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Lol, yes I have ... I'm addicted. Not even sure to believe my ears anymore.buck502000 wrote: »MendozK - you have been spending too much time on the Hoffman Forum
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It's tough being a PJ fan and a person who enjoys hi-fi. I love PJ's music, but everything is brick walled and a victim of the loudness war.
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snootchie bootchies, MedozK. I hear you. it can drive you insane sometimes.
also, buck
I agree... especially the remaster/reissues... they were painful to listen to.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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I have an OP of Nevermind and the ORG. The ORG is probably the best pressing of that record.
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buck502000 wrote: »
Good question. He probably mixed it, but you kinda have to blame the band too for approving such a dreadful master. I mean they are vinyl fans, esp Ed. They have to know what good analog/hi-fi sounds like. Or maybe they were targeting the Digital market???? don't know why. seems like most PJ fans appreciate good hi-fi.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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buck502000 wrote: »
Good question. He probably mixed it, but you kinda have to blame the band too for approving such a dreadful master. I mean they are vinyl fans, esp Ed. They have to know what good analog/hi-fi sounds like. Or maybe they were targeting the Digital market???? don't know why. seems like most PJ fans appreciate good hi-fi.
Speaking as a child of the 90's
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buck502000 wrote: »buck502000 wrote: »
Good question. He probably mixed it, but you kinda have to blame the band too for approving such a dreadful master. I mean they are vinyl fans, esp Ed. They have to know what good analog/hi-fi sounds like. Or maybe they were targeting the Digital market???? don't know why. seems like most PJ fans appreciate good hi-fi.
Speaking as a child of the 90's) livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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I have the 2009 ORG pressing and it does sound amazing. I don't have a remaster to A/B, but I have compared other DR7s to DR12s and there is a significant difference. If you can find the original 1991 Nevermind CD, it has a DR12 also. You could probably compare that.
Analyzed: Nirvana / Nevermind (2011 Remastered Vinyl)
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR6 -0.08 dB -7.82 dB 5:01 01-Smells Like Teen Spirit
DR7 -0.08 dB -7.77 dB 4:15 02-In Bloom
DR7 -0.09 dB -8.37 dB 3:39 03-Come As You Are
DR7 -0.08 dB -7.72 dB 3:04 04-Breed
DR7 -0.09 dB -8.98 dB 4:17 05-Lithium
DR8 -0.10 dB -10.24 dB 2:57 06-Polly
DR6 -0.09 dB -7.97 dB 2:23 07-Territorial Pissings
DR7 -0.09 dB -7.73 dB 3:44 08-Drain You
DR7 -0.09 dB -7.80 dB 2:37 09-Lounge Act
DR7 -0.09 dB -7.63 dB 3:32 10-Stay Away
DR6 -0.05 dB -7.49 dB 3:16 11-On A Plain
DR8 -0.10 dB -9.98 dB 3:55 12-Something In The Way
DR7 -0.07 dB -8.62 dB 6:43 13-Endless, Nameless
Number of tracks: 13
Official DR value: DR7
Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 3137 kbps
Codec: ALAC
Analyzed: Nirvana / Nevermind (2009 ORG Vinyl)
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR12 -7.79 dB -21.69 dB 5:00 01-Smells Like Teen Spirit
DR12 -3.97 dB -21.49 dB 4:14 02-In Bloom
DR13 -6.80 dB -23.73 dB 3:41 03-Come As You Are
DR13 -5.62 dB -22.37 dB 3:04 04-Breed
DR12 -7.10 dB -22.67 dB 4:16 05-Lithium
DR11 -11.05 dB -24.90 dB 2:58 06-Polly
DR12 -6.26 dB -21.59 dB 2:23 07-Territorial Pissings
DR13 -7.93 dB -21.80 dB 3:44 08-Drain You
DR12 -5.93 dB -21.87 dB 2:37 09-Lounge Act
DR12 -7.27 dB -21.23 dB 3:31 10-Stay Away
DR14 -5.44 dB -22.07 dB 3:16 11-On A Plain
DR13 -7.59 dB -24.51 dB 3:55 12-Something In The Way
Number of tracks: 12
Official DR value: DR12
Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 4616 kbps
Codec: FLAC
Analyzed: Nirvana / Nevermind (1991 CD)
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
DR11 -0.20 dB -12.83 dB 5:02 01-Smells Like Teen Spirit
DR11 -0.20 dB -12.23 dB 4:15 02-In Bloom
DR12 -0.20 dB -13.62 dB 3:39 03-Come as You Are
DR11 -0.20 dB -12.72 dB 3:04 04-Breed
DR11 -0.20 dB -12.64 dB 4:17 05-Lithium
DR10 -1.40 dB -13.59 dB 2:57 06-Polly
DR12 -0.20 dB -12.93 dB 2:23 07-Territorial Pissings
DR12 -0.20 dB -12.73 dB 3:44 08-Drain You
DR12 -0.72 dB -13.27 dB 2:37 09-Lounge Act
DR12 -0.20 dB -12.61 dB 3:33 10-Stay Away
DR12 -0.20 dB -13.44 dB 3:16 11-On a Plain
DR13 -0.20 dB -17.30 dB 20:35 12-Something in the Way / Endless, Nameless
Number of tracks: 12
Official DR value: DR12
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1411 kbps
Codec: PCM
Well I can't deny the evidence MedozK, that's really interesting to see sound in those Dynamic Range numbers. I'll definitely have to track down a copy of that 2009 Org Nevermind and do a comparison, really interested to find out how awesome that record sounds. Thanks for the info dude!
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Listened to the remasters once and that was it. Very disappointing. Hopefully they don't do the same brickwalling to No Code or Yield...that would be TRAGIC!snootchie bootchies, MedozK. I hear you. it can drive you insane sometimes.
also, buck
I agree... especially the remaster/reissues... they were painful to listen to.
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Cut by Grundman - pressed at Pallas B-)0
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I wouldn't mind if both of them had a little more bite and clarity/separation. And there's a lushness with the music, especially with Yield that I don't think is expressed at much as it could be with a really great master.
I try to check the sound quality with reviews and such and it's always reassuring to backtrack through your collection and you read positive reviews of a record you think is great sounding. Luckily, most of the bands I'm into put out quality stuff. Sadly, and I don't think it's horrible, I think PJ is on the lower end of the scale as far as whats in my collection.Post edited by DewieCox on0 -
Listened to the remasters once and that was it. Very disappointing. Hopefully they don't do the same brickwalling to No Code or Yield...that would be TRAGIC!snootchie bootchies, MedozK. I hear you. it can drive you insane sometimes.
also, buck
I agree... especially the remaster/reissues... they were painful to listen to.
Yup. I basically never play Ten and Vs. since I only have the reissues and they sound like shit. They are just missing something - the regular versions as well as the remasters. There is no oomf to them. Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I have an original copy of Ten which sounds great compared to the reissue. I have a reissue of Vitalogy, but my local record store has a used original (single disc), you think I should see if it's still there if theres a marked difference in sound quality?A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0
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The original Vitalogy, i think, sounds better and you don't have to flip a needless second record. I wouldn't pay over $50 for the original.
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.0 -
I called them up and they've put it aside for me. NZ$59 which is about US$50.The original Vitalogy, i think, sounds better and you don't have to flip a needless second record. I wouldn't pay over $50 for the original.
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.
A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0 -
Good idea. WELL worth it. The reissue stinks.
I called them up and they've put it aside for me. NZ$59 which is about US$50.The original Vitalogy, i think, sounds better and you don't have to flip a needless second record. I wouldn't pay over $50 for the original.
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
The original Vitalogy, i think, sounds better and you don't have to flip a needless second record. I wouldn't pay over $50 for the original.
No question on Ten, I think the original Ten sounds WAY better than the remaster.
A local store had an original Vitalogy on sale a few months ago for $50. I had recently bought the remastered version so I didn't buy it. At the time it felt like the right decision. I was trying not to waste money. Now.........it's been bugging me for weeks that I let that go.0 -
I've never really done a side-by-side comparison of Ten/Vs./Vitalogy since the original pressings I have I bought used as a bundle and they aren't in the most tip-top of quality and are somewhat noisy. I do however really like the different mix of Ten so I play that record more.0
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