Lottery or No Lottery

rival9500 · May 2014

pjsteelerfan said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival9500 said:
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not

Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.

pjsteelerfan · May 2014

rival9500 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival9500 said:
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.

I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.

rival9500 · May 2014

pjsteelerfan said:

rival9500 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival9500 said:
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.

I'm not sure you are understanding. I know people won multiple shows from the cities I listed. I did not. I am simply stating that this isn't fair in my opinion. It looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

pjsteelerfan · May 2014

rival9500 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

rival9500 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival9500 said:
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.
I am just not sure you understand. It did not happen in the scenario you posted. But did in other ways. For people that went after less in demand shows.
I'm not sure you are understanding. I know people won multiple shows from the cities I listed. I did not. I am simply stating that this isn't fair in my opinion. It looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I do understand. I won multiple shows, I also went after shows mostly in less demand. I won Pittsburgh as my #1. I understand I got lucky, and would have understood had I not been picked since many people had it as #1, more than they had tickets. I avoided Brooklyn for the same reason. No one won Brooklyn 1 and 2 unless they had multiple accounts. Pittsburgh sold out as a 1, Baltimore went as far up to a 2. Buffalo as a 1 or 2. Sorry that the odds did not work in your favor that time, it may in the future. I think the lottery was handled as fair as they could. They are never going to guarantee everyone a pair since it is not possible for them to do so, nor is anyone entitled to a pair.

derbydave · May 2014

One of my buddies won Charlottesville Reserved as his 9th choice...He also scored
Buffalo Reserved & Charlotte GA. Strategy IS the key & going for the smaller cities increases your odds of getting tickets to multiple shows!! I got Pittsburgh GA as my #1 choice in the first leg and Seattle Reserved as my #1 choice in the second leg...the only tickets I tried for!!

jethrojam420 · May 2014

I like the lottery because I oftentimes don't have the ability to f5 at 10 in the morning, and when I do take the time off just to buy tickets (PJ20 I am looking in your direction), the shit hits the fan and I get shut out anyways. I would rather get screwed knowing (hoping?) I had an equal shot, then being screwed by the life of not working a desk job.

PJ_Soul · May 2014

rival9500 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival9500 said:
Okay...PJ fan A picks Baltimore, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1 and 2 and gets all except Brooklyn 2. PJ fan B picks the same shows and gets nothing. Why is this fair? Seems like bullshit to me.
Did that actually happen?
No, it did not
Yes it did. Many times in fact in one way or another.

Yes, I meant literally. Hypotheticals don't really do it for me.
Did some people get luckier than others? Yeah, of course. It's a lottery! You can't win 'em all (as I well know, since I haven't. I've actually got shitty luck. Only tix I won were for a show where everyone who entered it as first pick won. Vancouver's supply met demand - yay me. :P ). Having some luck with a high demand ticket presale is par for the course though. I think there is an equal luck factor when you're refreshing over and over, competing with thousands others at the exact same time, hoping to be lucky enough to hit that little window that gets you through to the purchase page.

Anyway, for anyone who got none of the shows they entered for, that sucks. I feel bad for those who lose out. I know from experience how disappointing it is. But 1) tix can still be aquired elsewhere - if you really want to see a show, you CAN see the show, and 2) better luck next time! If any of you score big the next time around maybe you will feel a bit better.

Lost In Ohio · May 2014

I do like the Bruce method where you get the number in the lotto ball and the official line starts with the number drawn. This way, people don't have to line up all day...they can go to the bar, go to the fundraisers, etc.... And yeah, the thing Bruce does where the lucky few get the front area of the floor is a good idea.

As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?

But...I think part of it is finding a show that you know won't have a lot of demand. If i try for Saturday in Boston, Tuesday in NYC and Friday in Philadelphia, good luck, right? Meanwhile, if I try for Tuesday in Indianapolis and Thursday in Cincinnati, I'm sure my luck will be a bit better...I wonder if that is some of the secret to success?

Basic logic states that the first three shows in the above situation will have crazy demand (especially with fans from Europe and other international areas) and the second two shows probably won't have that demand...smaller areas, maybe less likely for international fans to get to, etc.

Zod · May 2014

Lost In Ohio said:

As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?

I think your missing the point again. Most of these people who got tickets to multiple shows chose their hometown (or closest show) as their #1 and got tickets for the less popular shows as their other tickets. The letting everyone pick a pair first won't make much of a difference at all. Because that person is still going to pick the same show as their #1 choice. All it does is result in less people getting tickets in the smaller markets. Most of these shows ran out of tickets in the first rounds. You're assuming should a person only get 1 pair of tickets their magically going to choose a different concert as their top priority. Like people wanting to go to philly are all going to decide they want charlottesville tickets more. It's not going to happen. It makes no sense.

eddiec · May 2014

My good friend, who is a doctor, had to perform brain surgery on a 5 year old child during the ticket sales for MSG 2010. He informed the parents the night before he would not be at the hospital because he would be sitting by his computer f5ing all day.

Joke

F5 was fun, I enjoyed it. But the lottery gives everyone a better chance.

rgambs · May 2014

Lost In Ohio said:
I do like the Bruce method where you get the number in the lotto ball and the official line starts with the number drawn. This way, people don't have to line up all day...they can go to the bar, go to the fundraisers, etc.... And yeah, the thing Bruce does where the lucky few get the front area of the floor is a good idea.

As far as this goes, I do think it's unfair that some people get locked out of shows while other people get three or four shows. At least, everyone should be guaranteed a show "close" to them or their home show...whichever is closer. After everyone gets one show, then you go around a second time. I mean, how many of us would be pissed if we tried for one show we could walk or bicycle to and a second show we could drive to in 2-3 hours only to get locked out of both? Meanwhile, someone Australia gets a show in San Francisco and two shows in LA? What if you lived in LA and got shut out, but someone in New Zealand got that ticket?

But...I think part of it is finding a show that you know won't have a lot of demand. If i try for Saturday in Boston, Tuesday in NYC and Friday in Philadelphia, good luck, right? Meanwhile, if I try for Tuesday in Indianapolis and Thursday in Cincinnati, I'm sure my luck will be a bit better...I wonder if that is some of the secret to success?

Basic logic states that the first three shows in the above situation will have crazy demand (especially with fans from Europe and other international areas) and the second two shows probably won't have that demand...smaller areas, maybe less likely for international fans to get to, etc.

i think the kiwi deserves the ticket more...instead of feeling entitled to their hometome tix they shelled out the cash to go see them!! Dont gimme that crap about being poor either, nowadays people spend 75% of their income on wasteful shit like cable tv and mtn dew

rgambs · May 2014

joking aside though, we are lucky to have all that is given us!

jmuscatello · May 2014

pjsteelerfan said:

I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).

Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.

Bubba · May 2014

mcgruff10 said:
Lottery yes. Ga, no

+1

jmuscatello · May 2014

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JaneNY · May 2014

jmuscatello said:

pjsteelerfan said:

I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).

Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.

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We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Northeast shows may be hard to get, but if you are there, they are off the chain crazy, and I'm not sure which city has the best energy - Boston, Philly or NYC - I've seen them multiple times at all 3 places. I love being in the middle of it.

I used to arrange my life such that I could F5 when necessary, but I don't make it to multiple shows per tour anymore, and the lottery is probably the fairest thing giving more equal chance to everyone.

PJ_Soul · May 2014

jmuscatello said:

pjsteelerfan said:

I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).

Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.

Lol

backseatLover12 · May 2014

jmuscatello said:

pjsteelerfan said:

I've always wondered if it's better to be a PJ fan in the East or the West. PJ seems to play more often in the East, but it's much easier to get tickets in the Northwest (except seattle).

Wonder no more. It's better to be a PJ fan in the West. It's better to be anything in the West.

Seeing that they tour the NE a whole lot more than the West, obviously it's better to be a PJ fan in the East.

jmuscatello · May 2014

But backseat, aren't you the guy who went 0/8 for the fall tour? Or was that someone else?

But no doubt, they play the NE a lot. That's what high population density will do for you. I don't think they go there for the Dunkin Donuts coffee....

i_lov_it · May 2014

jmuscatello said:
But backseat, aren't you the guy who went 0/8 for the fall tour? Or was that someone else?

But no doubt, they play the NE a lot. That's what high population density will do for you. I don't think they go there for the Dunkin Donuts coffee....

Well New York is one place I've always wanted to see Pearl Jam...That and Chicago and of course Seattle.

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