It may not be possible to guarantee a show for every one, but..... there should be an effort made to help out the faithful. I think we all would agree to that.
I think the lottery IS 10C's best solution to doing just that, as far as possible.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Actually, I don't think you get it. And you have no way of proving they have enough to guarantee everyone in a geographic area their hometown show. Maybe you feel someone that has to travel does not deserve a chance at your "hometown" show, so they should be forced to go somewhere else? Would you still be making the same argument if tickets were sold the old way and you got shut out? Do you think once a Boston area show sold out, 10c should just say to a person they have to go to Texas, or Phoenix or Charlotte, then they can give them a pair there but they have to travel?I think you feel there is more supply than demand, and that is not always the case. You could easily have chosen a city that had less demand, and chose not to. You could have gone to Spokane or Vancouver that had excess. And if I recall, after the 2nd Worcester show was added, the only people they sold them to at first were those that got shut out the 1st time. And other high demand 2 night cities you were only able to put in for one. They are trying to make the best out a situation. They are never going to guarantee anyone a show, it is simply not possible.
Thanks I'm not sure I could of said it much better myself. Most of the shows in the northeast were sold out within peoples first two picks (I don't think many rolled over to 3rd or 4th). Since each show had two picks, most of seats went to people that chose the show was "the one" they wanted to go to. There was the obvious loophole of splitting your first two choices between different cities to try and jam in ahead of people that used the first two for one show (and I think that could use a tweak) but for the most part those shows were attended by the people that said that's the show I want to go to, that's my #1/#2 pick.
It did a solid job of trying to spread out the limited tickets to different people. The only way you got tickets to other shows was if you chose shows that weren't in demand or crossed over to the other leg of tour (in which you got another #1 pick). I missed out on Seattle tickets which is something I've never experienced before, but I still think the system is fairly equitable.
When push comes to shove I would blame the band over everything. They don't play enough enough shows. If you do that in an area like the Northeast which is jam packed with big cities, then people who live in big cities not getting shows travel to big cities that are, and it's a gong show for tickets. When you compound that with fan clubs getting access to less tickets, it makes it hard on the fans.
I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
It may not be possible to guarantee a show for every one, but..... there should be an effort made to help out the faithful. I think we all would agree to that.
I don't get that? Who are the faithful? Is this animal farm? Some 10c members are more equal than others? lol.
It may not be possible to guarantee a show for every one, but..... there should be an effort made to help out the faithful. I think we all would agree to that.
I don't get that? Who are the faithful? Is this animal farm? Some 10c members are more equal than others? lol.
I figured he just meant 10C members.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
1998: Pitt
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Why not choose a realistic scenario? Almost all of not all of those shows sold out to people that had it as their first choice or 2nd choice. If you had Brooklyn as your 5th or 6th choice and did not get picked, you should not be surprised. Same with Pittsburgh, or Buffalo. They did not have enough tickets to cover everyone that had those as their first choice. They can't guarantee everyone a ticket. They don't have the supply to meet the demand. They gave everyone preferences and tried to spread out the tickets as best they could. You could have chose to gone to a less in demand show. Everyone could have. Some people did, other's didn't.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
This was an example of many people getting multiple shows that other people who picked the same shows got stiffed on. This was very realistic example. If you want, let's say PJ fan 1 gets 3 shows. I still get 0. Why do they get multiple and I get 0???
1998: Pitt
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
This was an example of many people getting multiple shows that other people who picked the same shows got stiffed on. This was very realistic example. If you want, let's say PJ fan 1 gets 3 shows. I still get 0. Why do they get multiple and I get 0???
Again,one person picked 3 shows not in demand, say Portland, Spokane, and Vancouver that did not sell out their 10c allotment and got them all. But you chose Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Brooklyn that all had extremely high demand and did not have enough to cover everyone that had them as their 1st choice, that is the 1st persons fault or 10c? No, its not.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
1998: Pitt
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.
I'm not sure you are understanding. I know people won multiple shows from the cities I listed. I did not. I am simply stating that this isn't fair in my opinion. It looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
1998: Pitt
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.
I'm not sure you are understanding. I know people won multiple shows from the cities I listed. I did not. I am simply stating that this isn't fair in my opinion. It looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I do understand. I won multiple shows, I also went after shows mostly in less demand. I won Pittsburgh as my #1. I understand I got lucky, and would have understood had I not been picked since many people had it as #1, more than they had tickets. I avoided Brooklyn for the same reason. No one won Brooklyn 1 and 2 unless they had multiple accounts. Pittsburgh sold out as a 1, Baltimore went as far up to a 2. Buffalo as a 1 or 2. Sorry that the odds did not work in your favor that time, it may in the future. I think the lottery was handled as fair as they could. They are never going to guarantee everyone a pair since it is not possible for them to do so, nor is anyone entitled to a pair.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
One of my buddies won Charlottesville Reserved as his 9th choice...He also scored Buffalo Reserved & Charlotte GA. Strategy IS the key & going for the smaller cities increases your odds of getting tickets to multiple shows!! I got Pittsburgh GA as my #1 choice in the first leg and Seattle Reserved as my #1 choice in the second leg...the only tickets I tried for!!
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I like the lottery because I oftentimes don't have the ability to f5 at 10 in the morning, and when I do take the time off just to buy tickets (PJ20 I am looking in your direction), the shit hits the fan and I get shut out anyways. I would rather get screwed knowing (hoping?) I had an equal shot, then being screwed by the life of not working a desk job.
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Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
Yes, I meant literally. Hypotheticals don't really do it for me. Did some people get luckier than others? Yeah, of course. It's a lottery! You can't win 'em all (as I well know, since I haven't. I've actually got shitty luck. Only tix I won were for a show where everyone who entered it as first pick won. Vancouver's supply met demand - yay me. :P ). Having some luck with a high demand ticket presale is par for the course though. I think there is an equal luck factor when you're refreshing over and over, competing with thousands others at the exact same time, hoping to be lucky enough to hit that little window that gets you through to the purchase page.
Anyway, for anyone who got none of the shows they entered for, that sucks. I feel bad for those who lose out. I know from experience how disappointing it is. But 1) tix can still be aquired elsewhere - if you really want to see a show, you CAN see the show, and 2) better luck next time! If any of you score big the next time around maybe you will feel a bit better.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I do like the Bruce method where you get the number in the lotto ball and the official line starts with the number drawn. This way, people don't have to line up all day...they can go to the bar, go to the fundraisers, etc.... And yeah, the thing Bruce does where the lucky few get the front area of the floor is a good idea.
As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?
But...I think part of it is finding a show that you know won't have a lot of demand. If i try for Saturday in Boston, Tuesday in NYC and Friday in Philadelphia, good luck, right? Meanwhile, if I try for Tuesday in Indianapolis and Thursday in Cincinnati, I'm sure my luck will be a bit better...I wonder if that is some of the secret to success?
Basic logic states that the first three shows in the above situation will have crazy demand (especially with fans from Europe and other international areas) and the second two shows probably won't have that demand...smaller areas, maybe less likely for international fans to get to, etc.
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As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?
I think your missing the point again. Most of these people who got tickets to multiple shows chose their hometown (or closest show) as their #1 and got tickets for the less popular shows as their other tickets. The letting everyone pick a pair first won't make much of a difference at all. Because that person is still going to pick the same show as their #1 choice. All it does is result in less people getting tickets in the smaller markets. Most of these shows ran out of tickets in the first rounds. You're assuming should a person only get 1 pair of tickets their magically going to choose a different concert as their top priority. Like people wanting to go to philly are all going to decide they want charlottesville tickets more. It's not going to happen. It makes no sense.
My good friend, who is a doctor, had to perform brain surgery on a 5 year old child during the ticket sales for MSG 2010. He informed the parents the night before he would not be at the hospital because he would be sitting by his computer f5ing all day.
Joke
F5 was fun, I enjoyed it. But the lottery gives everyone a better chance.
I do like the Bruce method where you get the number in the lotto ball and the official line starts with the number drawn. This way, people don't have to line up all day...they can go to the bar, go to the fundraisers, etc.... And yeah, the thing Bruce does where the lucky few get the front area of the floor is a good idea.
As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?
But...I think part of it is finding a show that you know won't have a lot of demand. If i try for Saturday in Boston, Tuesday in NYC and Friday in Philadelphia, good luck, right? Meanwhile, if I try for Tuesday in Indianapolis and Thursday in Cincinnati, I'm sure my luck will be a bit better...I wonder if that is some of the secret to success?
Basic logic states that the first three shows in the above situation will have crazy demand (especially with fans from Europe and other international areas) and the second two shows probably won't have that demand...smaller areas, maybe less likely for international fans to get to, etc.
i think the kiwi deserves the ticket more...instead of feeling entitled to their hometome tix they shelled out the cash to go see them!! Dont gimme that crap about being poor either, nowadays people spend 75% of their income on wasteful shit like cable tv and mtn dew
I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.
1996: 9/28 Randalls Island, 9/29 Randalls Island 1998: 8/28 Camden, 8/29 Camden 2000: 9/01 Camden, 9/02 Camden 2003: 4/28 Philadelphia. 7/05 Camden. 7/06 Camden, 7/08 New York, 7/09 New York, 7/12 Hershey 2005: 10/03 Philadelphia 2006: 5/12 Albany, 5/13 Hartford, 5/27 Camden, 5/28 Camden, 6/01 East Rutherford, 6/03 East Rutherford, 7/06 Las Vegas, 7/22 Gorge, 7/23 Gorge 2008: 6/19 Camden, 6/20 Camden, 6/22 Washington, D.C., 6/24 New York, 6/25 New York, 7/01 New York 2009: 10/27 Philadelphia, 10/28 Philadelphia, 10/30 Philadelphia, 10/31 Philadelphia 2010: 5/18 Newark 2011: 9/03 East Troy, 9/04 East Troy 2013: 7/19 Chicago, 10/19 Brooklyn, 10/21 Philadelphia, 10/22 Philadelphia 2016: 4/28 Philadelphia, 5/1 New York 2024: 9/09 Philadelphia 2025: 5/18 Pittsburgh
I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.
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We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Northeast shows may be hard to get, but if you are there, they are off the chain crazy, and I'm not sure which city has the best energy - Boston, Philly or NYC - I've seen them multiple times at all 3 places. I love being in the middle of it.
I used to arrange my life such that I could F5 when necessary, but I don't make it to multiple shows per tour anymore, and the lottery is probably the fairest thing giving more equal chance to everyone.
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I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.
Seeing that they tour the NE a whole lot more than the West, obviously it's better to be a PJ fan in the East.
But backseat, aren't you the guy who went 0/8 for the fall tour? Or was that someone else?
But no doubt, they play the NE a lot. That's what high population density will do for you. I don't think they go there for the Dunkin Donuts coffee....
But backseat, aren't you the guy who went 0/8 for the fall tour? Or was that someone else?
But no doubt, they play the NE a lot. That's what high population density will do for you. I don't think they go there for the Dunkin Donuts coffee....
Well New York is one place I've always wanted to see Pearl Jam...That and Chicago and of course Seattle.
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It did a solid job of trying to spread out the limited tickets to different people. The only way you got tickets to other shows was if you chose shows that weren't in demand or crossed over to the other leg of tour (in which you got another #1 pick). I missed out on Seattle tickets which is something I've never experienced before, but I still think the system is fairly equitable.
When push comes to shove I would blame the band over everything. They don't play enough enough shows. If you do that in an area like the Northeast which is jam packed with big cities, then people who live in big cities not getting shows travel to big cities that are, and it's a gong show for tickets. When you compound that with fan clubs getting access to less tickets, it makes it hard on the fans.
I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).
I don't get that? Who are the faithful? Is this animal farm? Some 10c members are more equal than others? lol.
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
Buffalo Reserved & Charlotte GA. Strategy IS the key & going for the smaller cities increases your odds of getting tickets to multiple shows!! I got Pittsburgh GA as my #1 choice in the first leg and Seattle Reserved as my #1 choice in the second leg...the only tickets I tried for!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Did some people get luckier than others? Yeah, of course. It's a lottery! You can't win 'em all (as I well know, since I haven't. I've actually got shitty luck. Only tix I won were for a show where everyone who entered it as first pick won. Vancouver's supply met demand - yay me. :P ). Having some luck with a high demand ticket presale is par for the course though. I think there is an equal luck factor when you're refreshing over and over, competing with thousands others at the exact same time, hoping to be lucky enough to hit that little window that gets you through to the purchase page.
Anyway, for anyone who got none of the shows they entered for, that sucks. I feel bad for those who lose out. I know from experience how disappointing it is. But 1) tix can still be aquired elsewhere - if you really want to see a show, you CAN see the show, and 2) better luck next time! If any of you score big the next time around maybe you will feel a bit better.
As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?
But...I think part of it is finding a show that you know won't have a lot of demand. If i try for Saturday in Boston, Tuesday in NYC and Friday in Philadelphia, good luck, right? Meanwhile, if I try for Tuesday in Indianapolis and Thursday in Cincinnati, I'm sure my luck will be a bit better...I wonder if that is some of the secret to success?
Basic logic states that the first three shows in the above situation will have crazy demand (especially with fans from Europe and other international areas) and the second two shows probably won't have that demand...smaller areas, maybe less likely for international fans to get to, etc.
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F5 was fun, I enjoyed it. But the lottery gives everyone a better chance.
1998: 8/28 Camden, 8/29 Camden
2000: 9/01 Camden, 9/02 Camden
2003: 4/28 Philadelphia. 7/05 Camden. 7/06 Camden, 7/08 New York, 7/09 New York, 7/12 Hershey
2005: 10/03 Philadelphia
2006: 5/12 Albany, 5/13 Hartford, 5/27 Camden, 5/28 Camden, 6/01 East Rutherford, 6/03 East Rutherford, 7/06 Las Vegas, 7/22 Gorge, 7/23 Gorge
2008: 6/19 Camden, 6/20 Camden, 6/22 Washington, D.C., 6/24 New York, 6/25 New York, 7/01 New York
2009: 10/27 Philadelphia, 10/28 Philadelphia, 10/30 Philadelphia, 10/31 Philadelphia
2010: 5/18 Newark
2011: 9/03 East Troy, 9/04 East Troy
2013: 7/19 Chicago, 10/19 Brooklyn, 10/21 Philadelphia, 10/22 Philadelphia
2016: 4/28 Philadelphia, 5/1 New York
2024: 9/09 Philadelphia
2025: 5/18 Pittsburgh
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But no doubt, they play the NE a lot. That's what high population density will do for you. I don't think they go there for the Dunkin Donuts coffee....