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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    hedonist wrote:
    I believe they were brought in after Sandy Hook too.

    What sweet faces - and I love how the middle one refuses to be distracted by what's happening to her right.

    I think they were there for the first day back at school for the kids in Newtown.


    Just a really great program, and so simple when you think about it.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
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    I don't know who provides Comfort Dogs or how the service works. But they are here and they are a great idea.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    check this out...

    i'm not saying these ricin letters are related to the marathon bombing, but someone posted the other ricin article in this thread yesterday so i thought i would follow it up here.

    the timing is interesting though. just like the anthrax letters after 9/11.

    Letter sent to Obama tests positive for ricin, officials say

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04 ... s-say?lite

    A letter addressed to President Barack Obama tested positive for the poison ricin and was from the same sender who mailed a letter to a senator that also tested positive, officials told NBC News on Wednesday.

    The letter to Obama was intercepted at an off-site White House mail facility and was being tested further, a Secret Service official told NBC News. A federal law enforcement official said that the letter was “very similar” to one addressed to Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., that tested positive in preliminary screening for ricin.

    Authorities cleared the atrium of a Senate office building Wednesday, but it was not immediately apparent why. Capitol police were also investigating a suspicious package at the office of Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala. Shelby’s staff had not been evacuated.

    Federal officials told NBC News that they believe they know who sent the letters, but no arrest was made, and authorities were waiting for further test results.

    Ricin is made from castor beans and can kill within 36 hours. There is no antidote. Some threatening letters simply contain ground castor beans, resulting in a positive field test for ricin without the concentrated poison. Results from full laboratory tests are expected in the next 24 to 48 hours.

    An FBI official told NBC News that the agency did not initially believe the letters were related to the attack on the Boston Marathon on Monday.

    The letter to Obama was received at the mail facility Tuesday, the official said. The FBI said Tuesday that a letter intended for Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., had initially tested positive for ricin.

    The Wicker letter was intercepted at a postal facility in Maryland that screens mail sent to Congress, and never reached Wicker’s office. The senator thanked law enforcement and said an investigation was underway but did not elaborate.

    Other senators were made aware of the Wicker letter during a briefing Tuesday evening on the bombing in Boston. Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said that the person who sent Wicker the letter writes often to elected officials.

    The Wicker letter was postmarked Memphis, Tenn., and had no return addres.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    refresh my memory werent the anthrax letters traced back to "govt officials"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JC29856 wrote:
    refresh my memory werent the anthrax letters traced back to "govt officials"
    i don't remember. i think some scientist or researcher who worked in a government funded research lab was a suspect but i don't remember the outcome of that. there was too much going on after 9/11 that i forgot the outcome. guess i can google it when i get more time between patients.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    JC29856 wrote:
    refresh my memory werent the anthrax letters traced back to "govt officials"

    The FBI was pretty convinced that this guy was responsible. But no charges were ever filed and it was less than an open and shut case.

    http://www.herald-dispatch.com/x1356143 ... ts-suicide

    I saw a documentary a few years ago that made a pretty convincing case that he did not do it. So who knows what really happened?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JimmyV wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    refresh my memory werent the anthrax letters traced back to "govt officials"

    The FBI was pretty convinced that this guy was responsible. But no charges were ever filed and it was less than an open and shut case.

    http://www.herald-dispatch.com/x1356143 ... ts-suicide

    I saw a documentary a few years ago that made a pretty convincing case that he did not do it. So who knows what really happened?
    i remember that now. thanks for the refresher :D
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    If this is homegrown I would be very surprised.

    If it is a foreign attack then we really only have ourselves to blame. Yes I blame us. Our foreign policies cripple those that aren't in our back pocket, and we pay off the rest to be our friends. Maybe if we weren't the empire of the world. Maybe if we weren't shooting missiles from drones in Pakistan killing 50 civilians for every labled terrorist. I'm guessing that those Pakistanis view a drone strike on their sovereign nation as a terrorist attack.

    Those that support this foreign policy are to blame if it is a foreign attack.

    Why would you be surprised?

    Look at this very forum and the amount of people that have threatened revolution and various other things in reaction to the idea of change. I don't think anyone here really means it... but think of the extreme kooks who do. These types have lashed out before- it's not unreasonable to consider by any means.

    This is all speculative at this point and until the rats are weeded out... our energies are probably best served supporting those affected.

    Just a horrible event.

    Because I'd agree with what someone else said, if it was homegrown why attack civilians? Homegrown go after government properties and people. The anger is directed there.

    What's wrong with discussion on why this happened? Yeah we support the ones that got hurt but to not discuss the why doesn't make sense to me. We aren't out there making accusations about specific groups.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    events like the marathon bombing and 9/11 bring the kooks out.

    when we, or terrorist organizations bomb civilians in foreign countries to people respond by sending poison laced letters to government officials? we never ever hear anything about that. :think:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    the sad thing is some people take this guy seriously :fp:

    Alex Jones raises ‘false flag’ conspiracy after Boston Marathon bombings

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fal ... 42713.html

    While the country was trying to process the terror as it unfolded at the Boston Marathon on Monday, Alex Jones, a right-wing radio host, took to Twitter to express his sympathy for the victims—and to claim that the attack was part of a government conspiracy.

    "Our hearts go out to those that are hurt or killed," Jones wrote. "But this thing stinks to high heaven #falseflag."

    The "false flag" attack Jones was referring to is a term that originated during naval warfare. "For centuries, ships have sailed under a flag identifying their nationality," The Atlantic Wire noted. "During times of war, ships would sometimes change the national flag they flew in order to fool other vessels that they sought to attack or escape from. They would fly, in other words, a 'false flag.'"

    Jones suggested that the FBI orchestrated the bombings under the false flag of a terrorist organization in order to justify expanded security powers. The Boston attack, he theorized, was staged by the U.S. government to extend the reach of both the Dept. of Homeland Security and Transportation Security Administration.

    "Just wait folks," the 39-year-old Texan wrote. "#TSA groping you at sporting events coming soon."

    Jones posted a YouTube video further fanning the false-flag flames, saying that reports of a "controlled explosion” drill, scheduled to coincide with the race, was proof that the FBI was behind the Boston Marathon blasts.

    “I said on air that they’re getting ready to blow something up," Jones said on his radio show later on Monday, according to Salon.com. "To fire a shot heard round the world like at Lexington and Concord, and then they do it at this same place on the same day!”

    While the FBI could "blame it on the Muslims," Jones predicted "they’re going to blame it on the Tea Party.”

    During a press conference on Monday afternoon, Dan Bidondi, a radio host for Jones' InfoWars.com, asked Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick if the explosions were staged.

    "Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?" Bidondi asked. :fp:

    "No," Patrick responded. "Next question."

    On Tuesday, Jones led the charge in perpetuating another conspiracy theory, tweeting a link to a strategically-edited YouTube clip of a "Family Guy" episode that he claimed "predicted" the Boston Marathon attack.

    Via the Hollywood Reporter:


    "Turban Cowboy," which premiered in the U.S. on March 17, culminates with a scene depicting Peter Griffin accidentally blowing up a bridge by dialing a terrorist's cell phone. But in the video making the rounds online, the cell phone scene is placed immediately after an unrelated moment in the episode when Bob Costas, voicing himself, asks Peter how he won the Boston Marathon.

    The clip was pulled from YouTube, Fox removed the episode from Hulu, and Seth MacFarlane, the show's creator, responded to the conspiracy claim.

    "The edited Family Guy clip currently circulating is abhorrent," MacFarlane wrote on Twitter. "The event was a crime and a tragedy, and my thoughts are with the victims."

    But Jones, figuratively draped in his false flag, was undeterred.

    "Seth MacFarlane created a cartoon which made fun of terrorist bombings and depicted mutilated Boston Marathon runners," Jones responded. "Yet he is labeling people who merely talk about the episode as 'abhorrent.'"
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    events like the marathon bombing and 9/11 bring the kooks out.

    when we, or terrorist organizations bomb civilians in foreign countries to people respond by sending poison laced letters to government officials? we never ever hear anything about that. :think:

    Not sure the bombing brought the kooks out, as the timing is interesting... The letters were received Tuesday, postmarked from Tennessee. They would have likely been sent before the bombing happened.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    edited April 2013
    the sad thing is some people take this guy seriously :fp:

    Alex Jones raises ‘false flag’ conspiracy after Boston Marathon bombings

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fal ... 42713.html

    While the country was trying to process the terror as it unfolded at the Boston Marathon on Monday, Alex Jones, a right-wing radio host, took to Twitter to express his sympathy for the victims—and to claim that the attack was part of a government conspiracy.

    "Our hearts go out to those that are hurt or killed," Jones wrote. "But this thing stinks to high heaven #falseflag."

    The "false flag" attack Jones was referring to is a term that originated during naval warfare. "For centuries, ships have sailed under a flag identifying their nationality," The Atlantic Wire noted. "During times of war, ships would sometimes change the national flag they flew in order to fool other vessels that they sought to attack or escape from. They would fly, in other words, a 'false flag.'"

    Jones suggested that the FBI orchestrated the bombings under the false flag of a terrorist organization in order to justify expanded security powers. The Boston attack, he theorized, was staged by the U.S. government to extend the reach of both the Dept. of Homeland Security and Transportation Security Administration.

    "Just wait folks," the 39-year-old Texan wrote. "#TSA groping you at sporting events coming soon."

    Jones posted a YouTube video further fanning the false-flag flames, saying that reports of a "controlled explosion” drill, scheduled to coincide with the race, was proof that the FBI was behind the Boston Marathon blasts.

    “I said on air that they’re getting ready to blow something up," Jones said on his radio show later on Monday, according to Salon.com. "To fire a shot heard round the world like at Lexington and Concord, and then they do it at this same place on the same day!”

    While the FBI could "blame it on the Muslims," Jones predicted "they’re going to blame it on the Tea Party.”

    During a press conference on Monday afternoon, Dan Bidondi, a radio host for Jones' InfoWars.com, asked Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick if the explosions were staged.

    "Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?" Bidondi asked. :fp:

    "No," Patrick responded. "Next question."

    On Tuesday, Jones led the charge in perpetuating another conspiracy theory, tweeting a link to a strategically-edited YouTube clip of a "Family Guy" episode that he claimed "predicted" the Boston Marathon attack.

    Via the Hollywood Reporter:


    "Turban Cowboy," which premiered in the U.S. on March 17, culminates with a scene depicting Peter Griffin accidentally blowing up a bridge by dialing a terrorist's cell phone. But in the video making the rounds online, the cell phone scene is placed immediately after an unrelated moment in the episode when Bob Costas, voicing himself, asks Peter how he won the Boston Marathon.

    The clip was pulled from YouTube, Fox removed the episode from Hulu, and Seth MacFarlane, the show's creator, responded to the conspiracy claim.

    "The edited Family Guy clip currently circulating is abhorrent," MacFarlane wrote on Twitter. "The event was a crime and a tragedy, and my thoughts are with the victims."

    But Jones, figuratively draped in his false flag, was undeterred.

    "Seth MacFarlane created a cartoon which made fun of terrorist bombings and depicted mutilated Boston Marathon runners," Jones responded. "Yet he is labeling people who merely talk about the episode as 'abhorrent.'"

    Conspiracies are how he makes his money. His first reaction was to raise the possibility of a conspiracy. While the rest of us were in shock he was tending to his business.

    I do not know who did it. I do not know if it was domestic or foreign. But I do know that there are those who will never accept the truth because it goes against their preconceived ideas and political notions. We saw this after Sandy Hook, we are seeing it after Boston.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    From the Taliban

    “We believe in attacking the US and its allies but we are not involved in this attack."
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    It's also possible that the person who did this was simply a sadistic crazy person who likes bombs, and not someone with a clear agenda. Who knows? I sure don't have any ideas until there is something to base them on.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    It's also possible that the person who did this was simply a sadistic crazy person who likes bombs, and not someone with a clear agenda. Who knows? I sure don't have any ideas until there is something to base them on.

    We just don't know... he obviously wanted to really fuck a lot of people up... being that he made grapeshot bombs.

    Insane
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598

    During a press conference on Monday afternoon, Dan Bidondi, a radio host for Jones' InfoWars.com, asked Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick if the explosions were staged.

    "Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?" Bidondi asked. :fp:

    "No," Patrick responded. "Next question."

    I am not Governor Patrick's biggest fan and I have never voted for him but I thought he handled that question perfectly.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    CNN is reporting that the FBI has identified a suspect. FBI conference at 1:30
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Jason P wrote:
    CNN is reporting that the FBI has identified a suspect. FBI conference at 1:30
    :corn: (except not smiling)
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Jason P wrote:
    CNN is reporting that the FBI has identified a suspect. FBI conference at 1:30
    i just saw that..called "lonely wolf"?
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    edited April 2013
    Wondering if it is this guy?

    EDIT:

    I took the photo down in case it is not a guy. Apologies if I contributed to a witch hunt.
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