Dear Ed, There is a such thing as a Responsible Gun Owner...

Marcus Maximus wrote:

When american's finally decide to get rid of guns then it will be a saver country, why is a country so stuck on a piece of paper wrote 300 odd years ago, same with the loons who follow the bible word for word. Why like your life dedicated to old doctrine that suited a time and place. Does it not make sense to evaluate modern society and base laws on that.

it's called an amendment. there's 27 of them. and ireland is the the model of non-violence. I heard londonderry (or derry) has always been a quiet peaceful place.

Posts like this make me laugh a little where we have people backing Ed for having the right to say whatever he wants and then turn around and rip the guy who shared an opinion that's different than yours.

Like someone said earlier, my only issue is wishing bad karma on Ed. I don;t want to see what would happen to the 10c server if we all had to get refunds ;-). But as far as his post? Agree or disagree, his opinion is held by many resonable people. It's a "hot" argument and those are sometimes the best because both sides have logical claims for being correct.

As someone said, you view of the world does change dramatically as you get older - look no further than our favorite band for poof of that. For some, that means they go to extreme measures to protect their families.

But at the end of the day, there are way to many opportunities to go places to read name calling and indignant arguing. Dudes, the tour starts next week. It's all sunshine and gumdrops right now!

Indian Summer wrote:

In response to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/0 ... 59887.html

Ed,

While I fully support your use of freedom of speech over the years, your statement in this interview is of pure ignorance. I'm not going to debate gun control or the politics around it, its your choice to not own a gun and I fully support that. But to wish harm on gun control opponents? I hope karma takes a big bite out of your ass on that comment alone.

I own and legally conceal carry 1 handgun. I do not hunt, it is not used for sport, it is simply for the protection of my family. My gun is never seen by my children, and it's "never fucking laying around". I know where this gun is 24/7. This gun was purchased in the wake of the Colorado Movie Theater shooting, and the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting after I had recently become a father. Not only would I die for my children, but I would also Kill for them. Apparently, you do not value your children as highly as I do, which is a shame.

I hope my gun is never used in the manner in which it is intended, but the world is a crazy place and i will never hesitate to protect my family.

This law abiding, licensed gun owner and supporter will see you in the PIT at both Philly shows. You can expect a middle finger on night one from me for your ignorance.

You are still going to the shows though. I'm sorry but that's ignorant. It's his humble opinion. I have an opinion for you but i wont elaborate since i have been blocked for past posts and dont want any bad karma. lol.....

Indian Summer wrote:

Apparently, you do not value your children as highly as I do, which is a shame.

This is quite probably the arrogant line I have ever read in 16 years on this site and Synergy.

Indian Summer wrote:

I want to thank those of you who recognize that it's acceptable to have a difference of opinion from Ed yet still be a fan of the band, and I feel even Ed would even appreciate me speaking up for my differing beliefs.

I realize I posted this after being upset by Ed's interview rant, and it invoked a response....in my case a negative one. Out of respect to the other fans and the band there will be no bird flipping in Philly, and I also retract the statement which i implied non gun owners don't want to protect their kids. But I stand by the rest of my statement.

For those of you who tried to paint a negative/angry image of me, you'd be surprised at how wrong you are.

Carry on.

Thank you for not flipping EV the bird. You are entitled to your opinion, and I happen to respect it, as I respect everyone's opinion. Many of us support the constitution and the 2nd Amendment. I am just a fan who wants to escape and enjoy the music, not be worried that all hell breaks loose in the GA area if someone makes an inappropriate gesture, etc. We ALL have the responsibility to look out for each other and to make sure we feel safe among each other in the close quarters of a concert setting. For a few hours during these shows, we should all exercise extreme caution/control with our emotions and our behaviors. Its who we are. Who you are.


Edit to add... I would consider you more of a 'responsible' gun owner if you demonstrated greater control of what you say and the manner in which you say it. You came on this forum, threatened to give EV the bird (potentially starting a ruckus in the GA section) and in reality you reacted to what EV said in a very emotional way without even understanding the true context to which EV was speaking about. This is what has always alarmed me about the gun crowd, many are just as trigger happy with their words and if you can't control your words how can you call yourself a responsible gun owner?

A little bit of advice... use the "24 hour" rule. In these types of situations, think about what you want to say and then refrain for 24 hours. Guaranteed you won't feel the same after 24 hours. If more people applied this same logic to every thing they wanted to say there would be less arguments around here.
peace.

Wow his statement was completely missed by so many people. Sure, it was poorly worded, but the point is that guns kill innocent people on accident every day and nothing is being done about it, NOTHING. He didn't even mention the mass shootings that happen EVERY DAY, the news doesn't even make them a story anymore because they're so common.

There are responsible guns owners, many of them, there are also tons or irresponsible ones that think they're toys. It's also way too easy to get them.

Personal - I don't know about you but when I see someone carrying a handgun in Target I get the hell outta there, I don't trust you or your decision making, period. Cops have training, degrees, and they don't even make the right decision all the time.

Saw a facebook post that someone was completely removing PJ from their life, covering tattoo's etc, because of this statement. Absolutely ridiculous, why throw away good music. Made me think of the typical Republican overreaction. (Example a law passed we don't like, let's shut down the government and screw over millions of people because we didn't get our way, wahhh).

There's a big misconception in Canada that guns are illegal. They really aren't. It's just there alot of BS involved in getting permits, licensing and what not.

The "red tape" makes is so the average joe doesn't bother getting a gun which means a lot of people don't have easy access to guns. If your a hunter and need a rifle or even if you want a handgun you can actually get one (unless maybe you have a criminal record or are certifiable).

I always thought it was a good way to do it. It's such a PIA to get one that it does keep a lot of guns out of peoples hands, but if people really want one, they can pretty much get one.

I always believed in the saying that Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but I also believe that guns make it way to easy.

I also find it crazy in the US how postal they went after 9/11 with terrorism, yet the leading killer of Americans in America is other Americans.

I also seem to read the 2nd amendment differently then a lot of people. It says something like:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It always seemed to me that was geared towards the whole idea of US dependance. IE the constitution was designed so that a monarchy (or dictatorship) style government couldn't occur in the US. IE the right to bear arms is provided in order to protect the state.

I guess they didn't word that as well as they could of. The spirit of what they were trying to do was there, but the first part feels like a comment, and the last part blanket says the right should not be infringed (which is probably why subsequent supreme court rulings have protect the rights of individuals to bear arms). I'm not sure that was in the spirit of the amendment, but there's alot of things the forefather's couldn't of predicted all those years ago when they wrote all of that stuff....

So where was I going with all this? I dunno. I like the Canadian way. Don't make guns illegal, just put a pile of red tape between people and their guns.

I just can't believe that they put Sleeping By Myself on Lightning Bolt!!!

(every other thread includes this from someone :P )

a5pj wrote:

Wow his statement was completely missed by so many people. Sure, it was poorly worded, but the point is that guns kill innocent people on accident every day and nothing is being done about it, NOTHING. He didn't even mention the mass shootings that happen EVERY DAY, the news doesn't even make them a story anymore because they're so common.

There are responsible guns owners, many of them, there are also tons or irresponsible ones that think they're toys. It's also way too easy to get them.

Personal - I don't know about you but when I see someone carrying a handgun in Target I get the hell outta there, I don't trust you or your decision making, period. Cops have training, degrees, and they don't even make the right decision all the time.

Saw a facebook post that someone was completely removing PJ from their life, covering tattoo's etc, because of this statement. Absolutely ridiculous, why throw away good music. Made me think of the typical Republican overreaction. (Example a law passed we don't like, let's shut down the government and screw over millions of people because we didn't get our way, wahhh).

So the liberal fans would be fine with Eddie saying he was anti abortion?

10ctoronto wrote:

I agree with CitizenRick. Look at countries that ban guns, like Japan, much safer! I think the poster should be banned from the Pearl Jam show with his opinion of Ed. I do not think Ed cares about your stupid opinion, hillbilly! Poster has fallen victim to fear-mongering or Hollywood glamorization. I think you are more likely to be shot if you have a weapon.

Name calling....... :nono: