Back to black version of Nirvana unplugged - awful.
It was really dirty when I took the vinyl out, no new vinyl should ever be in that condition. Bad pressing too, doesn't play well even after I gave it a good clean.
2010: London 2012: Manchester I, Manchester II, Manchester (EV) 2014: Milan, Leeds, Milton Keynes 2017: London II (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I, London I, Prague, London II 2019: London (EV) 2022: London I, London II, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam
Back to black version of Nirvana unplugged - awful.
It was really dirty when I took the vinyl out, no new vinyl should ever be in that condition. Bad pressing too, doesn't play well even after I gave it a good clean.
That sucks, can you take it back? I have an ORG Music pressing from 2011, sounds fucking good..
Back to black version of Nirvana unplugged - awful.
It was really dirty when I took the vinyl out, no new vinyl should ever be in that condition. Bad pressing too, doesn't play well even after I gave it a good clean.
That sucks, can you take it back? I have an ORG Music pressing from 2011, sounds fucking good..
Yeah bud :(I have a Simply Vinyl press and it's incredible.
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Ray Lamontagne-Ouroboros...my first foray into his material. Really nice musically and a lot of atmosphere. Perfect type of music for vinyl and really well done
Dave Mason-Alone Together...bought this on a whim. Had good reviews and its $10 or less at various online shops. A legit audiophile level release, for that price? I'd buy about anything for the $6 I paid at acousticsounds.
I couldn't find the thread for the reissue, but man does the Superunknown reissue sound awful. Mine is all tinny and a bit brick walled. Awful.
I think it sounds really good.
Yeah that's interesting you say that Tim, Usually I find you are spot on about these type of things. My copy sounds real good, like very good. Of course I don't have an original to compare and I haven't listened to the cd in years.
I couldn't find the thread for the reissue, but man does the Superunknown reissue sound awful. Mine is all tinny and a bit brick walled. Awful.
I think it sounds really good.
Yeah that's interesting you say that Tim, Usually I find you are spot on about these type of things. My copy sounds real good, like very good. Of course I don't have an original to compare and I haven't listened to the cd in years.
I have a clear copy that sounds as good if not better than my cd from 1994.
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Yeah, I threw it on yesterday and was surprised because I thought when it came out it was sounded good and posted about it (hence me looking for the original thread). Unless my cart is out of alignment, i thought it sounded awful.
Yeah, I just did a quick test. I think its brickwalled to shit. The vinyl itself is perfect. Flat quiet. But Matts cymbals are all tinney and the guitar crunch just gets crackly which I believe are signs of brickwalling.
Too double check I took my test LPs (Miles Davis - Kind of Blue mono pressing and Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup duophonic pressing) and they sound crisp as fuck. So its not my setup.
Yeah, I've stayed away from Superunknown for the mastering issues I've read about in most reviews. I don't think King Animal is anything special either. Haven't listened to Telephantasm much...maybe I'll queue it up and check it out.
Sometimes when you want something to sound good, that loudness will work, but then later you revisit the same album a lot of the shortcomings really show up. It's human nature to listen with your eyes almost as much as your ears.
There's a pressing from 2004(320 in the dead wax) that supposedly sounds the best. All the others seem to be a pressing of the cd master and that wouldn't bode well for the 2014 reissue.
Shame that they didn't do it up right every time. They took the steps to make an all analog pressing, then skipped the last step.
No....plenty of other great sounding records for the money and Soundgarden isn't a band I reach for real often. If it was more reasonably priced, I might take a chance on it. I've paid enough for average to poor sounding vinyl for my lifetime. Ive put a lot of stock in online reviews, more recently and making informed decisions has done wonders for my vinyl collection.
I couldn't find the thread for the reissue, but man does the Superunknown reissue sound awful. Mine is all tinny and a bit brick walled. Awful.
I think it sounds really good.
Yeah that's interesting you say that Tim, Usually I find you are spot on about these type of things. My copy sounds real good, like very good. Of course I don't have an original to compare and I haven't listened to the cd in years.
If it sounds great to your ears, then go with it. Don't sweat my opinion.
I couldn't find the thread for the reissue, but man does the Superunknown reissue sound awful. Mine is all tinny and a bit brick walled. Awful.
I think it sounds really good.
Yeah that's interesting you say that Tim, Usually I find you are spot on about these type of things. My copy sounds real good, like very good. Of course I don't have an original to compare and I haven't listened to the cd in years.
If it sounds great to your ears, then go with it. Don't sweat my opinion.
Oh no, totally. If i listened to all the opinions I have heard about records on various forums there would be a lot of records I didn't own that I really enjoy. Records are very subjective and are dependent on so many different issues. Like I said you are usually spot on in what you say about various records and pressings so I was just surprised.
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I thought the Superunknown box from RSD from a few years back sounded pretty good to me - maybe time for a re-visit
I have the 2014 reissue of Superunknown too, I like it, sounds pretty good to these ears, nice separation of instruments, just different. But, if you're used to the sound of the original CD like me which sounded perfect, then the vinyl version is distinctly different. Seems the bass is up more in the mix and the vocals too on the last reissue, which means the guitars and drums are pushed back a bit, so different, but still good. And, much better than a brand new copy I brought off Ebay about 5 years ago that I later found out was a bootleg, sounded absolutely terrible.
Yeah, I just did a quick test. I think its brickwalled to shit. The vinyl itself is perfect. Flat quiet. But Matts cymbals are all tinney and the guitar crunch just gets crackly which I believe are signs of brickwalling.
Too double check I took my test LPs (Miles Davis - Kind of Blue mono pressing and Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup duophonic pressing) and they sound crisp as fuck. So its not my setup.
Shitty. I never bought it because I thought they overpriced it and I was mad about it, lol. I did get that 10" Superunknown RSD boxset though, and luckily that sounds very good (despite the utterly ridiculous remix of Spoonman that's included on it, hahaha). It also has the worst packaging of any boxset i have ever seen. I feel like it wouldn't have been too much worse if it had been made of napkins, lol.
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Massive Attack - Heligoland. This record sounds absolutely amazing, so much sonic depth, bass and vocals are so clear and distinctive, the album is synth heavy of course too. This comes with a couple of remix's of the album tracks that sound fantastic as a bonus.
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
Not being elitist and I'm not doubting you, but more curious. Equipment does make a difference. Can you share what your TT, amp and speakers?
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
Not being elitist and I'm not doubting you, but more curious. Equipment does make a difference. Can you share what your TT, amp and speakers?
When I did my test I used
Black Ortofon Cartridge Acry-lit platter Project speed box Project debut 2 turntable Marantz amp Monster cable high performance bi wire Bowers and Wilkens tower speakers
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/21/9 -Vancouver,B.C-Rogers Arena-12/4/13
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
Not being elitist and I'm not doubting you, but more curious. Equipment does make a difference. Can you share what your TT, amp and speakers?
When I did my test I used
Black Ortofon Cartridge Acry-lit platter Project speed box Project debut 2 turntable Marantz amp Monster cable high performance bi wire Bowers and Wilkens tower speakers
That's a nice setup. Which B&W's? Your setup is close to mine, although mine are bi-amped rather than bi-wire... still not sure it makes a big difference.. I'm using 683 S2.
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
Not being elitist and I'm not doubting you, but more curious. Equipment does make a difference. Can you share what your TT, amp and speakers?
When I did my test I used
Black Ortofon Cartridge Acry-lit platter Project speed box Project debut 2 turntable Marantz amp Monster cable high performance bi wire Bowers and Wilkens tower speakers
That's a nice setup. Which B&W's? Your setup is close to mine, although mine are bi-amped rather than bi-wire... still not sure it makes a big difference.. I'm using 683 S2.
Thank you Not sure if the model number but I find out. They are silver and mustard(darker yellow)with wood cases. Heavy to move lol Each tower has 2 subs 8s I think 1 mid 8 I think too yellow with cone 1 amazing tweeter on top
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-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
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It was really dirty when I took the vinyl out, no new vinyl should ever be in that condition. Bad pressing too, doesn't play well even after I gave it a good clean.
2012: Manchester I, Manchester II, Manchester (EV)
2014: Milan, Leeds, Milton Keynes
2017: London II (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I, London I, Prague, London II
2019: London (EV)
2022: London I, London II, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
Dave Mason-Alone Together...bought this on a whim. Had good reviews and its $10 or less at various online shops. A legit audiophile level release, for that price? I'd buy about anything for the $6 I paid at acousticsounds.
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
Too double check I took my test LPs (Miles Davis - Kind of Blue mono pressing and Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup duophonic pressing) and they sound crisp as fuck. So its not my setup.
Sometimes when you want something to sound good, that loudness will work, but then later you revisit the same album a lot of the shortcomings really show up. It's human nature to listen with your eyes almost as much as your ears.
Shame that they didn't do it up right every time. They took the steps to make an all analog pressing, then skipped the last step.
If it sounds great to your ears, then go with it. Don't sweat my opinion.
Neil Young Massey Hall is probably my highest quality. Of course the cd is phenomenal too.
This record sounds absolutely amazing, so much sonic depth, bass and vocals are so clear and distinctive, the album is synth heavy of course too. This comes with a couple of remix's of the album tracks that sound fantastic as a bonus.
I recently brought the Nirvana - Nevermind 2013 Pallas version...
https://www.discogs.com/Nirvana-Nevermind/release/4819086
to compare to my Nevermind 20th Anniversary 4LP edition...
https://www.discogs.com/Nirvana-Nevermind/release/3124989
To my surprise I could not hear any discernible difference between the two pressings. I was under the illusion the Pallas version would be the definitive sounding pressing, so thought I must hear this and compare. Well I always thought the 20th anniversary edition sounded superb, but was expecting the 2013 pressing to sound better as I'd read so many great comments about it, but no difference here, both sound absolutely wonderful, great separation and I'd highly recommend either of these two pressings...
Black Ortofon Cartridge
Acry-lit platter
Project speed box
Project debut 2 turntable
Marantz amp
Monster cable high performance bi wire
Bowers and Wilkens tower speakers
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
Not sure if the model number but I find out.
They are silver and mustard(darker yellow)with wood cases.
Heavy to move lol
Each tower has
2 subs 8s I think
1 mid 8 I think too yellow with cone
1 amazing tweeter on top
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12