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This is an unfunny version of the Dave Chappelle bit, "When keeping it real goes wrong"
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Turning off the music, putting out her cigarette, shutting the vehicle off, and things like that are very reasonable requests. The ones you've tried to compare his request to are silly. Why do that?rgambs said:
Whoa, SHE was provoking? HE was provoking her and she should have remained in control, but she was clearly baited.Last-12-Exit said:
His own governing body is in job saving mode. I don't think this cop should be fired, but he will be. There was no abuse, no shooting, no brutality. I think the lady should have just put her cigarette out. Period. All she was doing was provoking. She deserved what she got.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
I agree it's never a good idea to defiantly disregard a police officer and am in no way blaming the officer for what happened in her cell, but don't you think it could have been avoided by just giving her the ticket and sending her on her way? His own governing body has already stated he didn't act in a professional manner and didn't follow their procedures. It should have never came to that point.Last-12-Exit said:When will people just listen to what the fucking cops tell them? Put the cigarette out. That's not a hard thing to do. Stupidity.
He was asking her to perform an action that was clearly outside of the law and his rights to police.
If he had asked her to take her blouse off or touch herself should she do that as well?
A cop doesn't have to breathe in someone's smoke as he performs his duties just like the clerk doesn't at the grocery store. The cop also doesn't have to worry about extreme scenarios such as an angry individual placing the cigarette out on his arm."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Oh yeah driving in Florida is a whole adventure in itself. Lotsa patience with the white haired folks in the caddies. Ha.rr165892 said:We have they opposite problem in South Florida.People leave the blinker on and you never know what they are doing.
I heard some talk this morning that the officer can defend the cigarette request by stating he felt threatened and was concerned driver could flick the cig at him.
Take the ticket,calm down and then if you were unfairly treated get a lawyer and fight it.I don't get what the hell people are thinking.
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A reasonable request, sure it is. An arrestable offense? Of course not. This is a classic power trip, he had just as much opportunity to be reasonable and calm as she did. This officer assaulted the woman because she disrespected him. If I disrespect you do you have the right to assault me??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Turning off the music, putting out her cigarette, shutting the vehicle off, and things like that are very reasonable requests. The ones you've tried to compare his request to are silly. Why do that?rgambs said:
Whoa, SHE was provoking? HE was provoking her and she should have remained in control, but she was clearly baited.Last-12-Exit said:
His own governing body is in job saving mode. I don't think this cop should be fired, but he will be. There was no abuse, no shooting, no brutality. I think the lady should have just put her cigarette out. Period. All she was doing was provoking. She deserved what she got.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
I agree it's never a good idea to defiantly disregard a police officer and am in no way blaming the officer for what happened in her cell, but don't you think it could have been avoided by just giving her the ticket and sending her on her way? His own governing body has already stated he didn't act in a professional manner and didn't follow their procedures. It should have never came to that point.Last-12-Exit said:When will people just listen to what the fucking cops tell them? Put the cigarette out. That's not a hard thing to do. Stupidity.
He was asking her to perform an action that was clearly outside of the law and his rights to police.
If he had asked her to take her blouse off or touch herself should she do that as well?
A cop doesn't have to breathe in someone's smoke as he performs his duties just like the clerk doesn't at the grocery store. The cop also doesn't have to worry about extreme scenarios such as an angry individual placing the cigarette out on his arm.
Sometimes it seems like some people are desperate to give their rights away to anyone in a uniform.Post edited by rgambs onMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Why should I have to waive my rights and then pay for a lawyer to try and get recompense from a biased system? That isn't freedom at all.rr165892 said:We have they opposite problem in South Florida.People leave the blinker on and you never know what they are doing.
I heard some talk this morning that the officer can defend the cigarette request by stating he felt threatened and was concerned driver could flick the cig at him.
Take the ticket,calm down and then if you were unfairly treated get a lawyer and fight it.I don't get what the hell people are thinking.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sandra-bland-dashcam-arrest-video-released-by-texas-police-1.3162790
Why was she in jail for 3 days before her death?
Also, if anyone dies in police custody there should be a detailed investigation....that's a no brainer.0 -
I didn't see an assault. I saw a woman resist arrest. Maybe he wasn't going to arrest her when he asked her to get out of the car. Maybe it wasn't until she disobeyed a third request from the cop before he decided to arrest her.rgambs said:
A reasonable request, sure it is. An arrestable offense? Of course not. This is a classic power trip, he had just as much opportunity to be reasonable and calm as she did. This officer assaulted the woman because she disrespected him. If I disrespect you do you have the right to assault me??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Turning off the music, putting out her cigarette, shutting the vehicle off, and things like that are very reasonable requests. The ones you've tried to compare his request to are silly. Why do that?rgambs said:
Whoa, SHE was provoking? HE was provoking her and she should have remained in control, but she was clearly baited.Last-12-Exit said:
His own governing body is in job saving mode. I don't think this cop should be fired, but he will be. There was no abuse, no shooting, no brutality. I think the lady should have just put her cigarette out. Period. All she was doing was provoking. She deserved what she got.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
I agree it's never a good idea to defiantly disregard a police officer and am in no way blaming the officer for what happened in her cell, but don't you think it could have been avoided by just giving her the ticket and sending her on her way? His own governing body has already stated he didn't act in a professional manner and didn't follow their procedures. It should have never came to that point.Last-12-Exit said:When will people just listen to what the fucking cops tell them? Put the cigarette out. That's not a hard thing to do. Stupidity.
He was asking her to perform an action that was clearly outside of the law and his rights to police.
If he had asked her to take her blouse off or touch herself should she do that as well?
A cop doesn't have to breathe in someone's smoke as he performs his duties just like the clerk doesn't at the grocery store. The cop also doesn't have to worry about extreme scenarios such as an angry individual placing the cigarette out on his arm.
Sometimes it seems like some people are desperate to give their rights away to anyone in a uniform.0 -
Not my point.rgambs said:
Why should I have to waive my rights and then pay for a lawyer to try and get recompense from a biased system? That isn't freedom at all.rr165892 said:We have they opposite problem in South Florida.People leave the blinker on and you never know what they are doing.
I heard some talk this morning that the officer can defend the cigarette request by stating he felt threatened and was concerned driver could flick the cig at him.
Take the ticket,calm down and then if you were unfairly treated get a lawyer and fight it.I don't get what the hell people are thinking.
Nothing good comes from arguing with law enforcement roadside.The Cops have a lot of discretionary tolerances and if your an asshole you can get thrown in jail for something minor.Not worth it in my opinion.Shut your fucking mouth,don't be a rude belligerent dick and when you leave with a ticket only and no jail time,file a complaint or report to his supervisor,go to the press,meet with an attorney,Pickett in front of police station.You have all that freedom to peruse "justice" if your not locked in the pokey.0 -
He didn't assault her.She was being an asshole.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't see an assault. I saw a woman resist arrest. Maybe he wasn't going to arrest her when he asked her to get out of the car. Maybe it wasn't until she disobeyed a third request from the cop before he decided to arrest her.rgambs said:
A reasonable request, sure it is. An arrestable offense? Of course not. This is a classic power trip, he had just as much opportunity to be reasonable and calm as she did. This officer assaulted the woman because she disrespected him. If I disrespect you do you have the right to assault me??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Turning off the music, putting out her cigarette, shutting the vehicle off, and things like that are very reasonable requests. The ones you've tried to compare his request to are silly. Why do that?rgambs said:
Whoa, SHE was provoking? HE was provoking her and she should have remained in control, but she was clearly baited.Last-12-Exit said:
His own governing body is in job saving mode. I don't think this cop should be fired, but he will be. There was no abuse, no shooting, no brutality. I think the lady should have just put her cigarette out. Period. All she was doing was provoking. She deserved what she got.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
I agree it's never a good idea to defiantly disregard a police officer and am in no way blaming the officer for what happened in her cell, but don't you think it could have been avoided by just giving her the ticket and sending her on her way? His own governing body has already stated he didn't act in a professional manner and didn't follow their procedures. It should have never came to that point.Last-12-Exit said:When will people just listen to what the fucking cops tell them? Put the cigarette out. That's not a hard thing to do. Stupidity.
He was asking her to perform an action that was clearly outside of the law and his rights to police.
If he had asked her to take her blouse off or touch herself should she do that as well?
A cop doesn't have to breathe in someone's smoke as he performs his duties just like the clerk doesn't at the grocery store. The cop also doesn't have to worry about extreme scenarios such as an angry individual placing the cigarette out on his arm.
Sometimes it seems like some people are desperate to give their rights away to anyone in a uniform.0 -
Fine Dig,but let's call it an investigation and not jump directly to this has to be a murder.A simple we will look into all evidence and pursue as needed would be fine.But we have DAs who are sooooo afraid to offend certain communities that they now are over reacting.dignin said:http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sandra-bland-dashcam-arrest-video-released-by-texas-police-1.3162790
Why was she in jail for 3 days before her death?
Also, if anyone dies in police custody there should be a detailed investigation....that's a no brainer.0 -
She was in jail for 3 days because she could not afford to post bail or bond or whatever it's called.dignin said:http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sandra-bland-dashcam-arrest-video-released-by-texas-police-1.3162790
Why was she in jail for 3 days before her death?
Also, if anyone dies in police custody there should be a detailed investigation....that's a no brainer.0 -
Caddys,No sir those blue hair,blue blocker wearing,tennis ball antenna driving folks almost all have beige/copper colored Camrys or Hondascallen said:
Oh yeah driving in Florida is a whole adventure in itself. Lotsa patience with the white haired folks in the caddies. Ha.rr165892 said:We have they opposite problem in South Florida.People leave the blinker on and you never know what they are doing.
I heard some talk this morning that the officer can defend the cigarette request by stating he felt threatened and was concerned driver could flick the cig at him.
Take the ticket,calm down and then if you were unfairly treated get a lawyer and fight it.I don't get what the hell people are thinking.0 -
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/angry-man-with-loaded-ar-15-terrifies-bystanders-in-quarrel-with-black-protester-at-confederate-statue/
Interesting comparison....Bland is dead, this dude gets adviceRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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That's all fair rr. But I don't think the families requests are unreasonable. I would be asking the same questions as I'm sure you would be if one of your loved ones died while in custody.rr165892 said:
Fine Dig,but let's call it an investigation and not jump directly to this has to be a murder.A simple we will look into all evidence and pursue as needed would be fine.dignin said:http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sandra-bland-dashcam-arrest-video-released-by-texas-police-1.3162790
Why was she in jail for 3 days before her death?
Also, if anyone dies in police custody there should be a detailed investigation....that's a no brainer.
Bland's family has called for an independent autopsy and involvement by the U.S. Department of Justice in the probe of her death.
"I am angry because of the way she died," Bland's mother, Geneva Reed-Veal, said at the memorial. "All I want to know is why."
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That is nuts. I am in disbelief.Gern Blansten said:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/angry-man-with-loaded-ar-15-terrifies-bystanders-in-quarrel-with-black-protester-at-confederate-statue/
Interesting comparison....Bland is dead, this dude gets advice
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So if a person basically tells a copy to go f**k themselves when the cop asks them to do something that is reasonable... the cop should go f**k themselves?rgambs said:
A reasonable request, sure it is. An arrestable offense? Of course not. This is a classic power trip, he had just as much opportunity to be reasonable and calm as she did. This officer assaulted the woman because she disrespected him. If I disrespect you do you have the right to assault me??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Turning off the music, putting out her cigarette, shutting the vehicle off, and things like that are very reasonable requests. The ones you've tried to compare his request to are silly. Why do that?rgambs said:
Whoa, SHE was provoking? HE was provoking her and she should have remained in control, but she was clearly baited.Last-12-Exit said:
His own governing body is in job saving mode. I don't think this cop should be fired, but he will be. There was no abuse, no shooting, no brutality. I think the lady should have just put her cigarette out. Period. All she was doing was provoking. She deserved what she got.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
I agree it's never a good idea to defiantly disregard a police officer and am in no way blaming the officer for what happened in her cell, but don't you think it could have been avoided by just giving her the ticket and sending her on her way? His own governing body has already stated he didn't act in a professional manner and didn't follow their procedures. It should have never came to that point.Last-12-Exit said:When will people just listen to what the fucking cops tell them? Put the cigarette out. That's not a hard thing to do. Stupidity.
He was asking her to perform an action that was clearly outside of the law and his rights to police.
If he had asked her to take her blouse off or touch herself should she do that as well?
A cop doesn't have to breathe in someone's smoke as he performs his duties just like the clerk doesn't at the grocery store. The cop also doesn't have to worry about extreme scenarios such as an angry individual placing the cigarette out on his arm.
Sometimes it seems like some people are desperate to give their rights away to anyone in a uniform.
A colleague got upset when he was denied service at a local establishment. Cops were called. He became indignant. He ended up in jail. Nobody there was saying, "Geezuz what a bunch of dicks. Why couldn't he have gotten another beer? And jail is a little extreme dontcha think?" People were saying, "What a f**king idiot."
He made requests. She became indignant and disrespectful. The cop lost patience. She ended up in jail. What she chose to do in jail is on her unless it can be definitively proven otherwise.
Sometimes it seems like some people feel cops have no authority whatsoever. We have given them this authority, RG. And having said that... we need to respect the authority we have given them. Any questionable behaviours on the part of law enforcement in this case came after this woman acted like an idiot.
At the time being, this unfortunate incident is her doing. If a rightful investigation proves otherwise, we can say something differently. I doubt that will happen- I'm not inclined to think Texas jail guards hung this woman. If I was, I would be no different than those people who- routinely getting slammed for it- think Obama is trying to get their guns. Foolish."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
This speaks to the absurdity of open carry.Gern Blansten said:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/angry-man-with-loaded-ar-15-terrifies-bystanders-in-quarrel-with-black-protester-at-confederate-statue/
Interesting comparison....Bland is dead, this dude gets advice
Exactly how do these situations compare?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I don't see the comparison either. But those cops should be investigated for not arresting......ohhhhhhh. I see what you did here.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
This speaks to the absurdity of open carry.Gern Blansten said:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/angry-man-with-loaded-ar-15-terrifies-bystanders-in-quarrel-with-black-protester-at-confederate-statue/
Interesting comparison....Bland is dead, this dude gets advice
Exactly how do these situations compare?
Still doesn't compare.0 -
Both are confrontations with Texas police.
I guess you're right...the lady with the cigarette is dead. The dude with the assault rifle isn't. No comparison at all.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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There was no confrontation with the police in the example you presented. The police were called to a scene and the stupid kid had enough sense to be respectful- even though he was doing nothing illegal by counter-protesting with his assault rifle.Gern Blansten said:Both are confrontations with Texas police.
I guess you're right...the lady with the cigarette is dead. The dude with the assault rifle isn't. No comparison at all.
So... good try. But no."My brain's a good brain!"0
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