suicidal threatening male. Had him outnumbered and out gunned. Decided to wait him out till next day. He sobered up came out shook their hands and arrested.

    Ex marine PTSD. Sharpshooter. They left him in his house.

    In Texas they would of killed both these fkers.
    I've seen southern justice and Rocky Mountain law.Ill give the Alaska show a watch.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    This is why ,right now the English system of policing isn't relevant in th U S.
    http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_28389.shtml?wap=0&
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    rr165892 said:

    This is why ,right now the English system of policing isn't relevant in th U S.
    http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_28389.shtml?wap=0&

    Suspect found dead.

    I'm not torn up over this.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    What's a reasonable punishment for a group of cops when their lies nearly ruin a person's life?

    https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/10866509_628050893988662_1405493744_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQxNSwicmxhIjo5OTh9&rl=415&vabr=231&oh=a403c022dcc87231748173db489be0ec&oe=55DB51E1
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Drowned Out said:

    What's a reasonable punishment for a group of cops when their lies nearly ruin a person's life?

    https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/10866509_628050893988662_1405493744_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQxNSwicmxhIjo5OTh9&rl=415&vabr=231&oh=a403c022dcc87231748173db489be0ec&oe=55DB51E1

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Drowned Out said:

    What's a reasonable punishment for a group of cops when their lies nearly ruin a person's life?

    https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/10866509_628050893988662_1405493744_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQxNSwicmxhIjo5OTh9&rl=415&vabr=231&oh=a403c022dcc87231748173db489be0ec&oe=55DB51E1

    Internal Affairs found no wrongdoings: yet again, another reason for the logical move to having independent commissions investigate allegations of abuse.

    You'd like to think with all these stories surfacing, the seemingly endless stream of brutality would be coming to an end.

    In answer to your question, Jeter needs a payout and those officers should face (off the top of my head) obstruction of justice and assault charges.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Oh yeah... the one cop should be made to go to driving school.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    What's a reasonable punishment for a group of cops when their lies nearly ruin a person's life?

    https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/10866509_628050893988662_1405493744_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQxNSwicmxhIjo5OTh9&rl=415&vabr=231&oh=a403c022dcc87231748173db489be0ec&oe=55DB51E1

    Internal Affairs found no wrongdoings: yet again, another reason for the logical move to having independent commissions investigate allegations of abuse.

    You'd like to think with all these stories surfacing, the seemingly endless stream of brutality would be coming to an end.

    In answer to your question, Jeter needs a payout and those officers should face (off the top of my head) obstruction of justice and assault charges.
    Well of course they IA found no wrong doings....isn't it odd I've heard those sayings before "stop resisting" "why you going for my gun". Once those words are said everything after that is justified. That other officer rammed and damaged even though Jeter's car was in park. My sister lives in Bloomsfield, NJ and it's scary to think that SOME of the officers there are comfortable acting this way against an innocent citizen....no video, Jeter's in jail for a year or two.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,744
    edited August 2015
    oftenreading said:

    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Always amazed watching Alaska state troopers. Several times walked away from potentially lethal situation versus going in to get them as they would in every case in Texas. Yes I know they act different due to being on TV but the non escalating strategy works.

    Sometimes.But there are times where force is not only needed but necessary.
    Have you had chance to check out few episodes. Fairbanks can get rough. Really impressed how they deal with natives in small villages.

    Had a drunk suicidal threatening male. Had him outnumbered and out gunned. Decided to wait him out till next day. He sobered up came out shook their hands and arrested.

    Ex marine PTSD. Sharpshooter. They left him in his house.

    In Texas they would of killed both these fkers.
    Interesting to hear about these; thanks for posting.

    There will always be people who say "sure, but they shouldn't have taken the risk of waiting them out because these could have ended up really badly". Yes, but the choice of always going in fast and heavy has risks, too.
    I don't see how waiting people out (at least for some amount of time) would ever create more risk than not waiting and using violence. Not unless it's a hostage situation.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,744
    edited August 2015
    dankind said:

    Drowned Out said:

    What's a reasonable punishment for a group of cops when their lies nearly ruin a person's life?

    https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/10866509_628050893988662_1405493744_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQxNSwicmxhIjo5OTh9&rl=415&vabr=231&oh=a403c022dcc87231748173db489be0ec&oe=55DB51E1

    Corruption in Jersey? Shut the front door!
    :lol:

    (But Kyle, that link you posted isn't working anymore. Page must have been removed, or there is some error)
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  • dankind
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    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/08/26/institutionalized-racism-bernie-sanders-backyard/xawl4yZbg0KnBPZDK73cSP/story.html
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Another cop killed near Chicago. It's hard to expef tthese cops to be perfect when they are dropping like flies.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited September 2015
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Another cop killed near Chicago. It's hard to expef tthese cops to be perfect when they are dropping like flies.

    Good call, Scott: Don't expect cops to be perfect.

    And whatever you do, don't record them being imperfect.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/36a09a369deb487585b89d52f4a1c2e9/police-sometimes-turn-citizen-smartphone-video
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Those cops that killed that dude with his hands up is absolutely insane. They are claiming he had a knife in his hands. But holy hell, the dude appeared to not be any threat to the THREE cops that were on the scene.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I really hope these cop killings aren't becoming a trend.
    All the more reason to take a good hard look at police-civilian relations in this country.
    Shit is getting out of hand.
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  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Those cops that killed that dude with his hands up is absolutely insane. They are claiming he had a knife in his hands. But holy hell, the dude appeared to not be any threat to the THREE cops that were on the scene.

    Fucking insane...
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  • chadwick
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    they ever catch the guys who shot & killed the officer near chicago yesterday?
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Musical break?

    https://youtu.be/_jy04ACD030
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