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dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
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hey there 10c..

i dont think i have to repeat what the majority thinks about this "cool" forum change
you can read about it at some threads,at the poll thread,at the one Kat start about it..
the numbersand the comments tells the truth..

i just want to say a few things i feel and realise,so you guys there at the club ,to understand why the negativity and the complains about this change..

to tell about the unfriendly thing and cant read the forum,about the lost pm and lost user names,the vilation of our privacy,u can find your friend list,cant edit post,cant delete post,just for get in return a second pj facebook acount is unnecessary..so many members said all 2 days now...

every day here,hundreds,and maybe some days a few thousands come here becouse they love this place..
cos feel to be a part of a community..a community you as fan club and the band create..
..cos they share their passion and their love for this band..
some come here only to read,some to read and post sometimes and some are fuckin post their shit all day like my self..
we are not just paid customers we think we gonna run the club cos we pay a few dollars per year and you own us something
we arent coming here only during presale tickets or during a sale of a limited edition product writes pj on it
we arent coming here cos we have the right to be in the forum cos its in our privelenge as paid members..

we are here cos our friends are here..our brothers and sisters from all over the world are here..those friends who support the club even after u fuck in shipping ,or at ticket presale
those friends we share hotels,rides with the car,buy eachother beers at the parties,share spare tickets,make travel plans together,share hotel rooms,help eachother in a charity,organize holy grails,help a fellow fan in need,say prayers for some other fan have a health problem,give free things someone searhing,help with infos when someone want to travel in a place,travel from all over the world in the middle of nowhere to celebrate with the band their birthday party..
we are not just those paid customers that post in facebook and make fun of us,"you still go to that place?..is this thing called pj forum still in play ?" and they just clik like at facebook at eddie photos..

we are here cos feels like home..we are here cos we love this home..
and we love it and care like its ours..
not cos it belong to us cos we give u a few bucks per year..not cos we want to keep our numbers and membership so we have good seats....but cos we love it and "our people " are here..

those couple of days with all those people complaining,isnt cos are against the club and only know how to bitching...
no,we are here and complaining,cos we are seeing,that "our home" is getting down..
"our home",makes us feel not wellcome...
we are complaining cos we care about this place..cos our buddies are here..cos we want to enjoy coming here and smile when we open the forum..

dont take this away form us..isnt biggie..do a step back..wasnt a success move..this things happens...so what..ask those tech people..if he can add a few things to the old forum and we all gonna forget about it and go on..

we are not just paid members and we dont like a change....

we are people who see something we love to hurt us and make us feel not wellcome..

cos 2 days know..this is exactly how i feel..

dont feel like home..you kicking me out..

with much respect and more love

Dimitris


"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    word
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,952
    dimitrispearljam said:



    dont feel like home..you kicking me out..

    Home is where you make it. Everybody know that....
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  • Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 742
    edited January 2014
    I'm still struggling to understand what was wrong with the old forum. I'm pretty sure it was vBulletin? Other than the broken avatars, that was a reliable, clean system. Did something happen license-wise that drove 10C to this new software?

    There's a lot of styling work and optimization, visually, that still needs to be done here. But it can be done, these things are not hard-coded into the forum software. It's almost as if this was rushed a bit.

    EDIT: This must be Lithium. That board is stupid expensive and not user friendly. I don't get it.
    Post edited by Mike D88 on
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  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    i completely concur with everything you said dimitris. please take to heart 10c
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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,000
    What Dimi said.
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Amen D
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  • Huskers20Huskers20 Posts: 98
    edited January 2014
    Well I wasn't going to post anything because 1 voice won't be heard but when you see dimitri posting I will echo his comments . This new lay out stinks and I will definitely be spending much less time here.

    As someone else said what was wrong with the old site it was seriously 3x better than this crap.

    Thanks dimitri for posting as a respected member maybE they will start to listen.
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  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    I hardly post here but I frequent the boards often to get a general pulse of what's going on in PJ World. With this new board I just don't see that happening anymore. For obvious reasons, it's just not easy on the eyes and it gives me a borderline headache. What makes this board better than any other is the volume of daily posts. I think this board and the community have a huge place in PJ's legacy. Without the droves of long term loyal fans this band quickly becomes a nostalgia act playing for crowds begging for Jeremy, Daughter and Last Kiss. Bottom line, don't screw up a really good thing and either get the old board back or fix the new one!
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    I agree completely.
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  • LOV2ROCKLOV2ROCK Minneapolis/St.Paul Posts: 822
    Please go back to the last one or make this one much better
  • Huskers20Huskers20 Posts: 98
    One other thing I would say is this, truly, went from a top 10% forum I visited to a bottom 10%, very quickly
  • TinAntTinAnt Posts: 343
    It's too bright
  • JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    font's too small. I'm old and crotchety. Get off my lawn!!!
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,703
    With so many posts and a pulse on what goes on here please hear DIMI out.

    I agree with his post.
  • oysterjaroysterjar NH Posts: 1,235
    I agree with D.
    Wind this thing up.

  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,362
    Early frontrunner for post of the year. Well done.
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  • Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 742
    Mike D88 said:

    EDIT: This must be Lithium. That board is stupid expensive and not user friendly. I don't get it.

    Spoke too soon, it's Vanilla. It can look at lot better than it does now.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,415
    edited January 2014
    I agree with D too.



    Why does the text have to be so small and blurry on such a bright screen?! It just hurts!!!!




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  • ceskaceska New York Posts: 1,129
    Yes, please. The threads I've been going back to in the last few days are the "new forum" threads, hoping for an announcement that, OK, we'll go back to the old one, or at the very least, a detailed explanation of why the new one is being forced upon us. Not that that would make me feel better about, but it'd be nice to see 10C respond. I'm pretty sure sure that "create a whole new forum" was not among the top 10% or even top 50% of suggestions in the Let Your Voice Be Heard thread. I just can't stomach looking through the forum as a whole as I used to. That's too bad.
  • LanternjawLanternjaw Posts: 553
    The Greek fella has it right... huzzah!
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    YES...I agree with D also
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  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Grammar anyone?
  • Out of My Mind and TimeOut of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Have visited site less with change. Just saying...
  • PJCubsPJCubs Posts: 291
    Agree 100%
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,402
    edited January 2014
    well put, dimi...

    I do feel that the plan is and has always been to eventually customize this to make it both easier to read and more "Pearl Jammy"

    I think that's what Kat was referring to in the new board discussion post:

    "There will be an adjustment period while we all learn how to navigate around and discover the new features and how things work. Hang in there and enjoy the experience of discovery with us!"

    We're still in beta mode, basically.
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  • PJForceofNaturePJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    I agree with everything Dimitris said too.
    "A beacon on dry land"
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    I agree Dimi.

    It's a new house, and we're supposed to figure it out and learn how to get around.
    I won't be spending much time at 'home' now.
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  • PJForceofNaturePJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    The whole situation just leaves me very very sad...
    "A beacon on dry land"
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,397
    Please improve things, Tenclub. We love this place!
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,660
    I definitely echo his concerns. I also kind of feel that this is the beginning of the end....
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