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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    eeriepadave said:

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    The Juggler said:

    diamond club seats for tomorrow night...got 'em for free. never been there before.

    5th row directly behind the plate. fucking awesome. could really get a sense for how fast giles was throwing the ball. also, i didn't know this till last night, you have access to a window overlooking both teams' batting cages in the tunnels behind the dugouts. that was cool.

    as bad as the phils have been, they were 4-1 in games i went to this year.
    well you should have went to more games then. :P

    Anyone else see this last night? :))
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjb3p_bga8
    ha...my seats the night before were right behind the "csn" sign
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    The Juggler said:

    cole hamels is the first pitcher to have an era below 2.50 and not have a winning record since orel hershiser in 1989.

    awwwww......at least he's got your man crush.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole. a lot more dominate than 5 of the previous 7 which you called dominating. if 5 of the previous 7 were dominating by your definition I'd love to know what word you would use for this season.

    the fans mocking Kimbrel the other night was pretty neat. they had a good portion of those fans there doing it.

    if today was Ryan's last game as a Phil I hope the fans will remember the great times. I know I will.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
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  • The Juggler
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    imalive said:

    The Juggler said:

    cole hamels is the first pitcher to have an era below 2.50 and not have a winning record since orel hershiser in 1989.

    awwwww......at least he's got your man crush.
    hey man, he's one of the best pitcher's in the league that nobody ever acknowledges...even in philadelphia. hell of a season.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited September 2014
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
    i guess i was wrong...you can be that stubborn.


  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
    i guess i was wrong...you can be that stubborn.


    The irony is dripping, oozing, if you will.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Jearlpam0925 said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
    i guess i was wrong...you can be that stubborn.


    The irony is dripping, oozing, if you will.
    I know I am a stubborn SOB. i think it's a great quality. now how is that possible gift from above (your words not mine) of Montgomery getting cancer working out for ya so far?

  • The Juggler
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    Jearlpam0925 said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
    i guess i was wrong...you can be that stubborn.


    The irony is dripping, oozing, if you will.
    actual numbers are kinda hard to argue against. you can't make this stuff up.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Juggler said:

    pjhawks said:

    Juggler - now that is what I would call a dominating season by Cole..

    well, nobody has ever accused this guy of being ahead of the curve. haha
    no, i just realized before some people what Cole was capable of. will you admit that calling 5 of his previous 7 seasons dominate was a little over the top? especially compared to this season?
    come on you can do it...
    other than era and hr allowed, everything else is right on par with the rest of his career
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamelco01.shtml?redir

    keep this in mind before criticizing him if he starts off slowly again next year. haha
    so according to you he wasn't much better this year than in the past? you can't possibly think that or be that stubborn can you? come on now dude.
    dude, look at the numbers. they are right there in the link. you could make an argument that this was his best year because the era was lower and hr's were lower, but the walk rate was also higher---everything else is right about where his career averages are at. i'd say this was comparable to his 2011 season. nobody should be surprised by the season he just had.

    the guy's a great pitcher and has been for a while.

    viva le cole hamels.
    i guess i was wrong...you can be that stubborn.


    The irony is dripping, oozing, if you will.
    actual numbers are kinda hard to argue against. you can't make this stuff up.
    the most important number for a pitcher was significantly better than all but one season and if you take out the 1st few starts since June 1st his numbers far surpassed any stretch in his career. the next best 4-month stretch was in 2011 and even those don't really come close to this year.

    his era by month:
    2014 2011
    April 6.75 3.13
    May 3.71 2.93
    June 1.23 1.31
    July 1.84 3.25
    Aug 2.73 2.42
    Sep 1.96 3.79

    so yea look a bit deeper into the numbers and tell me he wasn't significantly better in 2014.

    thus endeth the lesson
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    There's a reason I don't actually engage in a cogent conversation/debate with this guy. I am genuinely convinced (concerned?) that he has a(many) problem(s) - mentally, possibly physically as well.

    But definitely mentally.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    in simplest terms-

    stat 2014 career
    era 2.46 3.27
    games started 30 33
    IP 204 223
    whip 1.148 1.142
    hr/9 .6 1
    hits/9 7.7 8
    bb/9 2.6 2.3
    so/9 8.7 8.9


    argument can be made that '14 or '11 was his best year....but overall, this is who cole hamels is: one of the best pitchers in the league. most of us have been aware of this for years.
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  • The Juggler
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    so there's another corner outfield cuban dude available....please make a play for him. thank you.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Jearlpam0925 said:

    There's a reason I don't actually engage in a cogent conversation/debate with this guy. I am genuinely convinced (concerned?) that he has a(many) problem(s) - mentally, possibly physically as well.

    But definitely mentally.

    hurts coming from a guy who called someone getting cancer ' a possible gift from above'. you stay classy Jearlpam
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:

    in simplest terms-

    stat 2014 career
    era 2.46 3.27
    games started 30 33
    IP 204 223
    whip 1.148 1.142
    hr/9 .6 1
    hits/9 7.7 8
    bb/9 2.6 2.3
    so/9 8.7 8.9


    argument can be made that '14 or '11 was his best year....but overall, this is who cole hamels is: one of the best pitchers in the league. most of us have been aware of this for years.

    i would say a difference of almost a full point on his era (0.81) is a fairly big difference from this year to career. wouldn't you?

    and again if you consider the era after May it is a humongous difference compared to his career era. he has never had a 4th month stretch in his career that approached June-September of this year.

    and when did i ever say he wasn't one of the best pitchers in the league? this year he was one of the top 3, most years he has been in the 7-10 range.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    The Juggler said:

    so there's another corner outfield cuban dude available....please make a play for him. thank you.

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