I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.
I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.
I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.
I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.
Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??
why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.
it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?
for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.
Headstrong, headstone. Thanks man, you get it. The first paragraph is the answer. If for NO other reason, Our allegiance to the Queen saved my grandfather's life. PJ"soul" is oblivious to that fact.
I guess your allegiance to the Queen didn't save your grandfather's life after all. What's with the quotation marks? I cannot actually believe that you took anything I said as somehow heartless - how totally ridiculous on a few different levels.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything." He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.
An American would not get that treatment. Word.
So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.
According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."
Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:
a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals. A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."
Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!
Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.
So all this has been a tempest in a teapot
Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.
That wasn't the way he told the story, and who is going to dispute their grandfather?
I digress, but having said that, I still don't care whether or not the queen is our head of state. It really doesn't mean anything and we are after all, a parliamentary democracy.
You want to take away French civil law from Quebec? Good luck with that one lol
Ed the Sock was on AM 770 in Calgary today. He had some very interesting political views. Who knew Ed the Sock was still around? He was promoting a new charity to provide socks to the homeless. Apparently the homeless can't understand why people don't donate socks. They get cold in the winter (it's canada for chrissakes).
That wasn't the way he told the story, and who is going to dispute their grandfather?
I digress, but having said that, I still don't care whether or not the queen is our head of state. It really doesn't mean anything and we are after all, a parliamentary democracy.
You want to take away French civil law from Quebec? Good luck with that one lol
Ed the Sock was on AM 770 in Calgary today. He had some very interesting political views. Who knew Ed the Sock was still around? He was promoting a new charity to provide socks to the homeless. Apparently the homeless can't understand why people don't donate socks. They get cold in the winter (it's canada for chrissakes).
I had NO Idea Ed the Sock was still around! that's awesome! I loved it on MuchMusic when he'd do interviews!
So does this article mean the NDP will win?http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/election/liberals-conservatives-in-dead-heat-with-ndp-trailing-nanos-poll-1.2587770 or not? NDP- always spending others money. A lot was spent on a useless campaign by them. Why do NDP supporters consistently think every federal election that "This is the year"! Jack Layton (rip) did no favours for the cheerleading of the Orange Wave. NDP is not fit to run a country and should stick to small minded provincial communities.
My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything." He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.
An American would not get that treatment. Word.
So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.
According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."
Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:
a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals. A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."
Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!
Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.
So all this has been a tempest in a teapot
Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.
By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies). I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen. In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal. He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.
We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.
Anyways...
Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol
My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything." He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.
An American would not get that treatment. Word.
So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.
According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."
Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:
a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals. A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."
Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!
Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.
So all this has been a tempest in a teapot
Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.
By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies). I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen. In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal. He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.
We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.
Anyways...
Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol
We're all happy your grandfather got good care, and no-one expected you to grill the guy with the flashlight in his eyes, but yes, I did check the damn facts and Canadians don't get any special treatment in the UK with respect to health care. Maybe the staff just really liked him.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
You are calling the majority of Canadians dummies then. Reaction in Canada is strong to the NDP stance on this. Thus making the NDP dummed down to what Canada does/does not care about. NDP - All round Dummies at the federal level.
My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything." He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.
An American would not get that treatment. Word.
So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.
According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."
Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:
a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals. A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."
Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!
Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.
So all this has been a tempest in a teapot
Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.
By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies). I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen. In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal. He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.
We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.
Anyways...
Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol
We're all happy your grandfather got good care, and no-one expected you to grill the guy with the flashlight in his eyes, but yes, I did check the damn facts and Canadians don't get any special treatment in the UK with respect to health care. Maybe the staff just really liked him.
Nothing in your statement had anything to do with prescription drugs. In Canada we have to pay for prescription drugs (unless you have insurance but it's. It the gov't paying) but not a Canadian in England. Your facts show the treatment was free, not all the prescription drugs he got until he got home. It's really amazing how on any topic here it seems to be BC ppl vs Alberta. What the hell did we do to you people anyways
My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything." He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.
An American would not get that treatment. Word.
So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.
According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."
Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:
a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals. A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."
Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!
Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.
So all this has been a tempest in a teapot
Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.
By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies). I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen. In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal. He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.
We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.
Anyways...
Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol
We're all happy your grandfather got good care, and no-one expected you to grill the guy with the flashlight in his eyes, but yes, I did check the damn facts and Canadians don't get any special treatment in the UK with respect to health care. Maybe the staff just really liked him.
Nothing in your statement had anything to do with prescription drugs. In Canada we have to pay for prescription drugs (unless you have insurance but it's. It the gov't paying) but not a Canadian in England. Your facts show the treatment was free, not all the prescription drugs he got until he got home. It's really amazing how on any topic here it seems to be BC ppl vs Alberta. What the hell did we do to you people anyways
Oh, I'd be disagreeing with you even if you were from BC - just ask Thirty - but the fact you're from Alberta is just icing on the cake!
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
British Columbia. The afterthought. Canada's Hawaii. Nice place to vacation, but other than that no one cares Maybe if I ever want to join in a riot I'll head to the lower than the lowest mainland.
Elect Elizabeth May again, we all had a good laugh last time
"Mulcair's plan looks 8 or 10' even 20 years ahead. No talk about transit or jobs. I'm going to run deficits to create jobs and improve the economy and lower taxes for the middle class. That is real change"
Who are this genius's political advisors? Any idea how many people in Canada consider themselves middle class? Here is a guy who says "I'm GOING to drag Canada into debt". "I'm going to make future generations pay for their idiot parents and grandparents electing me"
It's unfsthomable to me how anyone could vote for this piece of work. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. People believe in this guy like those televangelists. If a person would send money to those quacks they will probably vote for the Libs. Or the Green Party for that matter.
"Mulcair's plan looks 8 or 10' even 20 years ahead. No talk about transit or jobs. I'm going to run deficits to create jobs and improve the economy and lower taxes for the middle class. That is real change"
Who are this genius's political advisors? Any idea how many people in Canada consider themselves middle class? Here is a guy who says "I'm GOING to drag Canada into debt". "I'm going to make future generations pay for their idiot parents and grandparents electing me"
It's unfsthomable to me how anyone could vote for this piece of work. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. People believe in this guy like those televangelists. If a person would send money to those quacks they will probably vote for the Libs. Or the Green Party for that matter.
Since you brought up political advisers.
This is a very informative and funny podcast I've been listening too for awhile. You may be interested.
^^^^ That video was painful blabber. Two hippies singing with random things being splashed on the screen about Harper. Either this is the Green Party idea of an attack ad or some more ndp views. This video is garbage and does nothing to usurp Harper. Voters better get more creative than this hippie shit. It's for the birds.
^^^ carry on as you will. i don't care! as the end of life on our planet fast approaches your grand children will soon realize the hippies were right... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b_2INr5zHM
^^^ holy. talk about bad video link....LOL OMG fuck it...at least if it's a 3 way tie that assclown harper, aka mister reform party # 1, said he would retire! BU BY MISTER HARPER !! see you on the other-side....you have done enough damage to our fine country. IMO
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What's with the quotation marks? I cannot actually believe that you took anything I said as somehow heartless - how totally ridiculous on a few different levels.
I digress, but having said that, I still don't care whether or not the queen is our head of state.
It really doesn't mean anything and we are after all, a parliamentary democracy.
You want to take away French civil law from Quebec? Good luck with that one lol
Ed the Sock was on AM 770 in Calgary today. He had some very interesting political views.
Who knew Ed the Sock was still around? He was promoting a new charity to provide socks to the homeless. Apparently the homeless can't understand why people don't donate socks. They get cold in the winter (it's canada for chrissakes).
www.headstonesband.com
or not?
NDP- always spending others money. A lot was spent on a useless campaign by them.
Why do NDP supporters consistently think every federal election that "This is the year"!
Jack Layton (rip) did no favours for the cheerleading of the Orange Wave.
NDP is not fit to run a country and should stick to small minded provincial communities.
edit - and for good measure http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/is-quebec-waving-goodbye-to-the-orange-wave/
and the niqab thingy http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-election-2015-niqab-quebec-1.3250028
I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen.
In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal.
He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.
We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.
Anyways...
Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//full-comment/andrew-coyne-to-uncover-or-not-to-uncover-why-the-niqab-issue-is-ridiculous
Reaction in Canada is strong to the NDP stance on this.
Thus making the NDP dummed down to what Canada does/does not care about.
NDP - All round Dummies at the federal level.
Your facts show the treatment was free, not all the prescription drugs he got until he got home.
It's really amazing how on any topic here it seems to be BC ppl vs Alberta. What the hell did we do to you people anyways
Maybe if I ever want to join in a riot I'll head to the lower than the lowest mainland.
Elect Elizabeth May again, we all had a good laugh last time
"Mulcair's plan looks 8 or 10' even 20 years ahead. No talk about transit or jobs. I'm going to run deficits to create jobs and improve the economy and lower taxes for the middle class. That is real change"
Who are this genius's political advisors? Any idea how many people in Canada consider themselves middle class?
Here is a guy who says "I'm GOING to drag Canada into debt". "I'm going to make future generations pay for their idiot parents and grandparents electing me"
It's unfsthomable to me how anyone could vote for this piece of work. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. People believe in this guy like those televangelists. If a person would send money to those quacks they will probably vote for the Libs. Or the Green Party for that matter.
This is a very informative and funny podcast I've been listening too for awhile. You may be interested.
http://thestrategists.ca/
I would recommend it to anyone interested in Canadian politics.
That video was painful blabber. Two hippies singing with random things being splashed on the screen about Harper.
Either this is the Green Party idea of an attack ad or some more ndp views.
This video is garbage and does nothing to usurp Harper.
Voters better get more creative than this hippie shit. It's for the birds.
carry on as you will. i don't care!
as the end of life on our planet fast approaches your grand children will soon realize the hippies were right...
Fuck Harper!
The majority that is going to vote on October 19th.
Here is our daily waffle feed http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ndp-slide-in-poll-appears-to-signal-end-of-three-party-tie/article26629314/?cmpid=rss1&google_editors_picks=true
holy. talk about bad video link....LOL OMG
fuck it...at least if it's a 3 way tie that assclown harper, aka mister reform party # 1, said he would retire!
BU BY MISTER HARPER !!
see you on the other-side....you have done enough damage to our fine country. IMO
What does "mister reform party #1" mean? That was Preston Manning's baby. Harper was one of his closest advisors.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/national/marijuana+infinitely+worse+than+tobacco+harper+says/11412209/story.html
The press can't keep up with my thoughts.