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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    The article in the link that follows offers an interesting perspective on global warming- the notion that what we eat and how we produce and distribute food may be a major driving force of climate change:

    https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/food-farming-and-climate-change-its-bigger-everything-else

    "Industrial agriculture is a key driver in the generation of greenhouse gases (GHGs). Synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, heavy machinery, monocultures, land change, deforestation, refrigeration, waste and transportation are all part of a food system that generates significant emissions and contributes greatly to global climate change. Industrial agricultural practices, from Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) to synthetic fertilizer-intensive corn and soy monocultures, genetically modified to tolerate huge amounts of herbicide, not only contribute considerable amounts of GHGs, but also underpin an inequitable and unhealthy global food system. Modern conventional agriculture is a fossil fuel-based, energy-intensive industry that is aligned with biotech, trade and energy interests, versus farmer and consumers priorities."

    More good reasons to at least reduce meat consumption if not go vegetarian, grow some of our own food, support local economy and support your local small or family-run organic farmer!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Was behind a guy in a beat up white trash pick up with a busted exhaust pipe today.
    He had a NRA sticker in the window,A NOBAMA sticker,A deer head sticker,rebel flag sticker and And "Stop Global Whinning sticker" and one I couldn't read but the word" Tits" was in it.So I'm pretty sure he dosent believe in things like Climate Change.I thought of this thread.I wish I got a pic.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    rr165892 said:

    Was behind a guy in a beat up white trash pick up with a busted exhaust pipe today.
    He had a NRA sticker in the window,A NOBAMA sticker,A deer head sticker,rebel flag sticker and And "Stop Global Whinning sticker" and one I couldn't read but the word" Tits" was in it.So I'm pretty sure he dosent believe in things like Climate Change.I thought of this thread.I wish I got a pic.

    The funny thing is, one of the most progressive women I know has a "No Global Whining" bumper sticker... but she is definitely concerned about global warming. I think what she means is don't just complain, do something!

    Your NRA might be the same guy I saw once with the sticker that says:

    "We'll log the EARTH FIRST!
    Then the rest of the planets!"

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Smellyman said:

    god, guns, gays and war drums have taken over the debacle that is the 21st century republican

    Great recruitment strategy to get some to vote against their interests and help big corporations.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Good News for Earth Day: Solar, Wind Power Becoming Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels

    http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/24/good-news-mother-earth-solar-wind-power-becoming-cheaper-fossil-fuels/
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    backseatLover12 said:

    Good News for Earth Day: Solar, Wind Power Becoming Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels

    http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/24/good-news-mother-earth-solar-wind-power-becoming-cheaper-fossil-fuels/

    Great! And more jobs!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Happy Earth Day from George Carlin

    http://youtu.be/EjmtSkl53h4

  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited April 2015
    More frightening stuff. Five degrees is a big difference. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/22/us/pacific-ocean-blob/
    Post edited by WhatYouTaughtMe on
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    BS44325 said:

    Happy Earth Day from George Carlin

    http://youtu.be/EjmtSkl53h4

    Oh how I love George and always will (sobbed like a kid when he died).

    I agree with him on this issue overall...but the endangered species part - I read this morning that there are five...FIVE...black rhinos (a specific kind which I can't remember at the moment) left on this planet. Due to poaching, not nature.

    And I'm a huge fan of letting nature just do its thing.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    edited April 2015
    Good old Carlin! I'm such a huge fan. I never fully agreed with his take on environmentalism and environmentalists (and I'll bet if someone had told George they fully agreed with everything he said he would probably look them over good and think a minute and then say, "Well, you look smart but..... AHHH! You're full of shit!") but I TOTALLY love and respect how he challenged us to think more deeply and critically about what we believe, what we think we know. And I think that was always his point, his objective. And even today, if you view Carlin's bit on the environment and you think there is no reason to care about global warming or trashing the earth... well like Paul Westerberg said, "He who laughs first/ didn't get the joke".

    Oh and. P.S., I don't celebrate Earth Day. I'm not even sure when it is. Everyday is Earth Day.
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    I think that Carlin meant every word he said.
    The stoned tree hugging days of saving the planet is long gone.
    We are but mortals on a planet that has plans.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I think that Carlin meant every word he said.
    The stoned tree hugging days of saving the planet is long gone.
    We are but mortals on a planet that has plans.

    That's what I always loved about him - his honesty, PC be damned. Even when I was perching on another branch. He's common-sensical.

    In ways, he reminds me of Dennis Miller.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    Of course Carlin always meant what he said. He worked hard at his craft. The same with climate scientists, marine biologists, ecological and environmental scientists, etc.

    "stoned tree hugging day"... Haha! Now you see why I don't celebrate "Earth Day".
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well, not all "marine biologists".

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    ^^^ Haha! Very good, H!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Ha. "The sea was angry that day my friends..."
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The key to good science is verifiable data and reproducible results. Hopefully after this study we will have more reliable data so that we might better interpret the results


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055646/Did-exaggerated-records-make-global-warming-look-worse-Scientists-investigate-adjusted-temperatures-skewed-data.html
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    BS44325 said:

    The key to good science is verifiable data and reproducible results. Hopefully after this study we will have more reliable data so that we might better interpret the results


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055646/Did-exaggerated-records-make-global-warming-look-worse-Scientists-investigate-adjusted-temperatures-skewed-data.html


    These kinds of claims by highly paid science deniers working for big oil come up on a fairly regular basis.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    The key to good science is verifiable data and reproducible results. Hopefully after this study we will have more reliable data so that we might better interpret the results


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055646/Did-exaggerated-records-make-global-warming-look-worse-Scientists-investigate-adjusted-temperatures-skewed-data.html


    These kinds of claims by highly paid science deniers working for big oil come up on a fairly regular basis.

    Science deniers refuse to look at the data for fear of what they might find. The data clearly has some issues right now. You should not be afraid to find out why.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    The key to good science is verifiable data and reproducible results. Hopefully after this study we will have more reliable data so that we might better interpret the results


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055646/Did-exaggerated-records-make-global-warming-look-worse-Scientists-investigate-adjusted-temperatures-skewed-data.html


    These kinds of claims by highly paid science deniers working for big oil come up on a fairly regular basis.

    Science deniers refuse to look at the data for fear of what they might find. The data clearly has some issues right now. You should not be afraid to find out why.
    "Science deniers"? Oh man, BS, you certainly are relentless, haha!

    Have you read any of the tons of information I've posted from realclimate.org, ucsusa.org, 350.org etc.? Look into who these people are and what their qualifications are. They are non-partisan scientists who are fanatical about one thing: SCIENCE! They don't work for big oil or other corporations that have a lot to lose when global warming is finally recognized in their tiny corner. Nothing has changed. The mis-information coming from corporations is the same and the people they hire are a very small and well paid off percentage of the qualified world science community. Why do you insist on listening to those who are paid off to support climate deniers? Does it make you feel more secure? Does it make you feel less guilty about using more plastic and petroleum? Or do you just enjoy the debate? I'm serious. I don't get it.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











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