BIlly Corgan talks shit on PJ on Howard Stern show..
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Do I agree with Billy's comments. No. Is he allowed to have an opinion? Yes.
Do I listen to the Smashing Pumpkins. I do. I love Gish, Siamase Dream, Picses Iscariot, Mellon Collie, the Aeroplan Flies high boxset, and a few songs from Adore. I'm not going to crap on the music because Billy said something about my favourite band that I didn't like.
I'm not sure why he doesn't get Pearl Jam but it doesn't really matter. I know a number of people that don't get Pearl Jam either, but no one gives a shit about their opinion's
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Absolutely. I think people forget how good those albums are. I find it somewhat ironic that Billy Corgan named an album Zeitgeist, when in fact he released not one, but two albums both far more befitting of the title in the 90's.aspoonfulweighsaton said:Sure he sounds like a whiny bitch, but I'd put Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie against any other band's top back-to-back output. Those albums are beyond classic.
My problem with these comments he's made, is that the quality of his own music took a massive nose-dive after Mellon Collie. He became so hell bent on experimenting, that he forgot where his real strengths lie - his guitar playing, and more importantly his sense of melody. And therefore people have gradually shown less and less appreciation for what he does. That's not to say he can't still write good songs, there have been a few in the last decade or so, and after a couple of listens I'd say the new record is easily the best stuff he's done in quite some time.
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The new album is pretty good. I like it anyway...0
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The new album is good. Certainly as good as Backspacer and LB.And so you see, I have come to doubt
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Billy Corgan is responsible for the demise of his band and popularity. No question. Smashing Pumpkins were up there with Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and STP but Corgan blew it and killed the legacy. SP put out some great, great records that probably all but 10 bands in the nineties would haved killed for.0
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a douche asking questions and a douche answering them.0
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+ 1Suziemay said:I don't care what Billy Corgan thinks about anything, and neither should you. If people are going to form their opinion of anything based on an interview someone did on Howard Stern, we have bigger problems with humanity than a bunch of people being misinformed about Pearl Jam.
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Controversy sells albums and creates a buzz. Just look at this useless thread. 3 pages of people talking about Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins. Then there's the facebook crowd now whining and bitching about Billy Corgan. Name is again relevant and in front of the people.
He also said that Pearl Jam is a great band...so...
He just believes his shit is better than Pearl Jam. So big deal.Post edited by JV130312 onI Know All The Rules But The Rules Do Not Know Me.0 -
BILLY CORGAN IN NEW Q&A: CHICAGO HAS ‘TOO MANY GHOSTS’
MIKE THOMAS on December 9, 2014
Photo: Andrew Cowie/AFP-Getty Images
According to a new interview posted Tuesday on the Wall Street Journal’s arts and entertainment blog,Smashing Pumpkins frontman, Chicago-area resident Billy Corgan, is over lots of things. Among them: his name, the genre of music that made him famous and his town.
He doesn’t “like being in the city anymore,” Corgan, who has lived for more than a decade in a Highland Park mansion, says of Chicago. “Too many ghosts. Too many betrayals, disappointments. There’s the twin I used to date. There’s the dude who f—– me over. There’s where I bought my Marshall amp. Inevitably it connects to a lot of history.”
The Q&A is pegged to the release of a new Pumpkins album, “Monuments to an Elegy.” But don’t expect much more music in the same vein.
“The next album is like the end, end, end,” Corgan proclaims. “The trite way to say it is I’m over rock ‘n’ roll. Which is strange, because rock ‘n’ roll is getting back into me.”
Oh, and he’d appreciate it if you’d stop calling him Billy.
“When I was a kid, I was Little Bill. Then I was Bill. In high school I tried to go to my middle name, Patrick, and everyone refused that. When I turned 18 I wanted to be Billy because that’s what my dad was always called and I hated the name Bill. I had about four uncles named Bill, and I just hated the sound of the word. But I don’t really feel like Billy anymore, so I’ve been trying to go back to my real name, which is William.”
Read William’s entire interview at blogs.wsj.com
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Proof this board is drawn to negativity. Move on guys, no need to rush to defend the band.www.cluthelee.com0
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Annafalk said:
I have never heard of this guy but he sounds like a tragic figure.
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2 #1 albumsmy2hands said:
ummmm, correct me if i am wrong, but in the last 12 months didnt they put out a #1 album and sell out arenas from Seattle, to Sao Paulo, to San Siro, to Syndey?DewieCox said:
True, they do have quite a bit of respect in the industry, but I think the general public is equally important. The fact is they've not aged well to the majority of music fans and that includes people that are into similar music.TJ25487 said:
How has time not been that great to PJ and what luck have they received? IMO Their legacy is top notch in the music industry not the publics as the general public doesn't understand the band and what they stand for. We do naturally blow their relevance out of proportion on this board because it is deserving of it. IMHO of course.
They've made alot of their own luck, but I could see where things could've turned out differently. Stuff like keeping virtually the same lineup and having a very devoted fanbase is incredibly lucky and has had a major impact on alot of the decisions they've made through the years.
yeah, they havent aged well at all and will be on the casino circuit any day now... lolI miss igotid880 -
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i find it funny how bent out of shape you guys get over this nonsense. cobain said the same stuff about pj 20+ years ago.www.myspace.com0
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I wish there was still time to release a cover of a Smashing Pumpkins song as the Christmas single. Middle finger to The Lord!
He gave the ten club some respect at least.Jq0 -
I'm not defending PJ. Corgan just has some really awful quotes recently. I mean, the whole thing about him not being loved enough as a child...Turn this anger into
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I'm not going to pretend I've heard/read every PJ interview - when did they say they were trying to write really simple songs?wnh1977 said:
I must have just missed the Pearl Jam conversation, but right when I tuned in, Howard and Corgan were talking about Eddie. To be fair with the Eddie segment, he said Eddie was on Time magazine and that Eddie got to a much higher level of fame than himself, so maybe that does something to a person. Yes, still dickish... but what do we expect from this guy?RS151862 said:Billy apparently thinks he's some combination of John Lennon and Jesus...
When asked about great contemporaries Robin suggested PJ
Billy "NO, not even close"
Howard "Why, would you say they're derivative?"
Billy "Absolutely, the work speaks for itself... I don't think they have the songs"
Howard "How have they lasted so long if they don't have the songs?"
Billy "That's a mystery to me, I don't get it."
When asked about Ed
Billy "We were friends at one point... A lot of people are transformed by fame. I knew one person, now there's another person"
he also went on to talk shit on Dave Grohl and the FF's
I'm sure his PJ views would have pissed me off... but to play devil's advocate, even PJ has said that they try to write really simple songs these days, especially with the last two albums, because they are easier to perform live. His Foo Fighters slams had to do with that band not evolving or changing their sound. I don't see how anybody could say that's the case with PJ, but from the limited Foo Fighters I've heard I can see where people think they're a one-style pony. During the time I was listening to Stern this morning, seems like Cobain was the only guy Corgan gave any props to.
Overall, from the little bit I heard on Howard today, Corgan does seem like a douche who thinks he deserves more street cred because he was banging Courtney Love prior to Cobain coming along... weird.Oh please let it rain today.
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I can't find any of my old smashing pumpkins CDs, buts that's okay. Whenever I want to hear them, I just take my wife's cat by the tail and spin him around. It's amazing, and totally like being at a smashing pumpkins concert.0
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I'm reporting you.vaggar99 said:I can't find any of my old smashing pumpkins CDs, buts that's okay. Whenever I want to hear them, I just take my wife's cat by the tail and spin him around. It's amazing, and totally like being at a smashing pumpkins concert.
Though the comparison is correct if at some point you let go of the cat. The last time I saw SP, they did a half hour, full band bongo jam. I shit you not.The member formerly known as Scratched Vinyl0 -
Does he still go by Billy?Another habit says it's in love with you
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