Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!

Blredyellow

It sounds SO good. 'bout to start dancing around the room.

Spoken

Listening to XM Sirius PJ Radio DC show now...

Spiritual_Chaos

darthvedder wrote:

Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?

Beth and Dave A never existed.

DPrival78

darthvedder wrote:

Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?

very suspicious..

but either way.. they couldn't tell us that the show's incomplete before they start taking money for it?

sigh.

boyo79

rw160510 wrote:

Just had a response fro 10c saying that the songs are not included/complete due 'to tape limitations of the time'
so I guess that is a no for YL.

Still happy to have some live PJ on vinyl tho.

That's cool that they have responded but I do feel they should have stated this before putting the product on sale.

pjradio

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Spiritual_Chaos

pjradio wrote:

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Yeah, didn't he drum on all of the 1998 tour?

evsgjamm

javis el errante wrote:

not that it is of any importance, but...

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boyo79

pjradio wrote:

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Yep. Jack did the Australia tour and then quit and Matt stepped in 3 weeks before the US tour if memory serves me correctly.

mydogmookieblaylock

btw - I bought the vinyl. 17 per LP roughly. Just had to act like my money means something to me before i could do it

darthvedder

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

pjradio wrote:

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Yeah, didn't he drum on all of the 1998 tour?

The North American shows, yes. Jack left after the Australian tour.

dustinpardue

Anyone else having trouble with the zip file?

pjradio

boyo79 wrote:

pjradio wrote:

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Yep. Jack did the Australia tour and then quit and Matt stepped in 3 weeks before the US tour if memory serves me correctly.

ok...seem to remember Jeff saying on AET that Jack was struggling during that Aussie tour.

javis el errante

pjradio wrote:

wonder if this is going to be the artwork for Vinyl

it should totally be...

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

well done...

evsgjamm wrote:

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I ran out to my truck, turned on XM 22 just to hear another live concert. I'm back inside now, on the friggin website that sucks so much of my time... sitting with 49 items in my shopping cart... the hell is wrong with this??? :fp:

after I posted that I saw 93... It seems people are lazy to log in...

boyo79 wrote:

pjradio wrote:

was Matt hired as the drummer at this point?

Yep. Jack did the Australia tour and then quit and Matt stepped in 3 weeks before the US tour if memory serves me correctly.

I think I've seen about this in a movie... :corn:

NewJPage

darthvedder wrote:

Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?

Could be, but that doesn't explain why push me pull me is not complete

Hub.

Preordered.

pjradio

javis el errante wrote:

pjradio wrote:

wonder if this is going to be the artwork for Vinyl

it should totally be...

wasn't Orpheum vinyl "Vault #1"? kind of liked that look better myself

pjsteelerfan

NewJPage wrote:

darthvedder wrote:

Tape limitations? Reading the concert chronology over at Two Feet Thick for this show, there seems to be a lot of Beth content before Yellow Ledbetter. I really hope this isn't the reason it's not included (after all, they could have just cut the stuff before the song and included the song), but then again, it's not the first time we've seen revisionist history by the band when it comes to Beth content. MTV Unplugged?

Could be, but that doesn't explain why push me pull me is not complete

I guess if the tape cut off half way through the song, you only get half the song.

javis el errante

pjradio wrote:

javis el errante wrote:

pjradio wrote:

wonder if this is going to be the artwork for Vinyl

it should totally be...

wasn't Orpheum vinyl "Vault #1"? kind of liked that look better myself

Vault #1 was the CD given away to 10C members at Alpine Valley shows, East Troy, WI, Sep 3rd and Sep 4th, 2011. Drop in the park vinyl and Boston Orpheum vinyl+cd were goodies from the box sets. Vault #2 was Vic Theatre show on Aug 2nd, 2007.

pjradio

javis el errante wrote:

Vault #1 was the CD given away to 10C members at Alpine Valley shows, East Troy, WI, Sep 3rd and Sep 4th, 2011. Drop in the park vinyl and Boston Orpheum vinyl+cd were goodies from the box sets. Vault #2 was Vic Theatre show on Aug 2nd, 2007.

gotcha...Vault 1 was Moore show...got confused. Too much shit going on here today. (in a good way)

surforia

This is the vote for choice show, right? I think I remember buying a bootlegged VHS of this show back in '98-'99. If I recall correctly, EV used the microphone stand to smash through the wooden floor of the stage, crawled through the hole and that was how he made his exit. Totally epic.

Of The Aggie

You know, Joe Blow taper out in the audience can always seem to get the complete show so I don't understand why PJ's "professional" tapers can't. There sure are a lot of these "tape limitations" with all these shows they decide to release. Did they get any complete shows?

javis el errante

I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape... :fp: :nono: :lolno: :thumbup: :wave:

pjradio

Of The Aggie wrote:

You know, Joe Blow taper out in the audience can always seem to get the complete show so I don't understand why PJ's "professional" tapers can't. There sure are a lot of these "tape limitations" with all these shows they decide to release. Did they get any complete shows?

there was a AET episode that explained alot of this...I'll have to dig it up & post it

dustinpardue

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

javis el errante

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

I was told only yellow ledbetter, and there is some fade-in in the middle of push me pull me...

darthvedder

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

You should try downloading again to make sure that you received the file correctly. The link should be in your order history if you don't have it anymore.

NHiding

Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50

I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

boyo79

NHiding wrote:

Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50

I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

Cheers dude for the info :thumbup:

Spoken

Sounds great on Sirius XM!