Pearl Jam turned Better Man into a cream puff song

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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    whispering hands wrote:
    Lol!! That's ok.. My
    Original post was WAAAAAAY more serious TIL I read
    SPEEDY's post! Which made me almost choke on a sandwich
    reading!! BBH I love that you're taking the shit ass end of most
    Of our responses so well!! You're a good man!! A good fan!! And gosh
    darn it people like you!! Ok.. Seriously need to go be a shit somewhere
    else now!! Love ya man!!
    thanks, I have an opinion, I realized it could be unpopular, I think some awareness was raised, and I think the next time the song is played and we are all singing it, it may be even more special, and at least a few people stopped to think, and that is never a bad thing
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    whispering hands wrote:
    Lol!! That's ok.. My
    Original post was WAAAAAAY more serious TIL I read
    SPEEDY's post! Which made me almost choke on a sandwich
    reading!! BBH I love that you're taking the shit ass end of most
    Of our responses so well!! You're a good man!! A good fan!! And gosh
    darn it people like you!! Ok.. Seriously need to go be a shit somewhere
    else now!! Love ya man!!
    thanks, I have an opinion, I realized it could be unpopular, I think some awareness was raised, and I think the next time the song is played and we are all singing it, it may be even more special, and at least a few people stopped to think, and that is never a bad thing
    Amen!! :-)
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    boyo79 wrote:
    About 90% of Pearl Jam songs aren't positive songs or issues. OP, go have a look at what the songs on Ten and Vs are about....

    Whilst Ed wrote Betterman about domestic abuse, the listener is entitled to interpret the meaning of the song themselves and it may mean something else to them than what it does to you. And that is ok. If a couple choose it as their wedding song that's ok. It clearly means something to them. Not everyone reads into the lyrics, some people just enjoy a song for what it is. And Betterman is a very good pop song.

    Hey, and people still listen to Born in the USA and think it is a patriotic song...

    And this:
    Tom K wrote:

    451617182_4e64530312_o.jpg

    ...looks yummie. What can I say, nice creamy and puffy on the inside...
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    that was one of the kewlist live video's I have ever seen.

    WOW!


    the real Better Man R.I.P. 1994-2000 :cry:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPBhbCbWrY4

    I don't know which link you meant but the VH1 is simply boring.

    I wish I was at that show... Now I need to build that time machine. Dang it. :lol:
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    STAYSEA wrote:
    that was one of the kewlist live video's I have ever seen.

    WOW!


    the real Better Man R.I.P. 1994-2000 :cry:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPBhbCbWrY4

    I don't know which link you meant but the VH1 is simply boring.

    I wish I was at that show... Now I need to build that time machine. Dang it. :lol:
    no I made it's own thread
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    I'm very glad you did. I have never seen this until now. THANK YOU!!!!!
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    STAYSEA wrote:
    I'm very glad you did. I have never seen this until now. THANK YOU!!!!!
    Your Welcome, I felt if ever one video of a single song deserved it's own thread it was definitely that one
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    And It's a GREAT one!!! :D

    If you help and sing it,,, You only make Ed's job easier. Who would want that?
    Not for me.
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  • Given2Fly2012
    Given2Fly2012 Posts: 659
    STAYSEA wrote:
    that was one of the kewlist live video's I have ever seen.

    WOW!


    the real Better Man R.I.P. 1994-2000 :cry:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPBhbCbWrY4

    I don't know which link you meant but the VH1 is simply boring.

    I wish I was at that show... Now I need to build that time machine. Dang it. :lol:

    Great, I could watch it agin & again & again... :-D
    She holds the hand that holds her down...
    She will... rise above...
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    whispering hands wrote:
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    whispering hands wrote:
    Lol!! That's ok.. My
    Original post was WAAAAAAY more serious TIL I read
    SPEEDY's post! Which made me almost choke on a sandwich
    reading!! BBH I love that you're taking the shit ass end of most
    Of our responses so well!! You're a good man!! A good fan!! And gosh
    darn it people like you!! Ok.. Seriously need to go be a shit somewhere
    else now!! Love ya man!!
    thanks, I have an opinion, I realized it could be unpopular, I think some awareness was raised, and I think the next time the song is played and we are all singing it, it may be even more special, and at least a few people stopped to think, and that is never a bad thing
    Amen!! :-)
    double Amen!!!
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    I didn't read through all 12 pages of this. When I originally read this I thought of me singing Fuck the Police by NWA when I was a kid. Did I really mean to bash the only people that willingly protect me? Nope, but I sang the song because it was awesome. And I know every lyric and will sing it today. Here's a note from you're friend Ed. Try the 2:00 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafZxBH7S9g Don't make life difficult. Adele, Taylor Swift, Ja Rule all have songs that are about bad shit. Grow up. We Sing to get away. I love singing in my car, anything. I want to not worry. Jeremy is a song about student death, yet we all raise our arms in a V. and we will continue. Life moves on, enjoy it.
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    edited May 2013
    Foriginal Sin wrote:
    I didn't read through all 12 pages of this. When I originally read this I thought of me singing Fuck the Police by NWA when I was a kid. Did I really mean to bash the only people that willingly protect me? Nope, but I sang the song because it was awesome. And I know every lyric and will sing it today. Here's a note from you're friend Ed. Try the 2:00 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafZxBH7S9g Don't make life difficult. Adele, Taylor Swift, Ja Rule all have songs that are about bad shit. Grow up. We Sing to get away. I love singing in my car, anything. I want to not worry. Jeremy is a song about student death, yet we all raise our arms in a V. and we will continue. Life moves on, enjoy it.
    yeah obviously we covered this! I said throughout whole thread to sing! you are rehashing old shit, and taking it out of context, unless you are going to go over at least the last half of this thread, you realize the ridiculousness of your post, I mean seriously! even if you just read the last two pages, you would realize how pointless your post is, seriously? talk about a troll

    :fp:
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  • kevedder
    kevedder Posts: 80
    I just think that this is a such a personal song for Ed and despite the fact that it is played so often, his passion when he sings it never wavers-even if he let's the crowd take over. I think the crowd connects with it because of our connection and our passion for ed and the rest of the boys and the fact its a catchy tune helps. Yeaah the theme is dark but Eds want for this woman, to find a better man...that is what makes it powerful and anthemic...and if you have been unfortunate enough to have witnessed domestic violence, I am sure you would feel as passionately as ed does about encouraging her to fight and not keep putting up with the shit. In this way i think it is as much a song of hope...Those are my thoughts anyhow...
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    I dunno, I just watched PJ 20 and that MSG sing a long is fucking great!
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    kevedder wrote:
    I just think that this is a such a personal song for Ed and despite the fact that it is played so often, his passion when he sings it never wavers-even if he let's the crowd take over. I think the crowd connects with it because of our connection and our passion for ed and the rest of the boys and the fact its a catchy tune helps. Yeaah the theme is dark but Eds want for this woman, to find a better man...that is what makes it powerful and anthemic...and if you have been unfortunate enough to have witnessed domestic violence, I am sure you would feel as passionately as ed does about encouraging her to fight and not keep putting up with the shit. In this way i think it is as much a song of hope...Those are my thoughts anyhow...

    thank you for a cogent and well thought out response, fans singing on Better Man is unavoidable at this point, and I can't ever see Eddie asking a crowd not to sing, so sing, understand, and I think the song may even more of a bonding experience, the next time we sing it, I still miss the old version, but the reality of the situation is the ballsy kick butt version of this song is dead forever, and a few old videos and bootlegs are all we have to remember it by, so know the song, sing it, feel it and make it mean something when you do, and if we do that then we still remember, but we still have that song as a unifying moment from that concert, that is really all I could ask for, Eddie could ask for, and we are still being fair to the song, as I stated the whole point of this thread was to raise awareness, and to get people to think, the people who actually did think, are the better for it
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Get_Right wrote:
    I dunno, I just watched PJ 20 and that MSG sing a long is fucking great!
    I still miss the old version, but the reality is we will never see this version ever again, so the sing a long is unavoidable, more just wanted people to think, that's all, and many people have and there are some great well thought out responses, but it is art, and if you like the MSG 2010 version better, I am in no way way mad, and I would say 90% of the people on here understand what the song is about and that is a higher percentage than I would of thought, so this actually turned out to be a very positive thread
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPBhbCbWrY4&list=PL9A00F7314885A11C&index=11
  • TribeintoBreath
    TribeintoBreath Posts: 883
    Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
    Run for it, Marty.
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    TribeintoBreath wrote:
    Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BdT5mFAk-Y
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    Big Bank Hank wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    I dunno, I just watched PJ 20 and that MSG sing a long is fucking great!
    I still miss the old version, but the reality is we will never see this version ever again, so the sing a long is unavoidable, more just wanted people to think, that's all, and many people have and there are some great well thought out responses, but it is art, and if you like the MSG 2010 version better, I am in no way way mad, and I would say 90% of the people on here understand what the song is about and that is a higher percentage than I would of thought, so this actually turned out to be a very positive thread
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPBhbCbWrY4&list=PL9A00F7314885A11C&index=11

    I go to shows to NOT think. :lol: I know what the song is about. But live, I just want a good time.
  • MANKIND
    MANKIND Posts: 218
    Can you read? I have said throughout this thread at least 20 go ahead and sing? I mean seriously

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:[/quote]


    im glad we have your permission to sing now
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