Beheaded by ISIS

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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    This is just sickening , the end of the world couldn't come any faster
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    JWPearl said:

    This is just sickening , the end of the world couldn't come any faster

    End of the world, nah, this is just hell on earth.........
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited September 2014
    Ah, 'the birth pangs of a new middle east'....condi rice may just get her Sunni crescent afterall.

    In other news, a Russian journalist was killed by western-backed evil-doers in Ukraine. That makes four, plus an Italian. But fuck those pinkos, they ain't murican.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Drowned Out said:

    Ah, 'the birth pangs of a new middle east'....condi rice may just get her Sunni crescent afterall.

    In other news, a Russian journalist was killed by western-backed evil-doers in Ukraine. That makes four, plus an Italian. But fuck those pinkos, they ain't murican.

    Who said anything like your last sentence? No one. By all means, start a thread about the brutality in Ukraine.

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Didn't post this earlier, still in my drafts, was planning to elaborate but now I'm waiting for takeout and saw your post jimmy....so I'll leave it at this for now:

    Ah, that was a bit uncalled for. I get frustrated when I read comments from people supporting war without any geopolitical, nor historical pretext. The fear mongering is palpable, building support for a long-standing war agenda that puts us all in danger. We never learn.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    lukin2006 said:

    Jason P said:

    A second American has died fighting for ISIS. Before getting a job at ISIS, he cleaned planes and had security clearance at Minneapolis-St Paul International airport.

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    Abdirahmaan Muhumed left behind nine kids ...

    businessinsider.com/american-who-fought-with-isis-worked-at-minneapolis-airport-2014-9

    9 kids!!! When did he find time to be radicalized.
    Hahaha thats funny and i know it want a real question but in all seriousness see the subjugation of women by religion thread for your answer!
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    JimmyV said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Ah, 'the birth pangs of a new middle east'....condi rice may just get her Sunni crescent afterall.

    In other news, a Russian journalist was killed by western-backed evil-doers in Ukraine. That makes four, plus an Italian. But fuck those pinkos, they ain't murican.

    Who said anything like your last sentence? No one. By all means, start a thread about the brutality in Ukraine.

    You're right....I'm frustrated by the lack of attention Ukraine is getting. My Murican friends didn't deserve that comment.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,390
    Drowned Out said:

    JimmyV said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Ah, 'the birth pangs of a new middle east'....condi rice may just get her Sunni crescent afterall.

    In other news, a Russian journalist was killed by western-backed evil-doers in Ukraine. That makes four, plus an Italian. But fuck those pinkos, they ain't murican.

    Who said anything like your last sentence? No one. By all means, start a thread about the brutality in Ukraine.

    You're right....I'm frustrated by the lack of attention Ukraine is getting. My Murican friends didn't deserve that comment.
    Looking forward to seeing your thread about Ukraine - this forum is my primary (though not exclusive) source of news, and I always enjoy your astute analyses of global issues!
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Enjoy that takeout. :-)
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    We all wonder how these monsters in ISIS are made. I watched this short documentary by VICE that gave me a little insight.

    THE BATTLE FOR ALEPPO

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5UEz_Ao0g#t=610

    What I see is horrifying.

    I still don't understand how some young men from western countries go oversees to join these radical groups but I can understand why some of these young men, from Syria, can choose that path after being the victims of such violence.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Drowned Out said:

    Didn't post this earlier, still in my drafts, was planning to elaborate but now I'm waiting for takeout and saw your post jimmy....so I'll leave it at this for now:

    Ah, that was a bit uncalled for. I get frustrated when I read comments from people supporting war without any geopolitical, nor historical pretext. The fear mongering is palpable, building support for a long-standing war agenda that puts us all in danger. We never learn.

    Exactly. Everybody's jumping up on their high-horse squawking about 'Hell on Earth', and 'monsters', etc, whilst conveniently forgetting that Western countries have been engaged in numerous genocides - North America, Australia, Africa, Latin America - and atrocities for hundreds of years.

    Reality check: The U.S invaded Iraq on a pretext of lies, and murdered over a million people. The country was destroyed and fragmented into a series of sectarian clans - as predicted would happen before the invasion. And now we're acting surprised that some 'monsters' are 'taking over the World' and causing 'Hell on Earth'?

    Okey dokey.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    guypjfreak said:

    put them in a field and bomb the bastards

    'Exterminate the brutes', right? Coincidentally, I'm reading a book right now by someone called Sven Lindqvist, called 'Terra Nullius' (No Ones land), about the arrogance, racism, and greed of Europeans who thought it their right as [allegedly] superior races to wipe the Australian Aboriginals off the face of the Earth. This same author also wrote a book called 'Exterminate All The Brutes', which details how genocide didn't begin with the Nazis, but has a much longer history. I may have to drop this one into my Amazon basket.

    http://www.amazon.com/Exterminate-All-Brutes-Darkness-European/dp/1565843592/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409811059&sr=8-1&keywords=sven+lindqvist
    "Exterminate All the Brutes": One Man's Odyssey into the Heart of Darkness and the Origins of European Genocide

    "Exterminate All the Brutes" is a searching examination of Europe’s dark history in Africa and the origins of genocide. Using Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness as his point of departure, Sven Lindqvist takes us on a haunting tour through the colonial past, interwoven with a modern-day travelogue. Retracing the steps of European explorers, missionaries, politicians, and historians in Africa from the late eighteenth century onward, the author exposes the roots of genocide in Africa via his own journey through the Saharan desert. As Lindqvist shows, fantasies not merely of white superiority but of actual extermination—"cleansing" the earth of the so-called lesser races—deeply informed European colonialism and racist ideology that ultimately culminated in Europe’s own Holocaust.

    Chosen as one of the Best Books of 1998 by the New Internationalist, which called it "a beautifully written integration of criticism, cultural history, and travel writing, underpinned by a passion for social justice," "Exterminate All the Brutes" is a powerful reckoning with the past and an indispensable contribution to the literature of colonial Africa and European genocide.
  • Pingfah
    Pingfah Posts: 350
    I don't understand the purpose of such ridiculous statements. How exactly will we manoeuvre 50,000 people occupying an area the size of the UK into one field?

    Totally pointless fantasist nonsense.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I got to find a way for my posts to be more clear. My "hell on earth" comment was me being a smart ass. Somehow it was taken the wrong way.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    badbrains said:

    I got to find a way for my posts to be more clear. My "hell on earth" comment was me being a smart ass. Somehow it was taken the wrong way.

    I wouldn't worry about it.

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,390
    badbrains said:

    I got to find a way for my posts to be more clear. My "hell on earth" comment was me being a smart ass. Somehow it was taken the wrong way.

    Something tells me that those suffering at the hands of ISIS/ISIL/IS would use the exact same terminology that you did there. I wouldn't worry, bud.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Unless time machines have recently been invented, why use past events to deflect from current day atrocities? It comes off as defending what ISIS is doing.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Jason P said:

    Unless time machines have recently been invented, why use past events to deflect from current day atrocities? It comes off as defending what ISIS is doing.

    Yeah,I agree.No matter how we got here or what we as a country did to help instigate the enviorment that allowed or was a precurser to the formation of this group of scum bags,does not excuse the atrocities and mayhem these clowns are doing.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,390
    Jason P said:

    Unless time machines have recently been invented, why use past events to deflect from current day atrocities? It comes off as defending what ISIS is doing.

    I don't think anyone's trying to defend what ISIS is doing: the question is, with a force like ISIS at large, the US is about to use this as a pretext to intervene and 'help'. Any discussion about past events here seem to be about whether this intervention should be welcomed or feared by those within the region, and whether it would bring positive or negative change.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P said:

    Unless time machines have recently been invented, why use past events to deflect from current day atrocities? It comes off as defending what ISIS is doing.

    It's not deflecting, it's called perspective. The Western powers have had their hands in the Middle East for decades, if not centuries. We've not stopped fucking with them for as long as I can remember.
    And to pretend that these 'monsters' suddenly emerged out of nowhere, as if out of a vacuum, is deflecting. The shit we're seeing over there now is happening as a direct consequence of our constant meddling in their affairs.

    I think 'Blow back' is the expression. And 'You reap what you sow' is another.

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