Why do people feel so entitled to 10C tickets?

zman wrote:

there was no "luck" with F5, if you were diligent enough you could score tickets.

curly wrote:

This one hurt...but come on....lifes short...
i've been in 15+ years...didn't get lucky at Wrigley...
Oh well...this one just wasn't in the cards thru tenclub...
i'm still going to buy (or try) tix thru the public sale...
sometimes its just the way the cookie crumbles...
either way...still love what 10club has to offer...
no ones perfect...not everyone can win either...

boyo79 wrote:

curly wrote:

This one hurt...but come on....lifes short...
i've been in 15+ years...didn't get lucky at Wrigley...
Oh well...this one just wasn't in the cards thru tenclub...
i'm still going to buy (or try) tix thru the public sale...
sometimes its just the way the cookie crumbles...
either way...still love what 10club has to offer...
no ones perfect...not everyone can win either...

Pity not enough have this outlook. Seems alot of people think just because they don't get 10c tickets that means they are 'shutout'. There is always the public sale as Curly points out. Good luck dude

BL176748 wrote:

I've honestly not seen a single person make even a semi-legitimate argument as to why they 'should' get tickets to every show simply because they decided to become a 10C member....and there are currently and literally hundreds of posts in here trying to do just that. Where they got this idea from is a complete and utter mystery. Did people honestly believe there was some kind of argreement where as long as you paid your yearly fee you were entitled to tickets for every show you may have ever wanted to attend? This isn't true in any other scenario on the planet. Even more bizarre are those that seem to be so filled with self absorbed delusion that they believe the adult members of a band that has been together for over 20 years somehow owes them something more than they have already provided. It's bizarre and quite frankly has lessened my opinon of Pearl Jam fans in general. For some reason I had asumed most were hard working adults with lives of their own. People who were intelligent and capable enough to deal with the realites of life, business, art, fandom, disappointment etc. Where they got the idea this entire journey was about them and their self-serving desires is astonshing.

Oh well...the good news is that me and my wife got lucky and will be there and I know that those that will be there with us are not the same group I simply wouldn't want anywhere near me for this thing in the first place.

curly wrote:

thanks boyo,...and dimi...

dimi...holy smokes...your getting close to that 100,000 post...

i hope i'm online that day...it will be a milestone in tenclub world

sxwxgirl1 wrote:

If I may put in my view I would really appreciate it. (just do not read if it is too long and boring :corn:

I am new to the 10C paid membership, just last year in fact. That does not mean I have not been a LONG time PJ fan. I have paid for tickets all along to see PJ sometimes in seats so bad not only b/c you could not see them, but could barely even hear them. I have never complained, just so thankful to be apart of the PJ experience.

I have also been to EV more intimate smaller solo's (both Montreal's) where the seats I got were awesome one night and not so hot the other, paid full price and again NO complaints..I was there, listening to EV, feeling the entire experience which I still hold to this day.

Only recently a 10C full member because I run a charity (unpaid) and have two fantastic teen Daughters (LOL that are not cheap to raise and after years of watching this site, did I feel I could afford the luxury of the Club as a paid member.

Joining the Club was very special to me, I thought bring me even closer to PJ fans who understand what it is like to be a true PJ lover (In the real World NOT ONE person in my life comes close to the love I have for PJ and EV)

I entered the lottery really hoping that I would win, but full well realizing "it is a lottery, if I don't win..I don't" that is the way lotteries are.

When I found out I won tic's to see them as a 10C member in London, the excitement I felt was like never before, finally a chance to be with PJ "family" who would share the same love, energy at a show (as opposed to some shows I have been at where ppl just sat there beside me texting not even clapping after an amazing set!)

When I won the set of tickets, I immediately reached out to my "PJ "family" (complete strangers) and offered them my extra ticket as I refused to just bring "anyone" (including my own girls who do not love PJ like I do!) as I wanted someone there who would appreciate that ticket as much as I do, and feel just as lucky to be there as I.

After reading some of the negative posts, I will admit I am completely disheartened, I almost feel as though I do not "deserve" to even go to the show as I have a "high #" and now almost feel "shamed" because I won, and wonder if the others around me will point saying "hmm..non deserving winner"

I thought this group would bring me together with PJ members, who were as passionate about the love of PJ as I am...I am not feeling "the love" so too speak in reading some of these posts.

I have paid my dues as a fan for many years in other ways (yes having to use the rotten ticketmaster I despise) I love PJ with all my heart and soul, and feel as though being a 10C member would complete my PJ love with ppl that felt the same.

I did not realize because I only became a member last year "that I am less worthy" to attend a show in the 10C. For which those tickets mean the absolute World to me.

I feel as though I should be apologizing for winning the "lottery", which in itself is a strange feeling to have amongst fellow PJ's.

weekapaug19 wrote:

sxwxgirl1 wrote:

If I may put in my view I would really appreciate it. (just do not read if it is too long and boring :corn:

I am new to the 10C paid membership, just last year in fact. That does not mean I have not been a LONG time PJ fan. I have paid for tickets all along to see PJ sometimes in seats so bad not only b/c you could not see them, but could barely even hear them. I have never complained, just so thankful to be apart of the PJ experience.

I have also been to EV more intimate smaller solo's (both Montreal's) where the seats I got were awesome one night and not so hot the other, paid full price and again NO complaints..I was there, listening to EV, feeling the entire experience which I still hold to this day.

Only recently a 10C full member because I run a charity (unpaid) and have two fantastic teen Daughters (LOL that are not cheap to raise and after years of watching this site, did I feel I could afford the luxury of the Club as a paid member.

Joining the Club was very special to me, I thought bring me even closer to PJ fans who understand what it is like to be a true PJ lover (In the real World NOT ONE person in my life comes close to the love I have for PJ and EV)

I entered the lottery really hoping that I would win, but full well realizing "it is a lottery, if I don't win..I don't" that is the way lotteries are.

When I found out I won tic's to see them as a 10C member in London, the excitement I felt was like never before, finally a chance to be with PJ "family" who would share the same love, energy at a show (as opposed to some shows I have been at where ppl just sat there beside me texting not even clapping after an amazing set!)

When I won the set of tickets, I immediately reached out to my "PJ "family" (complete strangers) and offered them my extra ticket as I refused to just bring "anyone" (including my own girls who do not love PJ like I do!) as I wanted someone there who would appreciate that ticket as much as I do, and feel just as lucky to be there as I.

After reading some of the negative posts, I will admit I am completely disheartened, I almost feel as though I do not "deserve" to even go to the show as I have a "high #" and now almost feel "shamed" because I won, and wonder if the others around me will point saying "hmm..non deserving winner"

I thought this group would bring me together with PJ members, who were as passionate about the love of PJ as I am...I am not feeling "the love" so too speak in reading some of these posts.

I have paid my dues as a fan for many years in other ways (yes having to use the rotten ticketmaster I despise) I love PJ with all my heart and soul, and feel as though being a 10C member would complete my PJ love with ppl that felt the same.

I did not realize because I only became a member last year "that I am less worthy" to attend a show in the 10C. For which those tickets mean the absolute World to me.

I feel as though I should be apologizing for winning the "lottery", which in itself is a strange feeling to have amongst fellow PJ's.

i hope you win the lottery for 1st or 2nd row tickets...enjoy the show

PJ_Soul wrote:

asgoodased wrote:

People feel entitled to 10C tickets because membership in the 10C has, for most of its existence at least, nearly guaranteed access to 10C tickets. It's why I joined in 1996 or whenever it was. It's why I still paid my membership fee when it went up from 5 to 10, then 10 to 20, then 20 to what it is now. I think people realize the wording has changed from "first tickets available" to "a chance at the first tickets available", but people still feel like they pay for this service.

I know its because there is a much larger fan base now, and that's the real reason, but fan club members now pay more than they ever did and get less. It's supply vs demand, though, and I recognize that, and I'm a consumer so I ultimately get to make the final choice of whether it's worth it or not. In my opinion, once I can no longer get preferential seats for my hometown show, that's when my membership stops being useful, and I'll probably stop being a member. (que the "don't let the door hit you on the way out" posts). I'm not trying to complain, or ask for change, or whatever. They're doing what they think is best, and I'll do what I think is best for me as a consumer.

Fair enough.
I personally get a lot out of this membership - frankly, actually personally getting 10C tickets is lower on my priority list, just because I will still be able to attend whatever show I want to attend one way or another. I really pay the fee for access to member-only sales, access to the forum, and the holiday single and 10C gift. 10C tickets are awesome to have a chance at in some cases for me (i.e., being able to try for 10C-only or early entry GA tix, which I did not get directly for MT or CHI, and I sure wish I had won the lottery, but a lot of people wanted those tix! I'm not lucky!), but seriously, with a number like mine, I'd rather not get reserved seating 10C tix - I'd just end up in the nose bleeds for as long as the band continues to perform. I'd much prefer to find ticket buddies or buy from the public sale because of my shitty number. If seniority for seats went away, the 10C ticket sales would matter a lot more to me. So yay - I'm a very happy paying customer, because the club is meeting my personal needs aside from the seniority issue.

But if some are ONLY paying the membership fee because they want guaranteed 10C tix, then I can see why they would want to leave. If someone isn't getting what they want from something they are paying for, then it makes no sense to pay for it. You're right - it's just about whether or not a product is working for you; completely our personal choice as to whether or not we want to pay for it. I mean, when I go to a restaurant and think the food is a rip off and didn't taste good, I don't keep coming back and complain to the management each time about how shitty the place is. I just don't go back to the restaurant. Even if I really really wish they had better food, because the atmosphere is really nice. I don't see how it's any different in this case.