Global warming

mickeyrat

absolutely on the solar farms thing. make it part of the building code. The biggest one for me was the final? image of the clean air pics. you can readily see where the coal fired plants are located, Ohio still has them BUT we have mandated exhaust scrubbers to help deal with the acid rain and other nasty stuff. the hot spots to the lower left of the pic are along the ohio river bordering indiana and kentucky.

brianlux

mickeyrat said:

absolutely on the solar farms thing. make it part of the building code. The biggest one for me was the final? image of the clean air pics. you can readily see where the coal fired plants are located, Ohio still has them BUT we have mandated exhaust scrubbers to help deal with the acid rain and other nasty stuff. the hot spots to the lower left of the pic are along the ohio river bordering indiana and kentucky.

That has definitely been a big plus. I remember when acid rain was much worse. I lived in Western NY State during some of the bad years and it was in the news often. There's still room for improvement but it's good to see that has improved greatly! Are you near some of those hot spots?

Smellyman

mickeyrat said:

absolutely on the solar farms thing. make it part of the building code. The biggest one for me was the final? image of the clean air pics. you can readily see where the coal fired plants are located, Ohio still has them BUT we have mandated exhaust scrubbers to help deal with the acid rain and other nasty stuff. the hot spots to the lower left of the pic are along the ohio river bordering indiana and kentucky.

buildings and housing could be darn near self sufficient. Power and water.

brianlux

Smellyman said:

mickeyrat said:

absolutely on the solar farms thing. make it part of the building code. The biggest one for me was the final? image of the clean air pics. you can readily see where the coal fired plants are located, Ohio still has them BUT we have mandated exhaust scrubbers to help deal with the acid rain and other nasty stuff. the hot spots to the lower left of the pic are along the ohio river bordering indiana and kentucky.

buildings and housing could be darn near self sufficient. Power and water.

For sure! Our local food co-op has solar panels over it's parking lot and I'm told the power for entire store comes from them. Summers are hot as hell here but the co-op is always cool and comfortable.

rr165892

Just watched a wonder list on CNN about our beloved Everglades and the impact we have had on that fragile ecosystem.Living here on its doorstep I do hear a lot about it.Some great things are happening bringing back certain aspects of what it was before we started fucking with it.Many species are making comebacks and new and improved ways of fresh water flow to Florida Bay is taking center stage.Im glad many in my state realize just how valuable to our sustainability the Glades are.

riotgrl

I just read this. They are creating wind turbines that are small enough to be attached to residential homes. Couple wind with solar panels on the house and you could have a home that is off grid. Would love to know the cost to install for the average house!

treehugger.com/wind-technology/silent-wind-turbines-could-generate-half-household-energy.html

brianlux

riotgrl said:

I just read this. They are creating wind turbines that are small enough to be attached to residential homes. Couple wind with solar panels on the house and you could have a home that is off grid. Would love to know the cost to install for the average house!

treehugger.com/wind-technology/silent-wind-turbines-could-generate-half-household-energy.html

These look very promising! I'm glad to hear they are quiet. My only question is, are they bird safe?

rr165892

brianlux said:

riotgrl said:

I just read this. They are creating wind turbines that are small enough to be attached to residential homes. Couple wind with solar panels on the house and you could have a home that is off grid. Would love to know the cost to install for the average house!

treehugger.com/wind-technology/silent-wind-turbines-could-generate-half-household-energy.html

These look very promising! I'm glad to hear they are quiet. My only question is, are they bird safe?

Are they hurricane proof?

backseatLover12

riotgrl said:

I just read this. They are creating wind turbines that are small enough to be attached to residential homes. Couple wind with solar panels on the house and you could have a home that is off grid. Would love to know the cost to install for the average house!

treehugger.com/wind-technology/silent-wind-turbines-could-generate-half-household-energy.html

I would totally do this!

backseatLover12

Pope Francis throws the weight of his office behind tackling climate change

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-throws-the-weight-of-his-office-behind-tackling-climate-change/2015/04/15/f245a2fc-e39a-11e4-ae0f-f8c46aa8c3a4_story.html

rr165892

He's a cool Pope.He gets it.

brianlux

backseatLover12 said:

Pope Francis throws the weight of his office behind tackling climate change

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-throws-the-weight-of-his-office-behind-tackling-climate-change/2015/04/15/f245a2fc-e39a-11e4-ae0f-f8c46aa8c3a4_story.html

Excellent! These are bold move on the part of Pop Francis, especially in light of the heat he's getting from Catholic conservatives. If those conservatives would just add a few letters and see themselves as conservationists maybe they too could get on board with what makes sense.

Very glad to see this!

hedonist

"Pop" Francis

jeffbr

I think he's the most interesting pope I've seen in my lifetime, and that's little over 1/2 a century. If he really wants to make an impact on the environment he'd ditch that archaic prohibition on contraception. He did say earlier this year that Catholics don't need to be breeding like rabbits, but unfortunately without contraception, that will be a non-starter. So I'd like to see fewer platitudes, and more doctrinal changes.

backseatLover12

brianlux said:

backseatLover12 said:

Pope Francis throws the weight of his office behind tackling climate change

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-throws-the-weight-of-his-office-behind-tackling-climate-change/2015/04/15/f245a2fc-e39a-11e4-ae0f-f8c46aa8c3a4_story.html

Excellent! These are bold move on the part of Pop Francis, especially in light of the heat he's getting from Catholic conservatives. If those conservatives would just add a few letters and see themselves as conservationists maybe they too could get on board with what makes sense.

Very glad to see this!

Funny you say this, because traditionally, it was the conservatives who were actually on the side of conservation originally, hence their name, conservatives.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-conservative-record-on-environmental-policy

At the turn of the twentieth century, Republicans were among the foremost advocates of governmental intervention for environmental purposes. Teddy Roosevelt believed that government ownership of forest land was necessary to prevent a timber famine and would foster sound ecological stewardship. After World War II, most major environmental laws were adopted with broad bipartisan majorities in Congress. The lion’s share of the nation’s environmental regulatory infrastructure was erected during Republican administrations. Yet over the past several decades, the Republican Party has become increasingly hostile to environmental regulation, on the federal level in particular…

...it was a Republican, Richard M. Nixon, who presided over the birth of the modern environmental regulatory state. He created the EPA by executive order and signed into law more major pieces of environmental legislation than any president before or since. Though his support for environmental measures may have been largely opportunistic, the regulatory architecture erected on Nixon’s watch largely remains in place and continues to provide the foundation for federal environmental regulation to this day.

But Nixon’s support for regulation did not make environmentalism a conservative cause. Largely a reaction to New Deal liberalism, postwar American conservatism was highly suspicious of centralized government authority...

brianlux

backseatLover12 said:

brianlux said:

backseatLover12 said:

Pope Francis throws the weight of his office behind tackling climate change

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-throws-the-weight-of-his-office-behind-tackling-climate-change/2015/04/15/f245a2fc-e39a-11e4-ae0f-f8c46aa8c3a4_story.html

Excellent! These are bold move on the part of Pop Francis, especially in light of the heat he's getting from Catholic conservatives. If those conservatives would just add a few letters and see themselves as conservationists maybe they too could get on board with what makes sense.

Very glad to see this!

Funny you say this, because traditionally, it was the conservatives who were actually on the side of conservation originally, hence their name, conservatives.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-conservative-record-on-environmental-policy

At the turn of the twentieth century, Republicans were among the foremost advocates of governmental intervention for environmental purposes. Teddy Roosevelt believed that government ownership of forest land was necessary to prevent a timber famine and would foster sound ecological stewardship. After World War II, most major environmental laws were adopted with broad bipartisan majorities in Congress. The lion’s share of the nation’s environmental regulatory infrastructure was erected during Republican administrations. Yet over the past several decades, the Republican Party has become increasingly hostile to environmental regulation, on the federal level in particular…

...it was a Republican, Richard M. Nixon, who presided over the birth of the modern environmental regulatory state. He created the EPA by executive order and signed into law more major pieces of environmental legislation than any president before or since. Though his support for environmental measures may have been largely opportunistic, the regulatory architecture erected on Nixon’s watch largely remains in place and continues to provide the foundation for federal environmental regulation to this day.

But Nixon’s support for regulation did not make environmentalism a conservative cause. Largely a reaction to New Deal liberalism, postwar American conservatism was highly suspicious of centralized government authority...

Exactly!

PJ_Soul

Fuck the Pope. He still rejects female clergy and birth control. He's no better than the rest. He's just more talented with the PR.

rr165892

PJ_Soul said:

Fuck the Pope. He still rejects female clergy and birth control. He's no better than the rest. He's just more talented with the PR.

Pj,what I want to know is how you really feel.lol

PJ_Soul

Smellyman

god, guns, gays and war drums have taken over the debacle that is the 21st century republican