9 Dead in Shooting at Black Church in SC

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Don't know if this has been talked about yet.


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    badbrains said:

    Don't know if this has been talked about yet.


    I can only find scant info on these incidences. More serious shit for sure but it seems these attacks are being avoided, overlooked or out right ignored by news media. Bad shit going down, for sure.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    Has the 5th been confirmed? What I have seen is one is still under investigation as a possible electrical fire.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    markymark550 said:

    hedonist said:

    Flag discussion aside for a moment, have to say that this community is fucking amazing. To grieve, to mourn, with such grace, unison and resolution...hats off to them.

    I agree. The Charleston community really banded together in the face of a tragedy (2 tragedies, actually if you include the Walter Scott shooting) that could have easily become the next Ferguson-type situation.

    While it wasn't held at the best location, the Bridge to Peace was pretty inspiring.
    http://www.refinery29.com/2015/06/89531/bridge-to-peace-march-photos
    The real difference is just that a cop didn't shoot these people. If one had, then obviously we'd be seeing a completely different story playing out. Black communities don't just riot and protest whenever a black person is murdered. They riot and protest when the people who are supposed to be protecting them are murdering them instead, with the government's support.
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  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,217
    PJ_Soul said:

    markymark550 said:

    hedonist said:

    Flag discussion aside for a moment, have to say that this community is fucking amazing. To grieve, to mourn, with such grace, unison and resolution...hats off to them.

    I agree. The Charleston community really banded together in the face of a tragedy (2 tragedies, actually if you include the Walter Scott shooting) that could have easily become the next Ferguson-type situation.

    While it wasn't held at the best location, the Bridge to Peace was pretty inspiring.
    http://www.refinery29.com/2015/06/89531/bridge-to-peace-march-photos
    The real difference is just that a cop didn't shoot these people. If one had, then obviously we'd be seeing a completely different story playing out. Black communities don't just riot and protest whenever a black person is murdered. They riot and protest when the people who are supposed to be protecting them are murdering them instead, with the government's support.
    That was exactly the Walter Scott situation though. There was a very real worry that the 2 events occurring so close together would just boil down into one very nasty reaction. Some people tried to combine them together, but the majority of Charleston chose peace, forgiveness, and love.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Another black church burnt down. 6 in 2 weeks.
    Some black rioters burn a CVS and the whole mediasphere explodes on the thugs. 6 black churches burnt down and it's crickets.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited July 2015
    rgambs said:

    Another black church burnt down. 6 in 2 weeks.
    Some black rioters burn a CVS and the whole mediasphere explodes on the thugs. 6 black churches burnt down and it's crickets.

    They are still investigating this fire. A line of severe storms ripped through this area just prior to the fire being reported. Lightning could have started this. Here is the lightning strike map for the area yesterday evening.

    image

    Never mind. I don't know why it won't come up.
    Post edited by Last-12-Exit on
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Early official reports are saying this was not arson.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Early official reports are saying this was not arson.

    Still though... a lot of coincidence, eh?
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Early official reports are saying this was not arson.

    Still though... a lot of coincidence, eh?
    Sure. But if that picture I tried to post would have came up, you would have saw thousands of lightning strikes within 30 miles of that church.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    God strikes churches with lightning???? Shame c
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Early official reports are saying this was not arson.

    Still though... a lot of coincidence, eh?
    Sure. But if that picture I tried to post would have came up, you would have saw thousands of lightning strikes within 30 miles of that church.
    I'm not doubting you, man.

    As much as I counter RG at times, he's raised a legitimate point that is certainly worth considering.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    callen said:

    God strikes churches with lightning???? Shame c

    God must support the Confederate flag. ;)
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Aren't there several that HAVE been ruled arson? I will look it up later if nobody beats me to it.
    So sad, the violence in the world.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rgambs said:

    Aren't there several that HAVE been ruled arson? I will look it up later if nobody beats me to it.
    So sad, the violence in the world.

    I know at least one has been ruled arson.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    On average at least 1 house of worship burns down every day in America.
    A good percentage are insurance related arson.
    Some are lightning
    Some are electrical
    A small percentage are hatred related arson
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    God strikes churches with lightning???? Shame c

    God must support the Confederate flag. ;)
    Maybe the correct god is Mormon.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    callen said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    God strikes churches with lightning???? Shame c

    God must support the Confederate flag. ;)
    Maybe the correct god is Mormon.
    I don't think Mormon is the name of the god, I think it's the name of one of their prophets.

    At least that's how it seemed when I saw The Book of Mormon musical in New York, so that's pretty authoritative, right?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Was referring to South Park episode. Paraphrased.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    callen said:

    Was referring to South Park episode. Paraphrased.

    Whoops, sorry, but The Book of Mormon is the same root source as South Park anyway, so I get points for that...
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