Why do people feel so entitled to 10C tickets?

chriszee · January 2013

I dont feel entitled for tix, but I feel entitled to have equal opprotunity for every show that I want to go to. Not sure if that is the case now. Major cities with 2 shows are allegedly going to be limited to one night for 10c tix. I travel to cities with 2 shows so I dont have to book multiple hotels/flights/buses. What if I wanted to do a third show after a two night stand, now that is ranked low and I probably wont get it anyways. I understand that there are different avenues to get tix, but my membership is now doing less for me than before and the price has gone up. This new system is going to make it very hard to plan a trip to see some concerts especially that plan in groups which there are a lot of. PS not to brag, I got tix today, along with everyone in my travelling group...

marcos · January 2013

Yeah I suppose there is some entitlement thing but I think I a lot of it is just people expressing their hurt which is fine to vent. PJ and their music is an escape from many of our sometimes daily depressing lives.

tremorvoid · January 2013

tenclub tickets is really the only reason to be in the tenclub. those of us who have had the luxury of getting tickets to as many shows as we want throughout the years...we count on tenclub to provide us the best concert experience. I sure as hell wouldn't have seen them as many time as I have if it weren't for the awesome seats that I used to be "guaranteed".

I know there is about a 90% chance that I wont bother traveling more than an hour to a show if I don't have good seats. So I guess its time to start cutting back. Many of you look forward to that im sure...but its sad really. I look forward to being up close and personal and be able to SEE and HEAR the band...

Hell it was easier to get tickets in 95 and 96 when they only played a handful of shows that weren't TM...then 98 was the best method...it worked...and yet somehow...I went from sitting 2-3rd row back in 98....to further back on each tour since. Doesn't make ANY sense since I still have my same number as I got in 95.

the lottery is bogus. what is going to happen when they have a legitimate tour? we will have to throw our name in the hat for 10 shows in hopes of getting 1....and that 1 may be a plane ride away. theres no way to plan anything with this band anymore...I sincerely hope tenclub figures out another way.....perhaps they should spend that increase fanclub fee to invest in a legitimate server or rent another host server for times of ticket needs. GIVE US A CHOICE! Or go back to playing non-TM venues so they can play tenclub only shows.

and for fucks sake...release ALL the dates of the fall tour at once! and if you insist on lottery...stagger those so those of us who get shafted can enter the lottery for the next closest show.

tremorvoid · January 2013

chriszee wrote:

I dont feel entitled for tix, but I feel entitled to have equal opprotunity for every show that I want to go to. Not sure if that is the case now. Major cities with 2 shows are allegedly going to be limited to one night for 10c tix. I travel to cities with 2 shows so I dont have to book multiple hotels/flights/buses. What if I wanted to do a third show after a two night stand, now that is ranked low and I probably wont get it anyways. I understand that there are different avenues to get tix, but my membership is now doing less for me than before and the price has gone up. This new system is going to make it very hard to plan a trip to see some concerts especially that plan in groups which there are a lot of. PS not to brag, I got tix today, along with everyone in my travelling group...

well said...hard to plan and if multiple shows...which I prefer as well to make a trip out of it...but if I only get tix to one show...im kinda screwed. I just renewed my membership...I should've switched to the cheaper option...next year I will...

amethgr8 · January 2013

the tickets are a BONUS for me. I'm into 10c for alot more than just tickets.

bootlegger10 · January 2013

tremorvoid wrote:

I sure as hell wouldn't have seen them as many time as I have if it weren't for the awesome seats that I used to be "guaranteed".

Sound like a true fan that deserves to keep getting guaranteed seats. :roll:

DURP · January 2013

The first post was too long to read so i gave up.

Short answer people now a days feel entitled to everything and anything. Old timers who say I've spent more money on this band than you need the shit slapped out them. It's not about money or time or whatever. It's about meeting new people and reconnecting with old friends and listening to music. I've had many beers tonight and too be honest the self entitlement on this board makes welfare look like people who are just broke. Get over yourself if you have been a member since 94 we get it you're the biggest fan in the world. Now take that self imposed crown and shove it up your ass.

BeeGirl86 · January 2013

Amen. Hail, Hail! Overall, I have loved this band since I was 13...I am 26 now!! I can actually remember listening to them when I was about 5-6 with my older brother. I remembered I was always amazed he knew all of the words to Evenflow because I could not understand what Ed was saying for the life of me. Annnywaaayss, I was in the fan club in 6th grade and kept it going for a couple of years but let it expire like a dumbass in high school. I have been in the fan club the past 8 years now and yes, it blows that I let it lapse and lost seniority. Although, I would never have seniority like some of the people because I was simply too young. That does NOT mean I do not love this band as much as the next person in this family. And I also think it would be nice if I had the chance to have some of the good seats that those people feel they are entitled to and basically end up getting every tour. Can't we all just get along and feel the PJ love rather than look down upon the young ones like myself?!? If I could've had someone join the fanclub in my name when I was 4 in 1990 instead of starting a savings account for me...I would've! But, instead here I am...a younger Pearl Jam fan probably more passionate than most...shut out always because my number is too low. However, you never hear me bitch because I am just happy to be at the shows...no matter where I am. Annnnnnnnnnd rant over! :wave:

tremorvoid · January 2013

bootlegger10 wrote:

tremorvoid wrote:

I sure as hell wouldn't have seen them as many time as I have if it weren't for the awesome seats that I used to be "guaranteed".

Sound like a true fan that deserves to keep getting guaranteed seats. :roll:

yeah yeah....ive spent all my extra money on this band since 95...seen them almost 90 times...so keep rolling your eyes...I know im a hardcore fan...I don't need your approval...

DURP · January 2013

Seniority doesn't mean shit. I was in the Army for most of my adult life. My thinking was simple I'm deployed for 10 months out of the year Pearl Jam rarely play down here (Southern States) why waste 20 bucks. But yeah it's my fault and I'm not as big as a fan as joe cool who has been a member since 93. Seniority only counts for seats. As far as a lotto tough shit sit in the pile with us and stop complaining.

My biggest grip is all these fuckers who say I've been to 25 shows and have never been able to secure 10c tixs and now they are whining like a baby because they don't get 10c tixs for one show. Grow the fuck up you fucking baby. Oh waaah one show out off 25 poor poor baby. Some of these members need to get over thier self you're not in the band you're a fucking fan paying to be in a club shut the fuck up

DURP · January 2013

tremorvoid wrote:

yeah yeah....ive spent all my extra money on this band since 95...seen them almost 90 times...so keep rolling your eyes...I know im a hardcore fan...I don't need your approval...

Would you like a trophy, medal or pat on the back?

tremorvoid · January 2013

DURP wrote:

tremorvoid wrote:

yeah yeah....ive spent all my extra money on this band since 95...seen them almost 90 times...so keep rolling your eyes...I know im a hardcore fan...I don't need your approval...

Would you like a trophy, medal or pat on the back?

nope but I sure wish the people on this board were much cooler and kinder....like they were back in day...glad I already have all my PJ tour buddies...because people on here are the nasty ones...ugh....

you all voice your opinions...I will do the same when I feel like it...

be sound crazy meanies!

walkintoyourgarden · January 2013

BeeGirl86 wrote:

Amen. Hail, Hail! Overall, I have loved this band since I was 13...I am 26 now!! I can actually remember listening to them when I was about 5-6 with my older brother. I remembered I was always amazed he knew all of the words to Evenflow because I could not understand what Ed was saying for the life of me. Annnywaaayss, I was in the fan club in 6th grade and kept it going for a couple of years but let it expire like a dumbass in high school. I have been in the fan club the past 8 years now and yes, it blows that I let it lapse and lost seniority. Although, I would never have seniority like some of the people because I was simply too young. That does NOT mean I do not love this band as much as the next person in this family. And I also think it would be nice if I had the chance to have some of the good seats that those people feel they are entitled to and basically end up getting every tour. Can't we all just get along and feel the PJ love rather than look down upon the young ones like myself?!? If I could've had someone join the fanclub in my name when I was 4 in 1990 instead of starting a savings account for me...I would've! But, instead here I am...a younger Pearl Jam fan probably more passionate than most...shut out always because my number is too low. However, you never hear me bitch because I am just happy to be at the shows...no matter where I am. Annnnnnnnnnd rant over! :wave:

yeah, my fault for being 8 MONTHS OLD when Vitalogy came out so i haven't been a fan for as long as many as lot of people here but it does not mean that i don't deserve to see them as much as them. i've been devoting my life to this band since i was 12 but i only got analog a year ago with my 18th birthday money. i can't stand when people who have been to 683923068432 shows complain about how everything is so unfair but i've never gotten a chance to even see pearl jam once. at least this year i can probably afford to travel so i'm excited about that.

DURP · January 2013

tremorvoid wrote:

DURP wrote:

tremorvoid wrote:

yeah yeah....ive spent all my extra money on this band since 95...seen them almost 90 times...so keep rolling your eyes...I know im a hardcore fan...I don't need your approval...

Would you like a trophy, medal or pat on the back?

nope but I sure wish the people on this board were much cooler and kinder....like they were back in day...glad I already have all my PJ tour buddies...because people on here are the nasty ones...ugh....

you all voice your opinions...I will do the same when I feel like it...

be sound crazy meanies!

Dude you can voice your opinion but when it's been said 1,000 times in one day it makes it seem like it's whining plain and simple. We get it you have been a member since 93 or whatever but bitching because you got shut out of one show does not make you seem like one of the "cool" members. It makes you seem like a self entitled fucker.

Let me ask you this. I was in the army stationed in the south. PJ never came to the south so why should i join a fan club for tickets. Then due to circumstances I had a fear of large crowds after i got help for PTSD i joined the fan so you're more important than me? Even though I have bought every CD atleast twice but not been to any shows till 2010 you're more important than someone else. Fuckin get over yourself

Ty · January 2013

I'm in Australia, so I didn't try get tickets. I have also never missed out on tickets I wanted before, despite getting close with a few EV shows indeed.

I have also NEVER complained or whinged about the TenClub, ever.

An ongoing member for 17 years now, the main reason we pay our money to the TenClub is for the hope a tour announcement and the security of knowing we, as fans paying a premium for the privilege, can get rad tickets before the general public fans (who are not paying the premium). We don't pay it for the forum, nor the 45" or the 8x10 or whatever... we pay it for the tickets. If Pearl Jam can't guarantee us the tickets when we want them, as premium paying TenClub members, then they shouldn't offer the service at all, nor charge us for it... just make the 45" available in the shop and be done with the TenClub.

"Fans are fans ad they all deserve tickets!" Yes, I agree, totally. But if some fans pay a premium to be part of a TenClub community to ensure tickets when we want them, then we should get them.

To the argument that "Pearl Jam aren't allocated many tickets for the fanclub release..." Bullshit! They are the fucking headline act that booked the venue. They can have all the tickets if they want. During the TenClub presale window they should sell up to the capacity of the venue. If it's full of TenClubbers and sold out, well it's sold out and full of fans who paid the premium of access to early full-priced tickets.

If someone is paying their $50 for the 45" and the magazine (both cool items, btw, but not worth that money alone), they are a dickhead. I expect to get tickets through the TenClub and should, for the annual cost.

I hope the TenClub read this post before they announce an Australian tour.

My question is... in 1996 when the band was undoubtedly at it's biggest and most in demand, did TenClubbers ever miss out on tickets through the TenClub? If the answer is no, something needs to be fixed! I remember the NY 200 bootleg mentioning something like 9,000 TenClubbers each night at MSG.

mandarine65 · January 2013

Seriously how much money you spent on the band or how long you've been listening to them or how much do they mean to you... how can you compare that? I mean everyone who suscribed to TC are die-hard fans and that's it!
It's just that lottery thing is ridiculous, I mean in a lottery you pay something and you don't know what you're getting but you're getting something! Fuck let's do a lottery and 10 TC members get to see the show from the stage, that would be a freakin lotto! But for a paying show thats wicked, let the fans from Chicago And Illinois get the chance to score nominative TC tickets for a few days and then open to the rest of the Fan club, that's the only thing that makes sense to me (I'm not leaving there btw). What's next? Would guys like a lotto so only a few get the chance to buy the deluxe LP edition of the new album? Would you like that?!!

SolarWorld · January 2013

Why do people feel so entitled to 10C tickets?

Because this nation's education system has failed the people. It has created a populace of drone workers who cant critically think to save their lives.

Thousands of people trying for hundreds of pairs of tickets.

How can someone not understand that that means you might not get tickets? Only conclusion I can come up with is they haven't learned how to think properly. This is simple stuff here. Oh well... guess I'll just blame Rockefeller.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

Ty wrote:

I'm in Australia, so I didn't try get tickets. I have also never missed out on tickets I wanted before, despite getting close with a few EV shows indeed.

I have also NEVER complained or whinged about the TenClub, ever.

An ongoing member for 17 years now, the main reason we pay our money to the TenClub is for the hope a tour announcement and the security of knowing we, as fans paying a premium for the privilege, can get rad tickets before the general public fans (who are not paying the premium). We don't pay it for the forum, nor the 45" or the 8x10 or whatever... we pay it for the tickets. If Pearl Jam can't guarantee us the tickets when we want them, as premium paying TenClub members, then they shouldn't offer the service at all, nor charge us for it... just make the 45" available in the shop and be done with the TenClub.

"Fans are fans ad they all deserve tickets!" Yes, I agree, totally. But if some fans pay a premium to be part of a TenClub community to ensure tickets when we want them, then we should get them.

To the argument that "Pearl Jam aren't allocated many tickets for the fanclub release..." Bullshit! They are the fucking headline act that booked the venue. They can have all the tickets if they want. During the TenClub presale window they should sell up to the capacity of the venue. If it's full of TenClubbers and sold out, well it's sold out and full of fans who paid the premium of access to early full-priced tickets.

If someone is paying their $50 for the 45" and the magazine (both cool items, btw, but not worth that money alone), they are a dickhead. I expect to get tickets through the TenClub and should, for the annual cost.

I hope the TenClub read this post before they announce an Australian tour.

My question is... in 1996 when the band was undoubtedly at it's biggest and most in demand, did TenClubbers ever miss out on tickets through the TenClub? If the answer is no, something needs to be fixed! I remember the NY 200 bootleg mentioning something like 9,000 TenClubbers each night at MSG.

just to add something in your thought..
someone from Argentina why to become 10c member before 05??
they never played there before
me,why to be member before 06??and why to keep my membership??they will never play here again..
and do you think,that 10c go to a meeting for book a venue and will say we want all the venue,cos we can sell it??and they just get it??
venues has contracts with ticket companies,season holders,promoters..

at 96 the members wasnt so many 10c member as are today..
tickets are nt enough for all..and people will shut out..
they just fixed the system to run smooth..they didnt put the lottery and the tickets they had for saler are more..
are the same as they can get as always..just the system is different..

Ty · January 2013

mandarine65 wrote:

Seriously how much money you spent on the band or how long you've been listening to them or how much do they mean to you... how can you compare that? I mean everyone who suscribed to TC are die-hard fans and that's it!
It's just that lottery thing is ridiculous, I mean in a lottery you pay something and you don't know what you're getting but you're getting something! Fuck let's do a lottery and 10 TC members get to see the show from the stage, that would be a freakin lotto! But for a paying show thats wicked, let the fans from Chicago And Illinois get the chance to score nominative TC tickets for a few days and then open to the rest of the Fan club, that's the only thing that makes sense to me (I'm not leaving there btw). What's next? Would guys like a lotto so only a few get the chance to buy the deluxe LP edition of the new album? Would you like that?!!

Angree, it shouldn't be a gamble/lottery for a premium paying fan to see their favourite band. We pay for the ticket, and for paying the premium we should have access to early tickets, not maybe-access. Ridiculous! If the TenClub was free, or in line with the 45" and the magazine, then yeah, allow a lottery. but not $50 a year.

Ty · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Ty wrote:

I'm in Australia, so I didn't try get tickets. I have also never missed out on tickets I wanted before, despite getting close with a few EV shows indeed.

I have also NEVER complained or whinged about the TenClub, ever.

An ongoing member for 17 years now, the main reason we pay our money to the TenClub is for the hope a tour announcement and the security of knowing we, as fans paying a premium for the privilege, can get rad tickets before the general public fans (who are not paying the premium). We don't pay it for the forum, nor the 45" or the 8x10 or whatever... we pay it for the tickets. If Pearl Jam can't guarantee us the tickets when we want them, as premium paying TenClub members, then they shouldn't offer the service at all, nor charge us for it... just make the 45" available in the shop and be done with the TenClub.

"Fans are fans ad they all deserve tickets!" Yes, I agree, totally. But if some fans pay a premium to be part of a TenClub community to ensure tickets when we want them, then we should get them.

To the argument that "Pearl Jam aren't allocated many tickets for the fanclub release..." Bullshit! They are the fucking headline act that booked the venue. They can have all the tickets if they want. During the TenClub presale window they should sell up to the capacity of the venue. If it's full of TenClubbers and sold out, well it's sold out and full of fans who paid the premium of access to early full-priced tickets.

If someone is paying their $50 for the 45" and the magazine (both cool items, btw, but not worth that money alone), they are a dickhead. I expect to get tickets through the TenClub and should, for the annual cost.

I hope the TenClub read this post before they announce an Australian tour.

My question is... in 1996 when the band was undoubtedly at it's biggest and most in demand, did TenClubbers ever miss out on tickets through the TenClub? If the answer is no, something needs to be fixed! I remember the NY 200 bootleg mentioning something like 9,000 TenClubbers each night at MSG.

just to add something in your thought..
someone from Argentina why to become 10c member before 05??
they never played there before
me,why to be member before 06??and why to keep my membership??they will never play here again..
and do you think,that 10c go to a meeting for book a venue and will say we want all the venue,cos we can sell it??and they just get it??
venues has contracts with ticket companies,season holders,promoters..

at 96 the members wasnt so many 10c member as are today..
tickets are nt enough for all..and people will shut out..
they just fixed the system to run smooth..they didnt put the lottery and the tickets they had for saler are more..
are the same as they can get as always..just the system is different..

TenClub membership was a hell of a lot cheaper in '05/'06. And you travel to shows, so early access to tickets is worth it to you, so you paid the premium. I pay each and every year too, in hope of a tour I want tickets to, which I should be entitled to access, not gamble for.

Why do people feel so entitled to 10C tickets?

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