Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?
Beth and Dave A never existed.
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Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?
very suspicious..
but either way.. they couldn't tell us that the show's incomplete before they start taking money for it?
sigh.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
Just had a response fro 10c saying that the songs are not included/complete due 'to tape limitations of the time'
so I guess that is a no for YL.
Still happy to have some live PJ on vinyl tho.
That's cool that they have responded but I do feel they should have stated this before putting the product on sale.
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Yep. Jack did the Australia tour and then quit and Matt stepped in 3 weeks before the US tour if memory serves me correctly.
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I ran out to my truck, turned on XM 22 just to hear another live concert. I'm back inside now, on the friggin website that sucks so much of my time... sitting with 49 items in my shopping cart... the hell is wrong with this??? :fp:
after I posted that I saw 93... It seems people are lazy to log in...
Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?
Could be, but that doesn't explain why push me pull me is not complete
Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?
Could be, but that doesn't explain why push me pull me is not complete
I guess if the tape cut off half way through the song, you only get half the song.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
wonder if this is going to be the artwork for Vinyl
it should totally be...
wasn't Orpheum vinyl "Vault #1"? kind of liked that look better myself
Vault #1 was the CD given away to 10C members at Alpine Valley shows, East Troy, WI, Sep 3rd and Sep 4th, 2011. Drop in the park vinyl and Boston Orpheum vinyl+cd were goodies from the box sets. Vault #2 was Vic Theatre show on Aug 2nd, 2007.
... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...
Vault #1 was the CD given away to 10C members at Alpine Valley shows, East Troy, WI, Sep 3rd and Sep 4th, 2011. Drop in the park vinyl and Boston Orpheum vinyl+cd were goodies from the box sets. Vault #2 was Vic Theatre show on Aug 2nd, 2007.
gotcha...Vault 1 was Moore show...got confused. Too much shit going on here today. (in a good way)
This is the vote for choice show, right? I think I remember buying a bootlegged VHS of this show back in '98-'99. If I recall correctly, EV used the microphone stand to smash through the wooden floor of the stage, crawled through the hole and that was how he made his exit. Totally epic.
You know, Joe Blow taper out in the audience can always seem to get the complete show so I don't understand why PJ's "professional" tapers can't. There sure are a lot of these "tape limitations" with all these shows they decide to release. Did they get any complete shows?
You know, Joe Blow taper out in the audience can always seem to get the complete show so I don't understand why PJ's "professional" tapers can't. There sure are a lot of these "tape limitations" with all these shows they decide to release. Did they get any complete shows?
there was a AET episode that explained alot of this...I'll have to dig it up & post it
So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.
You should try downloading again to make sure that you received the file correctly. The link should be in your order history if you don't have it anymore.
Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50
I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...
Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!
Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50
I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...
Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!
Cheers dude for the info :thumbup:
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very suspicious..
but either way.. they couldn't tell us that the show's incomplete before they start taking money for it?
sigh.
That's cool that they have responded but I do feel they should have stated this before putting the product on sale.
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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I ran out to my truck, turned on XM 22 just to hear another live concert. I'm back inside now, on the friggin website that sucks so much of my time... sitting with 49 items in my shopping cart... the hell is wrong with this??? :fp:
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Yep. Jack did the Australia tour and then quit and Matt stepped in 3 weeks before the US tour if memory serves me correctly.
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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The North American shows, yes. Jack left after the Australian tour.
ok...seem to remember Jeff saying on AET that Jack was struggling during that Aussie tour.
it should totally be...
well done...
after I posted that I saw 93... It seems people are lazy to log in...
I think I've seen about this in a movie... :corn:
Could be, but that doesn't explain why push me pull me is not complete
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wasn't Orpheum vinyl "Vault #1"? kind of liked that look better myself
I guess if the tape cut off half way through the song, you only get half the song.
Vault #1 was the CD given away to 10C members at Alpine Valley shows, East Troy, WI, Sep 3rd and Sep 4th, 2011. Drop in the park vinyl and Boston Orpheum vinyl+cd were goodies from the box sets. Vault #2 was Vic Theatre show on Aug 2nd, 2007.
there was a AET episode that explained alot of this...I'll have to dig it up & post it
I was told only yellow ledbetter, and there is some fade-in in the middle of push me pull me...
You should try downloading again to make sure that you received the file correctly. The link should be in your order history if you don't have it anymore.
Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!
Cheers dude for the info :thumbup:
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/