BIlly Corgan talks shit on PJ on Howard Stern show..

RS151862
RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,732
edited December 2014 in The Porch
Billy apparently thinks he's some combination of John Lennon and Jesus...

When asked about great contemporaries Robin suggested PJ
Billy "NO, not even close"
Howard "Why, would you say they're derivative?"
Billy "Absolutely, the work speaks for itself... I don't think they have the songs"
Howard "How have they lasted so long if they don't have the songs?"
Billy "That's a mystery to me, I don't get it."

When asked about Ed
Billy "We were friends at one point... A lot of people are transformed by fame. I knew one person, now there's another person"

he also went on to talk shit on Dave Grohl and the FF's
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  • BumperD
    BumperD Scranton PA Posts: 42
    He thinks he's wrestler. He sounds bitter on Howard right now.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,616
    Not sure if he is unbalanced, delusional or just craving attention.
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  • elen
    elen Milan, Italy Posts: 188
    Some days ago it was this

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-interview-hanging-on-in-this-dirty-pop-business-9905267.html?fb_ref=Default&fb_source=message

    in particular here's what he said:

    Life was very different in the early Nineties, the last gasp to date of American rock as a generationally binding, transformative force. Corgan, whose on-off (now very off) relationship with Courtney Love preceded Kurt Cobain’s, was there for all grunge’s grubby glory years, which Cobain’s 1994 suicide ended. Pearl Jam’s Eddie Vedder once told me he felt survivor’s guilt afterwards.

    “That would be Eddie Vedder,” Corgan snorts. “Somehow he makes it about him even when it’s about somebody else! I had a much more personal perspective, because I’d been in contact with Courtney through a lot of the setting up of that period, and afterwards. I found it devastating because, whether we wanted to admit it or not, he was quarterback of the football team, leading the aesthetic and integrity charge. He knew how to navigate those things.
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  • BraceYourSelf
    BraceYourSelf Posts: 814
    Yeah, He was great last time on the show, this one I wasn't crazy about.
  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,732
    edited December 2014
    He's so full of himself its crazy to listen to, does he really not hear what hes saying?
    I have to say, the band does sound good on the show.. Fame was a cool cover, and the new song wasn't bad.
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  • CitizenRick
    CitizenRick Posts: 1,079
    I am pissed! I know that's ridiculous. The Stern show reaches millions of people ... and I hate that the "dummies" now think Pearl Jam is derivative. I love the show ... and Howard, but he has an agenda when it comes to Eddie/PJ because he/they have rejected any interest on being guests. Sadly, Billy (who is very talented) has become more wrestler than musician.
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  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,732
    I don't think Howard has an agenda, he was just setting Billy up to say something that might get some press.
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  • CitizenRick
    CitizenRick Posts: 1,079
    RS151862 said:

    I don't think Howard has an agenda, he was just setting Billy up to say something that might get some press.

    I respectfully disagree. He's always prodding them when he gets a chance. He tried bating Uncle Neil into an Eddie discussion ... but Neil glossed over the comment. He has a "hard on" for Eddie IMO. Can't understand the non-interest.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    I always thought Howard was a fan of Pearl Jam.
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,189
    Cue Ball/Powder doesnt get the whole speak softly and carry a big stick...this isnt the NFL u idiot its music and who the fuck are you the gatekeeper of whats good and what sucks...maybe Jessica Simpson is more on the level to Billy douchboy

    and im not just calling him names cause he said shit about my favorite band...the guy is such a fool on every god damn subject you throw at him

    constant revolving door in his band.....yea Fame was cool cover a lil while ago until someone opened their mouth and began singing...terrible
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Do you really think that people give a damn about what the fuck Billy Corgan says? Pumpkins were great in the 90's. That's it. Hope the new album gets back to some roots. Otherwise it's going to be melow crap music or scream shit.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,146
    Yeah this guy is so irrelevant it's pathetic to have to talk about someone else instead of your own accomplishments ...
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    I have never heard of this guy but he sounds like a tragic figure.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,303
    Clearly he has some butthurt over PJ maintaining their popularity over the years while the SP have floundered for the past decade and a half and now just play mid to large theaters. Also he is definitely mad over Ed writing the Cubs song and not him. He's just a bitter dude. but hes kinda always been. It was better when he was young and bitter, now hes old and bitter.

    That being said, I do think its a fair assessment that PJ can be derivative. Its not like they have really pushed themselves or their sound in the past decade.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    edited December 2014
    I don't care what Billy Corgan thinks about anything, and neither should you. If people are going to form their opinion of anything based on an interview someone did on Howard Stern, we have bigger problems with humanity than a bunch of people being misinformed about Pearl Jam.
  • EnterThanman
    EnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    edited December 2014
    Howard's not the problem, he asks questions that will get the guests talking; that's just a good interviewer. He asked Cornell about Eddie too, obviously Chris had good things to say. Billy Corgan is honestly a mad man, thinking everytjing he does is genius and important. Check out his poetry book for evidence. His lyrics were/are awful to begin with, no need for an entire book of that silliness.
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  • EnterThanman
    EnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    PP193448 said:

    Do you really think that people give a damn about what the fuck Billy Corgan says? Pumpkins were great in the 90's. That's it. Hope the new album gets back to some roots. Otherwise it's going to be melow crap music or scream shit.

    Its 30 minutes long and safe. Not worth the 30 minutes it takes to get through.
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Who cares what Corgan thinks about Vedder? Equally, who cares what Vedder thinks about Corgan?

    So Corgan is trashtalking, it's not like Ed hasn't trashtalked artists before!
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,920
    This is nothing new. Corgan has publicly stated this for years. To stir the pot a little too, Cobain was openly critical of PJ and Vedder too.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited December 2014
    you guys crack me up.
    Corgan has always been this way.....
    just fishing for attention and reactions....
    I do love his music however.
    and I have always found him to be very accessible and nice to the fans.
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