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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    If you read back in the posts, I am not one of the people who feels it is doomsday because of the NDP. I am willing to let them govern. (What choice do I have)
    It will be an interesting social experiment, however, if history tells us anything.... It will be ugly.

    Sweden did Avert a crisis in the 90s. Check your facts. It is bound to happen again. Listen, the Scandinavians are happy, good for them. They are neutral. Good for them.
    What are they going to do now that Putin is poking around up there. Dollars to doughnuts NATO will save their asses.

    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.

    Amazing that you remember Klein and all he did for this province. Admittedly he was in power two terms too long, but all our prosperity began under his leadership.

    Anyways, socialism costs money. Let us see where Notley's Crew can find it. The NDP has traditionally spent like drunken sailors, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

    I'm lucky, have an excellent job in a regulated industry. I was a consultant for 7 years, but I saw the writing on the wall. NDP was going to win an election, I was going to head for the utilities and join a union. Lol

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    1ThoughtKnown said:



    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.



    Haha, going to the tired "if you don't like it here you should move". Is that all you got? Blind flag waving nationalism does nothing to improve the country you live in. It makes you part of the problem. A true patriot strives for a better country, he doesn't rest on his laurels. We do things better here than other countries and in other countries, they do things better than us.

    You should be embarrassed by our countries environmental record for one (we are quickly becoming a world wide pariah), our treatment of first nations, the widening gap between rich and poor.....the list is long my friend. But hey, things are going well for you so all is good right?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:



    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.



    Haha, going to the tired "if you don't like it here you should move". Is that all you got? Blind flag waving nationalism does nothing to improve the country you live in. It makes you part of the problem. A true patriot strives for a better country, he doesn't rest on his laurels. We do things better here than other countries and in other countries, they do things better than us.

    You should be embarrassed by our countries environmental record for one (we are quickly becoming a world wide pariah), our treatment of first nations, the widening gap between rich and poor.....the list is long my friend. But hey, things are going well for you so all is good right?
    A world wide pariah according to who?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:



    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.



    Haha, going to the tired "if you don't like it here you should move". Is that all you got? Blind flag waving nationalism does nothing to improve the country you live in. It makes you part of the problem. A true patriot strives for a better country, he doesn't rest on his laurels. We do things better here than other countries and in other countries, they do things better than us.

    You should be embarrassed by our countries environmental record for one (we are quickly becoming a world wide pariah), our treatment of first nations, the widening gap between rich and poor.....the list is long my friend. But hey, things are going well for you so all is good right?
    A world wide pariah according to who?
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/oil-industry-pushing-for-carbon-tax-in-alberta-1.3083832

    Suncor CEO Steve Williams told a crowd in downtown Calgary on Friday that change is needed in Alberta to improve Canada's global reputation.

    "We're trying to move Canada to a position of leadership, that's not how we are viewed around the world at the moment. We are viewed to be quite the opposite," said Williams.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:



    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.



    Haha, going to the tired "if you don't like it here you should move". Is that all you got? Blind flag waving nationalism does nothing to improve the country you live in. It makes you part of the problem. A true patriot strives for a better country, he doesn't rest on his laurels. We do things better here than other countries and in other countries, they do things better than us.

    You should be embarrassed by our countries environmental record for one (we are quickly becoming a world wide pariah), our treatment of first nations, the widening gap between rich and poor.....the list is long my friend. But hey, things are going well for you so all is good right?
    A world wide pariah according to who?
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/oil-industry-pushing-for-carbon-tax-in-alberta-1.3083832

    Suncor CEO Steve Williams told a crowd in downtown Calgary on Friday that change is needed in Alberta to improve Canada's global reputation.

    "We're trying to move Canada to a position of leadership, that's not how we are viewed around the world at the moment. We are viewed to be quite the opposite," said Williams.
    Again I ask...by who?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    1ThoughtKnown said:



    My opinion of Canada is my own, and it's unfortunate you think my pride in my country is laughable. Maybe you should move to Sweden and I will gladly accept another Filipino or Mexican or any other nationality to come live here and appreciate it. Had no idea you were so hard done by.



    Haha, going to the tired "if you don't like it here you should move". Is that all you got? Blind flag waving nationalism does nothing to improve the country you live in. It makes you part of the problem. A true patriot strives for a better country, he doesn't rest on his laurels. We do things better here than other countries and in other countries, they do things better than us.

    You should be embarrassed by our countries environmental record for one (we are quickly becoming a world wide pariah), our treatment of first nations, the widening gap between rich and poor.....the list is long my friend. But hey, things are going well for you so all is good right?
    A world wide pariah according to who?
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/oil-industry-pushing-for-carbon-tax-in-alberta-1.3083832

    Suncor CEO Steve Williams told a crowd in downtown Calgary on Friday that change is needed in Alberta to improve Canada's global reputation.

    "We're trying to move Canada to a position of leadership, that's not how we are viewed around the world at the moment. We are viewed to be quite the opposite," said Williams.
    Again I ask...by who?
    Reading skills up to snuff? Can it be any clearer? What are you looking for?
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited June 2015
    Dignin, you are a glass half empty person, I get it. You want to change the world, good luck.
    Canada's reputation around the world is far better than you would have other people believe (I know I travel frequently).
    You are embarrassed about our environmental record, I am not. You are pro NDP, a party divided internally along Union and environmental fronts, I am sceptical.
    Suffice it to say, only history will show if your dream socialist utopia will prevail. If history does in fact repeat itself, the outcome will be less than stellar
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Stephen Harper has spent $750 million tax dollars promoting his party in advertising since 2006.

    As if there wasnt enough freaking money wasted at the federal level, my money is spent on his advertising and self promotion?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Stephen Harper has spent $750 million tax dollars promoting his party in advertising since 2006.

    As if there wasnt enough freaking money wasted at the federal level, my money is spent on his advertising and self promotion?

    Also read this today

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-government-cranks-up-polling-in-run-up-to-election-1.3109766

    They only seem to care about staying in power. Out of touch. Which to me indicates they have been in power for too long. But maybe that makes me a glass half full kind of guy.

    Welcome to the thread thirty, interested to hear you're perspectives on things.....and to butt heads. ;)
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    dignin said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Stephen Harper has spent $750 million tax dollars promoting his party in advertising since 2006.

    As if there wasnt enough freaking money wasted at the federal level, my money is spent on his advertising and self promotion?

    Also read this today

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-government-cranks-up-polling-in-run-up-to-election-1.3109766

    They only seem to care about staying in power. Out of touch. Which to me indicates they have been in power for too long. But maybe that makes me a glass half full kind of guy.

    Welcome to the thread thirty, interested to hear you're perspectives on things.....and to butt heads. ;)
    I've been following the thread, but refraining from engaging.

    And we're not too far apart in this one.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Some of these are good ideas

    Trudeau is set to announce that he would introduce electoral reform legislation within 18 months of forming government; it would be based on the recommendations of a special, all-party parliamentary committee mandated to fully and fairly study alternatives to FPTP, including ranked ballots and proportional representation.


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-wants-to-make-voting-easier-but-mandatory-1.3114902
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    ^^^ I'm in favour of reform of the current electoral system but I know that alternatives can be controversial and there are so many potential options that the discussion tends to get mired down. Based on a prior thread, mandatory voting isn't popular, at least within the PJ community. Filing taxes online in a smart form that would autopopulate child tax credits, etc., when the demographic info has been added (e.g. that you have 2 children under 10) might be a better idea than relying on CRA to notify you that you've missed a possible credit.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I agree with you on all points oftenreading. I like the fact that every major party (except the conservatives of course) has electoral reform in their platform now. That is one of my biggest personal concerns in our democracy. Our current system is not serving the majority of Canadians, first past the post has to go.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    ^^^^ Wow, it's been a long time since someone has agreed with me on all points! Where were you when I was at work today?? :smiley:
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Fools hardly differ

    ;)

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    To change direction....
    Currently some of our southern neighbours are having a dispute about a state flag.

    It is interesting that their President does not weigh in on the divisiveness of having two flags.
    In our country some of Quebec wants their own flag and to be separate.
    In their province they have the absolute right to fly their flag only but they don't have the right to not fly the Canadian Flag.

    I can't imagine that the majority of Quebec wants to separate from Canada. Although a referendum is a great way to get the pulse.

    I think we are doing our best to include Quebec as a member of our united country but they need to drop a little English.



  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited June 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    To change direction....
    Currently some of our southern neighbours are having a dispute about a state flag.

    It is interesting that their President does not weigh in on the divisiveness of having two flags.
    In our country some of Quebec wants their own flag and to be separate.
    In their province they have the absolute right to fly their flag only but they don't have the right to not fly the Canadian Flag.

    I can't imagine that the majority of Quebec wants to separate from Canada. Although a referendum is a great way to get the pulse.

    I think we are doing our best to include Quebec as a member of our united country but they need to drop a little English.



    Ugh. They've already had 2 referendums on it. I think that's enough. Those things cost a fortune, and the people have already spoken. Twice. Enough is enough.
    The majority in Quebec are well aware that the federal government continues to buy them off with tax breaks and a good child care program. I don't see why they'd be willing to give that up. If the feds decide to actually start treating the people in Quebec like equal citizens of Canada, maybe another referendum would make sense and and yes side might win.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2015
    The Enhanced Universal Child Care Benefit comes into effect next month meaning a very nice retroactive payment.
    There are some that will still argue that Harper is wrong.
    The minor increase monthly helps a lot.
    Believe it or not.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited July 2015
    I think the child care benefit is really just a bribe. Of course a little extra money helps.... but it ultimately solves absolutely nothing. It doesn't even come close to allowing parents to have affordable child care. It's just not enough to make a difference when day care cost up to $2000 a MONTH for two young children. So what does the child care benefit provide now? Like $100 a month per child? But the pittance that you are happy to get might make you (the universal you - I don't know who you vote for personally PJfan) think you ought to give your vote to the Conservatives, even though the child care system is still horrible for everyone across Canada (beside Quebec, who cost way more to bribe, apparently). I think a common thought among Canadians (and the British) is "well, it could be worse". But that is a terrible philosophy to ride on when it comes to voting for the federal government.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited July 2015
    The government should never assist in child care. Why does everyone want to live in a nanny state?
    People should be adults and take care of themselves and their families and quit whining for a government hand out. The opportunities are endless in this country.

    "Coulda been somethin, cursed the day he let it go". I know it means something else, but to me in 1995 it meant I was wasting my opportunities and I needed to set some goals and BECOME SOMETHING.

    Thanks for that lyric Ed. It really was an inspiration
    Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on
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