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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    The call for justice isn't needed. Nobody has to be convinced to chase these savage idiots down and bring them to justice.
    Nobody is going to falsify reports, obscure evidence, and band together to get them off the hook.
    There are no rules in place that make nearly any actions they take "justified".

    That's why.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    Speaking to the "Black on black" violence Gambs.Thats something that is happening multiple times daily in our area.Every night on my local news we have a murder .There is a real problem in the predominantly black communities with that kind of thing, espescially in our area here in South Florida.Is it an economic issue,a family issue,a drug or gang issue ?

    I guess what brings this into play in relation with the Police abuse issue is black leaders,family members,religious leaders and community activists form protests,jump on the media,do marches,get very vocal when a member of their community is killed at the hand of a white cop but when the way more prevalent ,daily black on black violence happens you hear crickets.Are those victims not as important because a black person pulled the trigger? Where is the outrage?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    Speaking to the "Black on black" violence Gambs.Thats something that is happening multiple times daily in our area.Every night on my local news we have a murder .There is a real problem in the predominantly black communities with that kind of thing, espescially in our area here in South Florida.Is it an economic issue,a family issue,a drug or gang issue ?

    I guess what brings this into play in relation with the Police abuse issue is black leaders,family members,religious leaders and community activists form protests,jump on the media,do marches,get very vocal when a member of their community is killed at the hand of a white cop but when the way more prevalent ,daily black on black violence happens you hear crickets.Are those victims not as important because a black person pulled the trigger? Where is the outrage?
    Yes.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    Speaking to the "Black on black" violence Gambs.Thats something that is happening multiple times daily in our area.Every night on my local news we have a murder .There is a real problem in the predominantly black communities with that kind of thing, espescially in our area here in South Florida.Is it an economic issue,a family issue,a drug or gang issue ?

    I guess what brings this into play in relation with the Police abuse issue is black leaders,family members,religious leaders and community activists form protests,jump on the media,do marches,get very vocal when a member of their community is killed at the hand of a white cop but when the way more prevalent ,daily black on black violence happens you hear crickets.Are those victims not as important because a black person pulled the trigger? Where is the outrage?
    It's not about the victims being less important, it's about the perpetrator being more important.
    When people in a position of authority abuse that authority, it is a problem that is wholly different than peers abusing each other.
    I don't see why you guys continue to ignore that point that I keep making.
    The young black men who murder each other are not paid by the government to protect each other, and they are held fully accountable to the law when they are caught.

    If a teacher, doctor, or priest abuses their students, patients, or parishioners is it the same to you as students, patients, and parishioners abusing each other?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited August 2015
    rr165892 said:

    And last night sheds light on why so many police may be a bit jumpy during routine traffic stops.
    As always we must look at both sides.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/02/us/memphis-officer-killed-traffic-stop/index.html

    Yes agree, some blame for these shootings should be put on the wonderful gun owners that flooded the market with their right to bare arms.


    Woo hoo more fraakin guns and god bless the US and Guns. God loves Guns. And executions. Woo hoo.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,714
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    Speaking to the "Black on black" violence Gambs.Thats something that is happening multiple times daily in our area.Every night on my local news we have a murder .There is a real problem in the predominantly black communities with that kind of thing, espescially in our area here in South Florida.Is it an economic issue,a family issue,a drug or gang issue ?

    I guess what brings this into play in relation with the Police abuse issue is black leaders,family members,religious leaders and community activists form protests,jump on the media,do marches,get very vocal when a member of their community is killed at the hand of a white cop but when the way more prevalent ,daily black on black violence happens you hear crickets.Are those victims not as important because a black person pulled the trigger? Where is the outrage?
    #blacklivesmatter. I get it. They absolutely do.What I question is whether its true WITHIN the black commuity as a whole. Some quarters , it doesn't appear so.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    I don't believe I brought up race. And this is not comparing police abuse to every other crime. It's asking why the cop haters aren't outraged that 2 police officers were killed in the line of duty. But I'm sure some of the cop haters will think they had it comin'.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    #copslivesmatter
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    I don't believe I brought up race. And this is not comparing police abuse to every other crime. It's asking why the cop haters aren't outraged that 2 police officers were killed in the line of duty. But I'm sure some of the cop haters will think they had it comin'.
    Really, they are true cop haters on here or is that your perception of their feelings on police abuse and lack thereof their heroics? I don't hate police in the least they're needed to keep order and peace. What I dislike is at times or many times is their abuse of the power they've sworn to serve the public. I praise them when come to the rescue of the public and I'll certainly chastise them they abuse the people they're supposed to serve.

    Peace
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    I don't believe I brought up race. And this is not comparing police abuse to every other crime. It's asking why the cop haters aren't outraged that 2 police officers were killed in the line of duty. But I'm sure some of the cop haters will think they had it comin'.
    I answered that question.
    Last-12-Exit said:

    #copslivesmatter

    Of course they do. I haven't seen anyone suggest otherwise.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Did I compare police abuse with every other crime?

    Where did you answer the question?
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    g under p said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    I don't believe I brought up race. And this is not comparing police abuse to every other crime. It's asking why the cop haters aren't outraged that 2 police officers were killed in the line of duty. But I'm sure some of the cop haters will think they had it comin'.
    Really, they are true cop haters on here or is that your perception of their feelings on police abuse and lack thereof their heroics? I don't hate police in the least they're needed to keep order and peace. What I dislike is at times or many times is their abuse of the power they've sworn to serve the public. I praise them when come to the rescue of the public and I'll certainly chastise them they abuse the people they're supposed to serve.

    Peace
    There are cop haters here. If you felt I was speaking directly at you, I wasnt. Did you feel I directed that at you?

    I did thumb through the "good cop" thread and in its 4 pages you did post 4 times. Two of the posts were praising and the other 2 posts were saying what cops shouldn't do. But that's not really relevant here.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Last-12-Exit said:

    g under p said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Where is the community outrage for the 2 cops killed in the past week during traffic stops? Why are any of you calling for these murderers brought to justice?

    It is getting a bit old hearing people compare police abuse to every other crime.
    "What about all the black on black crime?"
    To that I say, yeah, what about it? WTF does that have to do with it?

    It is not the same thing when government abuses it's authority over civillians and when civillians commit crimes against each other.
    I don't believe I brought up race. And this is not comparing police abuse to every other crime. It's asking why the cop haters aren't outraged that 2 police officers were killed in the line of duty. But I'm sure some of the cop haters will think they had it comin'.
    Really, they are true cop haters on here or is that your perception of their feelings on police abuse and lack thereof their heroics? I don't hate police in the least they're needed to keep order and peace. What I dislike is at times or many times is their abuse of the power they've sworn to serve the public. I praise them when come to the rescue of the public and I'll certainly chastise them they abuse the people they're supposed to serve.

    Peace
    There are cop haters here. If you felt I was speaking directly at you, I wasnt. Did you feel I directed that at you?

    I did thumb through the "good cop" thread and in its 4 pages you did post 4 times. Two of the posts were praising and the other 2 posts were saying what cops shouldn't do. But that's not really relevant here.
    No I did think anything you've spoken about "cop haters" on here was directed towards me. I have said nothing for that reasoning to be directed towards me.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,761
    I'm the furthest from a cop hater my brother in law retired a NYPD great guy ....
    Do i like abusive cops no
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Last-12-Exit said:

    #copslivesmatter

    If you kill a cop capital offense. If a black person is killed few care and is covered up. No comparison. Same with all lives matter. Some do matter more than others.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    callen said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    #copslivesmatter

    If you kill a cop capital offense. If a black person is killed few care and is covered up. No comparison. Same with all lives matter. Some do matter more than others.
    This has been the case since the dawn of time. It has nothing to do with race. The whole #______ movement is silly to me. I was being sarcastic. I don't know why we have to put a pound sign in front of something to make it matter.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    #copslivesmatter

    If you kill a cop capital offense. If a black person is killed few care and is covered up. No comparison. Same with all lives matter. Some do matter more than others.
    This has been the case since the dawn of time. It has nothing to do with race. The whole #______ movement is silly to me. I was being sarcastic. I don't know why we have to put a pound sign in front of something to make it matter.
    Oh ok. Yeah with you on the hashtag BS.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    callen said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    #copslivesmatter

    If you kill a cop capital offense. If a black person is killed few care and is covered up. No comparison. Same with all lives matter. Some do matter more than others.
    This has been the case since the dawn of time. It has nothing to do with race. The whole #______ movement is silly to me. I was being sarcastic. I don't know why we have to put a pound sign in front of something to make it matter.
    Oh ok. Yeah with you on the hashtag BS.
    Absolutely, particularly when people put paragraph long lists of hashtags
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