Lottery or No Lottery

jason_94

The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).

I would like 2 adjustments to the lottery.

First, I wish we could select a city once for a ticket & then check a box if we are interested in GA instead of having to use 2 choices on 1 city. This would also give you a chance at GA for your 2nd choice city in case you miss out on your 1st choice. That way, you're not 1 & done on a chance for GA if you are going to try & attend 2 or 3 shows (or more).

Second, who knows how much control the band or club has over it, but it would be nice if the fan club seats were all either the GA or on the lower sides and none in the reserved floor behind the GA. It's not like the seats won't sell, but hopefully they wouldn't be considered a preferred fan club seat on the back of the floor.

Leezestarr313

MayDay10 said:

I believe the best progression would be to detach the ga as on option. You put in for a show and have the option of a ga drawing from a Dropbox when you put in for tix. Then out of all those that win, they lottery off the ga tix... say they are 10% of the allocation. They would go to 10% of members 0 through 100xxx with tix, 10% of members 100001 through 200000 with tix and so forth.

This would make it much less appealing for scalpers (including those among us) to load up on extra 600xxx memberships to go for ga tix only

I like this. I always got my tickets with f5, and also didn't have to sit there trying for hours, but I also scored with the lottery. Yes, you do have to make your choices wisely. I am actually beginning to like the lottery more than F5 now. What i think is cool is that there is a little more time to think tour scenarios through. We changed our choices several times and in the end had it the way we felt most comfy with. It was much more smooth than the stress with F5.

Last fall, we had GA as well as seats. The Seattle tickets we got through ticketmaster. They were the second shittiest seats in the house (second to last row behind the stage hahaha), but we still had a great time. People who don't score can very easily get sorted afterwards. There are always people who need ticket buddies and the whole fan community is helping each other out.

With what MayDay10 suggested above, there would still be an element of surprise if you checked the box for GA.

MayDay10

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jason_94 said:

The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).

F5 wasnt all luck, trust me. I was never shut out. There was a level of dedication, persistence, and resourcefulness that went into it. There were a lot of little tricks (legal) such as clearing your temp internet files, and f5-ing the right page when you got in, and even hovering the mouse near where the BUY button will appear. You also couldnt stop until the fat lady sung.

I do like your other take on the GA "sub-lottery" that I am in favor of. I do like the idea of having a chance for in your second choice.

Im also really hate the back of the floor. Worst seats in the building IMO. Im just staring at people's backs.

Zod

MayDay10 said:

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jason_94 said:

The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).

F5 wasnt all luck, trust me. I was never shut out. There was a level of dedication, persistence, and resourcefulness that went into it. There were a lot of little tricks (legal) such as clearing your temp internet files, and f5-ing the right page when you got in, and even hovering the mouse near where the BUY button will appear. You also couldnt stop until the fat lady sung.

I do like your other take on the GA "sub-lottery" that I am in favor of. I do like the idea of having a chance for in your second choice.

Im also really hate the back of the floor. Worst seats in the building IMO. Im just staring at people's backs.

I agree about F5, but there are additional challenges these days. We have more fan club members than we did 4 or 5 years ago and less tickets. Even though F5 worked (sort of) on the tours back then, I don't think it would work as well now. The 2011 Canadian tour was sort of the nail in the coffin. You couldn't buy with F5. The website was brought to it's knees.

I never missed tickets with F5, but under the current climate I think the lotto is the more fair method. I completely agree that two lotteries per show doesn't quite work as well as it was intended. It gives people a chance to split shows and compete against people that maybe don't have tickets yet. One lotto per show would be a good tweak. Having people randomly win GA from the single lottery would work. People also wouldn't know in advance which would help prevent abuse from multiple memberships.

Back of the floor does suck. I'm 6'2 and once I find 20th row on the floor is pushing it for me. At that point I'd rather being in the wings somewhere.

MayDay10

yes. Despite my "skills", Im 100% in favor of the lottery, if what you describe is put in. As far as the separate GA one as it was last US tour, Im 100% against it.

shortstack

Zod said:

The 2011 Canadian tour was sort of the nail in the coffin. You couldn't buy with F5. The website was brought to it's knees.

i was able to get tickets for this tour with no problem, and i didn't even use f5.

pledgeagrievance

Wow more people want the lottery?

pledgeagrievance

How bout no cap on Ten Club attendance and anyone that wants to go to a show can go like 2003!!

Heisenberg

81 would hate this thread )

smak

Think the biggest thing they need to do is get rid of the two types of tickets.

Pretty silly to not get tickets if you're chosen, because you chose the wrong type of seat for your first choice.

Just have cities, with a yes/no for GA. You get picked, and there are seats left, you get them.

If you want GA and those are left, you get them.

I guess I don't mind the lottery. F5 is a lottery just in a different form.

what dreams

I love the lottery -- I've played this one by picking GA 1 / Res 2 for one low demand show, and I plan to enjoy one heck of a trip to Nebraska if I win. If I don't win the lottery, then whatever. There's more than one way to get to Nebraska.

I can appreciate that the lottery gets complicated for people who road trip to multiple shows and have many factors to consider. My tour preference is to coordinate a fuller vacation around a single show instead of following the band through multiple cities. Picking an option is easy for me.

Lost In Ohio

given2fly23 said:

Go back to the regular sales but stagger the shows. Either way we spend hours trying to get tickets or waiting for lottery results. I'd rather have some control over whether or not I get tix. Plus I strongly believe that with the lottery, a lot of people just enter for shows and think "if I get them I'll go", while with the old system you had to commit to going before you bought tix.

If they ever did go back, they'd have to keep GA and seats, as two seating options just further divides up the tickets and makes more options. Of course, they'd still have the "one pair per person per show" policy, so if you bought two, you'd be rejected one and then another sale for people who missed out the first time.

As far as the bold part, this new system, you're still having to commit. Even if you win the lotto, your card is still charged.

Lost In Ohio

smak said:

Think the biggest thing they need to do is get rid of the two types of tickets.

Pretty silly to not get tickets if you're chosen, because you chose the wrong type of seat for your first choice.

Just have cities, with a yes/no for GA. You get picked, and there are seats left, you get them.

If you want GA and those are left, you get them.

I guess I don't mind the lottery. F5 is a lottery just in a different form.

Good idea. If you click "yes" for GA, then you'd have a chance of getting them. If you click "No", then your chance of getting GA would be 0%.

Yeah... they're all essentially a lottery. My first tour was the "send in a postcard and money order for each show with your name, 10C number, address" system. Even that was a lotto.

Sarava

I'm new to the 10 club - I just joined January of last year. So this is my first attempt at getting tickets through the fan club. I'll say this - if I had my choice, I would just go to just te Moline show. I live in Chicago, so that's the best option. But hearing the odds and all that stuff, I have put my hat in the lottery for 3 different shows. I am prepared to go to all 3 if I happen to get chosen.....and will have a great time of course.

What kind of sucks to me is that I feel like I had to put in for 3 shows to at least give myself a decent chance at one show. But what if I get seats for all 3? It's great for me - but those tickets for 1 or 2 of those shows would have been better served with someone who didn't get tickets for any show....wouldn't they?

I guess it just surprises me that they would let some people get tickets to multiple shows, and have others who wanted the same shows get completely shut out. You'd think it would be easy to have the system give a pair of tickets to as many people as possible, before it starts giving people tickets to multiple shows? Their system not doing this is causing some of us (or probably a lot of us) to try to get tickets for shows we wouldn't have otherwise tried to go to. Does that make sense?

Oh well. Good luck to everyone in the lottery tomorrow!!

Halifax2TheMax

I'm currently 7 for 40 on winning the lottery since they started it, inclusive of the test runs for prizes. I'm 11 of 40 for the shows I wanted to go to, meaning I found tickets or partnered up with someone and we split or shared our success. When F5 ruled the day, I wasn't shut out until Alpine and even then, it was 18 hours of F5-ing for fan club tix and another 6 of F5 for ticket bastard tix, scoring lawn seats. I eventually traded and stubhubed for seats under the roof. Shut out of wrigley10C tix but found a way with a fellow fan club member of decent seats and a great time.

I'm resigned to the lottery and view it as I put in my choices and it's out of my hands. Better to go about my day than spend hours at a computer stressing. And if I really want to go, I'll find a way. If not, oh well. However, I'd like to see a two round selection process whereas you're notified of your winning selections and then have 5 days to confirm your attendance. It would make for more efficient planning and if you won multiple shows but only really wanted the closest to your home, you could toss them back and give someone else a shot. Anything left after the 5 day second round would go to public on sale. Not that any would be left. And I think it would be cool that if you couldn't make the show, you could notify 10C and officially donate your tickets to a local charity like boys/girls club or a random fan waiting at will call to see if tickets drop(I know it's unlikely and fraught with argument but shit happens that keeps you from attending a show).

Anyway, good luck to everyone in the lottery, safe travels and enjoy the shows!

Peace.

jopetto75

So far I'm 0 for 3 I hope that changes if it don't I will find a way like usual

Isoworld13

I am reserving my lottery opinion until 5/28. Lost EVERY Wrigley lottery 0-4 (GA Upper - RES Lower, RES Upper, "added" Lower & Upper). Won 2 out of 3 for Fall 2013 (WON Hartford #1 & Philly #3 - Lost Worcester #2) *priority choices. Put in for Denver (#1), Moline (#2), and Memphis (#3) for Fall 2014. Would HATE to lose Denver as my #1 and most wanted-more than anything-show at #1 but would feel consolidated if I won At LEAST Denver OR Moline at #1 & #2. Will be CONFUSED AS FUCK if I lose Memphis, considering the odds are 99%. If THAT happens, then I will REALLY need someone to FULLY EXPLAIN this "lottery" thing.

breath123

I long for the days when people only complained about the seats they got, not whether they got seats. I am grateful that I had almost a decade of plentiful seats that were great (those days are clearly over) and that going to a pearl jam show is low on my priority list.

i_lov_it

breath123 said:

I long for the days when people only complained about the seats they got, not whether they got seats. I am grateful that I had almost a decade of plentiful seats that were great (those days are clearly over) and that going to a pearl jam show is low on my priority list.

Yeah how far back they got or if they got Front Row or not...now it's whether they get Tickets at all lol

LC49684

Fair if you have a GOOD Number lol

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Not really...you have to be drawn first to stand a chance. And that's what I don't like about it.

Have been in the club many years and have paid more money for the privilege of retaining my number. I'm no smaller or bigger fan than anyone here. It has nothing to do with that.

But the ticket policy had remained the same since day one, so the lottery seemed to be a drastic change for long-timers with a lower number.

I won nothing the last lottery with a 189 number. Yet I see someone post here that they had won with a 400+ number for the same show. That was very difficult to accept.

Loyalty is my main issue, I guess. But I love this band and I'm along for the ride, regardless.