Beheaded by ISIS

Byrnzie said:

Bentleyspop said:

Byrnzie said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't know. How many Americans think Hussein was responsible for 9/11? I wouodn't have thought it was vry many. Just a small number ifnreally stupid people. What does that have to do with anything?

It has to do with the fact that what many people think, especially in the U.S, doesn't always have any relation to reality.

I was under the impression that only factual based statements with links to back them up were allowed here.

What you wrote sounds more like an opinion than actual fact.

Do you have links to back up your opinion?

Yeah, I do: Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm



Happy now?

Polls from over ten years ago taken from 1,000 out of over 300,000,000 now constitute fact? Shiver me timbers.

Jason P said:

Alleged be-header / British / Egyptian / Jihad / Rapper / Anonymas Hacker / Drug Dealer / Abdel Majed Abdel Bary ....



businessinsider.com/rapper-linked-to-james-foley-killing-made-anonymous-anthem-2014-8

It's a shame he gave up his Occupy Rap career and drug dealing to go and cut off people's heads in respect to The Spaghetti Monster (allegedly)

If this is actually the guy... I hope he's squirming right now. He was really tough with that mask on spouting his goofy gibberish, but with the understanding that he's exposed and people know him for being a scumbag... I hope he's reflecting on his follies and having some regrets while worrying for his future.

And... I await the moment when someone pursuing justice on the front line grabs him by the neck and feeds him a few straight rights to simmer him down a little bit as he resists by flailing away and crying for help.

But don't worry... we'll patch him up really good and give him a really comfy cell with some hot chocolate and cable television so he can feel better. We might even give him a nurse to rub his shoulders too.

badbrains said:

Jason P said:

Byrnzie said:

Bentleyspop said:

Byrnzie said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't know. How many Americans think Hussein was responsible for 9/11? I wouodn't have thought it was vry many. Just a small number ifnreally stupid people. What does that have to do with anything?

It has to do with the fact that what many people think, especially in the U.S, doesn't always have any relation to reality.

I was under the impression that only factual based statements with links to back them up were allowed here.

What you wrote sounds more like an opinion than actual fact.

Do you have links to back up your opinion?

Yeah, I do: Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm



Happy now?

Polls from over ten years ago taken from 1,000 out of over 300,000,000 now constitute fact? Shiver me timbers.

To be fair, I just googled it to and there's NOTHING current I could find for a poll. Unless you got another search engine I could use. Nothing after 2007. Which is weird to say the least.

Is it though? Saddam has been gone for years. I doubt anyone is polling on that question anymore.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Alleged be-header / British / Egyptian / Jihad / Rapper / Anonymas Hacker / Drug Dealer / Abdel Majed Abdel Bary ....



businessinsider.com/rapper-linked-to-james-foley-killing-made-anonymous-anthem-2014-8

It's a shame he gave up his Occupy Rap career and drug dealing to go and cut off people's heads in respect to The Spaghetti Monster (allegedly)

If this is actually the guy... I hope he's squirming right now. He was really tough with that mask on spouting his goofy gibberish, but with the understanding that he's exposed and people know him for being a scumbag... I hope he's reflecting on his follies and having some regrets while worrying for his future.

And... I await the moment when someone pursuing justice on the front line grabs him by the neck and feeds him a few straight rights to simmer him down a little bit as he resists by flailing away and crying for help.

But don't worry... we'll patch him up really good and give him a really comfy cell with some hot chocolate and cable television so he can feel better. We might even give him a nurse to rub his shoulders too.

Dude....sometimes I just....
I have no problem with an opinion of support for the death penalty (tho I disagree with it), and harsher treatment of criminals....but the way you present your thoughts on it at times.....
Do you really fantasize about avenging people you've never met? Doesn't seem healthy.


I saw some pretty good questions asked of this video last night...
I haven't seen it (not sure I would want to), so relaying these questions assumes the person asking them isn't making shit up.

This video was not consistent with other extremist execution videos: Only one person on camera (there are usually many, in a show of force)....no religious speeches or allahu akbar chants...
The video didn't show the actual beheading, but did show six cutting motions across his neck...Foley didn't struggle or react at all to the cutting, and there was no blood until the film jumps to a still shot of his head lying on his body. How was Foley so calm, if he knew what was happening? If he didn't, wouldn't he have at least struggled when being cut? If the intent was to intimidate or horrify the west....why make the video and release it without showing the actual beheading? Most of these psychos (including those who filmed Saddam's execution), don't edit out the graphic parts.
Maybe there are easily explained answers to al of those questions...hardly smoking gun stuff....but it's interesting that the UK govt has issued a statement that simply viewing the video may be considered terrorism under anti-terror legislation....kinda makes it difficult to judge for yourself.

Drowned Out said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Alleged be-header / British / Egyptian / Jihad / Rapper / Anonymas Hacker / Drug Dealer / Abdel Majed Abdel Bary ....



businessinsider.com/rapper-linked-to-james-foley-killing-made-anonymous-anthem-2014-8

It's a shame he gave up his Occupy Rap career and drug dealing to go and cut off people's heads in respect to The Spaghetti Monster (allegedly)

If this is actually the guy... I hope he's squirming right now. He was really tough with that mask on spouting his goofy gibberish, but with the understanding that he's exposed and people know him for being a scumbag... I hope he's reflecting on his follies and having some regrets while worrying for his future.

And... I await the moment when someone pursuing justice on the front line grabs him by the neck and feeds him a few straight rights to simmer him down a little bit as he resists by flailing away and crying for help.

But don't worry... we'll patch him up really good and give him a really comfy cell with some hot chocolate and cable television so he can feel better. We might even give him a nurse to rub his shoulders too.

Dude....sometimes I just....
I have no problem with an opinion of support for the death penalty (tho I disagree with it), and harsher treatment of criminals....but the way you present your thoughts on it at times.....
Do you really fantasize about avenging people you've never met? Doesn't seem healthy.


I saw some pretty good questions asked of this video last night...
I haven't seen it (not sure I would want to), so relaying these questions assumes the person asking them isn't making shit up.

This video was not consistent with other extremist execution videos: Only one person on camera (there are usually many, in a show of force)....no religious speeches or allahu akbar chants...
The video didn't show the actual beheading, but did show six cutting motions across his neck...Foley didn't struggle or react at all to the cutting, and there was no blood until the film jumps to a still shot of his head lying on his body. How was Foley so calm, if he knew what was happening? If he didn't, wouldn't he have at least struggled when being cut? If the intent was to intimidate or horrify the west....why make the video and release it without showing the actual beheading? Most of these psychos (including those who filmed Saddam's execution), don't edit out the graphic parts.
Maybe there are easily explained answers to al of those questions...hardly smoking gun stuff....but it's interesting that the UK govt has issued a statement that simply viewing the video may be considered terrorism under anti-terror legislation....kinda makes it difficult to judge for yourself.

Dude...

You've been quite active on these boards making all sorts of character calls on all sorts of people these past few days. You've really got everybody figured out- good job!

Yes. I have a problem with people cutting people's heads off with a butter knife. And yes... that problem I have with people cutting other people's heads off makes me think of how I wish for justice to be served. It's not unhealthy. It's actually pretty normal.

So... thanks for the 5 cent therapy session, but I won't be soul searching any time soon.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Drowned Out said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Alleged be-header / British / Egyptian / Jihad / Rapper / Anonymas Hacker / Drug Dealer / Abdel Majed Abdel Bary ....



businessinsider.com/rapper-linked-to-james-foley-killing-made-anonymous-anthem-2014-8

It's a shame he gave up his Occupy Rap career and drug dealing to go and cut off people's heads in respect to The Spaghetti Monster (allegedly)

If this is actually the guy... I hope he's squirming right now. He was really tough with that mask on spouting his goofy gibberish, but with the understanding that he's exposed and people know him for being a scumbag... I hope he's reflecting on his follies and having some regrets while worrying for his future.

And... I await the moment when someone pursuing justice on the front line grabs him by the neck and feeds him a few straight rights to simmer him down a little bit as he resists by flailing away and crying for help.

But don't worry... we'll patch him up really good and give him a really comfy cell with some hot chocolate and cable television so he can feel better. We might even give him a nurse to rub his shoulders too.

Dude....sometimes I just....
I have no problem with an opinion of support for the death penalty (tho I disagree with it), and harsher treatment of criminals....but the way you present your thoughts on it at times.....
Do you really fantasize about avenging people you've never met? Doesn't seem healthy.


I saw some pretty good questions asked of this video last night...
I haven't seen it (not sure I would want to), so relaying these questions assumes the person asking them isn't making shit up.

This video was not consistent with other extremist execution videos: Only one person on camera (there are usually many, in a show of force)....no religious speeches or allahu akbar chants...
The video didn't show the actual beheading, but did show six cutting motions across his neck...Foley didn't struggle or react at all to the cutting, and there was no blood until the film jumps to a still shot of his head lying on his body. How was Foley so calm, if he knew what was happening? If he didn't, wouldn't he have at least struggled when being cut? If the intent was to intimidate or horrify the west....why make the video and release it without showing the actual beheading? Most of these psychos (including those who filmed Saddam's execution), don't edit out the graphic parts.
Maybe there are easily explained answers to al of those questions...hardly smoking gun stuff....but it's interesting that the UK govt has issued a statement that simply viewing the video may be considered terrorism under anti-terror legislation....kinda makes it difficult to judge for yourself.

Dude...

You've been quite active on these boards making all sorts of character calls on all sorts of people these past few days. You've really got everybody figured out- good job!

Yes. I have a problem with people cutting people's heads off with a butter knife. And yes... that problem I have with people cutting other people's heads off makes me think of how I wish for justice to be served. It's not unhealthy. It's actually pretty normal.

So... thanks for the 5 cent therapy session, but I won't be soul searching any time soon.

The only character calls I've witnessed from Drowned Out are those encouraging people to never assume or accept, and always analyze and question. If I were to enter a meaningful debate with anyone, I would expect no less than that.

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Forgetting the many things in their religious text that make it clear that women are not equal according to Islam, that isn't even relevant since that's not reality, and the way that Islam may have been twisted as it has intertwined with culture is what actually matters. If i gave the impression that I thought it was all about pure Islamicism, I didn't mean to.... not that it helps. Remember, I am strongly anti-organized religion. I could talk about how various branches of Christianity lead to this same problem, past and present.

BTW, your point about women praying separately (and it's often not just behind them btw. It's sometimes at the back of the room in a separate walled off room) from men because they don't want the men to think about fucking them while praying? That did not make the point I think you intended. You actually made my point.

I proved your point? Really? Interesting. Ok, congrats, you win. Send me your address so I can send you a cookie. B-)

Edit- it's never behind them, it's always separated.

I am not trying to win. I was just saying that the justification of praying separately from women is because the men will otherwise not be able to stop thinking about screwing the women says a lot about how women are viewed. And the prayer spaces for women are usually far inferior to the men's prayer spaces. They also have to enter through a separate entrance (usually the back entrance).

Sorry idris, but I have to post one more response to pjsoul. I think this does a better job of explaining it then me:

http://m.thenational.ae/arts-culture/ask-ali-why-mosques-have-separate-areas-for-women

That sounds very isolating for women compared to the men to me.

Here are a couple more articles on the subject.

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/642087-why-muslim-women-and-men-sit-separately-in-mosques.html

http://womensenews.org/story/religion/140402/mosques-relegate-womens-prayers-the-basement#.U_wnd45lBdY

The articles u posted say that barriers are NOT required in Islam between men and women during prayer. The 2nd article pretty much proved it's a culture thing with the barriers. And now I'm bored with this subject. Pjsoul, your mind is made up. Although I feel that there's more to your feelings about Islam then you're telling. Like something you hold personal against Islam. Just seems to me that you have something personal against Islam. And you have every right to. I'm just telling u my feelings I've been getting from your posts. Good luck to you.

Nope, you're wrong, and I know exactly what the articles I myself posted said. I meant to post them and read them and they make my point - sounds like you are inventing a different point on my behalf? I am happy to point out anything positive about Islam, however small. I already said that culture and religion is intertwined. And it is far from black and white. So maybe stop making assumptions and take my posts at face value instead of assuming that I thought those articles said something they didn't?? Although I think you may be having a hard time figuring out what suggests inequality for women and what doesn't?

Do I take the subjugation of women personally? Of course I do! How are you seeing that as a negative? Sorry, but is there some kind of requirement for me to be cool with everything about Islam? Or any other facet of culture and/or religion that is negative? I don't understand how you are somehow turning what I'm saying into something sinister.

Jason P said:

Byrnzie said:

Bentleyspop said:

Byrnzie said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't know. How many Americans think Hussein was responsible for 9/11? I wouodn't have thought it was vry many. Just a small number ifnreally stupid people. What does that have to do with anything?

It has to do with the fact that what many people think, especially in the U.S, doesn't always have any relation to reality.

I was under the impression that only factual based statements with links to back them up were allowed here.

What you wrote sounds more like an opinion than actual fact.

Do you have links to back up your opinion?

Yeah, I do: Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm



Happy now?

Polls from over ten years ago taken from 1,000 out of over 300,000,000 now constitute fact? Shiver me timbers.

I'm was gonna say... this poll is completely useless now.

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Forgetting the many things in their religious text that make it clear that women are not equal according to Islam, that isn't even relevant since that's not reality, and the way that Islam may have been twisted as it has intertwined with culture is what actually matters. If i gave the impression that I thought it was all about pure Islamicism, I didn't mean to.... not that it helps. Remember, I am strongly anti-organized religion. I could talk about how various branches of Christianity lead to this same problem, past and present.

BTW, your point about women praying separately (and it's often not just behind them btw. It's sometimes at the back of the room in a separate walled off room) from men because they don't want the men to think about fucking them while praying? That did not make the point I think you intended. You actually made my point.

I proved your point? Really? Interesting. Ok, congrats, you win. Send me your address so I can send you a cookie. B-)

Edit- it's never behind them, it's always separated.

I am not trying to win. I was just saying that the justification of praying separately from women is because the men will otherwise not be able to stop thinking about screwing the women says a lot about how women are viewed. And the prayer spaces for women are usually far inferior to the men's prayer spaces. They also have to enter through a separate entrance (usually the back entrance).

Sorry idris, but I have to post one more response to pjsoul. I think this does a better job of explaining it then me:

http://m.thenational.ae/arts-culture/ask-ali-why-mosques-have-separate-areas-for-women

That sounds very isolating for women compared to the men to me.

Here are a couple more articles on the subject.

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/642087-why-muslim-women-and-men-sit-separately-in-mosques.html

http://womensenews.org/story/religion/140402/mosques-relegate-womens-prayers-the-basement#.U_wnd45lBdY

The articles u posted say that barriers are NOT required in Islam between men and women during prayer. The 2nd article pretty much proved it's a culture thing with the barriers. And now I'm bored with this subject. Pjsoul, your mind is made up. Although I feel that there's more to your feelings about Islam then you're telling. Like something you hold personal against Islam. Just seems to me that you have something personal against Islam. And you have every right to. I'm just telling u my feelings I've been getting from your posts. Good luck to you.

Nope, you're wrong, and I know exactly what the articles I myself posted said. I meant to post them and read them and they make my point - sounds like you are inventing a different point on my behalf? I am happy to point out anything positive about Islam, however small. I already said that culture and religion is intertwined. And it is far from black and white. So maybe stop making assumptions and take my posts at face value instead of assuming that I thought those articles said something they didn't?? Although I think you may be having a hard time figuring out what suggests inequality for women and what doesn't?

Do I take the subjugation of women personally? Of course I do! How are you seeing that as a negative? Sorry, but is there some kind of requirement for me to be cool with everything about Islam? Or any other facet of culture and/or religion that is negative? I don't understand how you are somehow turning what I'm saying into something sinister.

Wait, WHAT? How about I just stop taking your posts period. There's so much I can come back at you with, but being that you're a lady, I'll let it go. See my Islam taught me to respect women. Have a great day.

I have no idea where your confusion is coming from. I think it's from you making some assumptions about what I'm saying and then seeing that what I posted didn't match up with them? Anyway, sure. Ignore me if you like. Geez, I hate to think about what you for some reason want to say to me that would be so disrespectful that you can't even say it. But just saying THAT feels pretty disrespectful to me, not as a lady, but as a person.