A GAME OF THRONES - Discussion Thread

F Me In The Brain said:

Yeah, I love what they are doing with the books and dont want to see this climb down into a discussion on sexual assault but the very fact that Cersei said no repeatedly and he did it anyway makes me shake my head at their saying it wasn't forced. As PearlJamaholic stated, clearly they left something to the imagination that they thought was evident if there was something indicating that was not him forcing himself on her. Also, if memory serves, in the books it was a passionate reunion as Jamie showed up after Joff had been aced out.

i think in the book, she does want to be with him but says the septons might come in or that it's not appropriate because their son's body is right there. Jaime had just returned to King's Landing and finds her in the sept and they both want to be together..but she does try to push him away and protest, so it is sexual assult.. i need to read it again..
i'm re-reading the third book now so i'm looking forward to reading that part again..

also, i think it wasn't the showrunners/writers that said "it wasn't rape by the end". it was the director.
after watching it again, Cersei seems to give in to her desire for him from time to time while saying "it's not right" but she clearly tells him to stop. i don't think the director's intention was conveyed as well as he intended because it's clearly a rape scene..

interesting thanks for posting!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7KocHhWTwMw

A pretty honest summary of Martin's writing, haha.

I thought it was a strong episode. I am enjoying the changes from the books. And that they are referencing how much longer a period of time takes place in the show than it did in the books.

And the scene with the white walkers at the end was great. Possibly some foreshadowing of things to come.

I thought last night's was the best episode of the season so far. I was surprised to see so many people ripping it apart on the message boards, but that seems to be due to changes from the books and not wanting the show to overtake the books. I haven't read the books, so I just want a great TV show and last night certainly delivered.

We may find the answer in the coming weeks, but what happened to the non-council slave owners in Mereen? The group of people taken to get killed didn't seem that large so surely there are non council people that also owned slaves? Are they now slaves or were they killed?

If GRRM wrote all of the episodes we would NEVER get the next book, lol.

I liked it to set up the rest of the season but overall it was good for a few laughs and a few cringes. Not bad at all but not as good as the last few. Looking forward to the next one!

also, that guy was drinking wine out of mormont's skull.

where does grrm come up with this stuff??

the white walker that picked up the baby in the end reminded me of this

This may be spoiler-ish, but since last night's ending has not happened in the books I am going to post this. I have a crazy theory.

What if Coldhands (if he appears in the show, and i think he will and soon...) is an Other (white walker) created after he was an adult and still has his humanity. The Others use babies because they will never know anything other than killing and creating wights. Coldhands was an accident or something, or a Night' Watch that stumbled upon the secret... Hence the reason he is a good guy while all other Others are not.

DewieCox said:

I keep seeing people say that last scene never happened in the books, and while that actual scene never took place, I took it more as the show runners letting us in on a detail that hasn't been covered b/c of a lack of POV. I think that scene has played out several times during the timeframe of the books, but no one has reported it.


In the show summary on the HBO site, the Other that took the baby was referred to as the Night's King.

I'd rather them keep the show as close as possible to the books, but I'm not gonna complain about any extra tidbits they toss in.

You are right it probably did happen countless times off the page, but we never knew much about the Others, other than they were in some way different than wights. I think it was a pleasant surprise, I don't think it ruins or spoils anything in the grand scheme. If they killed Ghost or something like that, it would tip us readers off to what will be in future books. It does make the Lord of Light and the Great Other more interesting. That is assuming that the Others are in someway connected to the Great Other. Maybe Melisandre is right and her fanaticism is justified... We now saw the army and how they grow.