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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,002
    cincybearcat wrote:
    In my opinion and experience, only 120 minute and maybe a few other triple ipas can be cellared.

    I've aged Devil Dancer and think it;s fantastic after 1 year. But really, this guy speaks the truth, ipas or hoppy beers are meant to be consumed fresh. The fresher, the better.

    How long do you think 90 minutes can be left in the bottle?
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  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    imalive wrote:
    what a minute....this stuff really exists???? :?

    6pk%20and%20bottle.jpg

    sooner or later someone had to do it...

    probably make a shitload of money off it too.

    I know If I saw it out somewhere I'd have to try it, and probably get an extra sixer to keep for sentimental purposes - regardless of how good it is...
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    shep wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    what a minute....this stuff really exists???? :?

    6pk%20and%20bottle.jpg

    sooner or later someone had to do it...

    probably make a shitload of money off it too.

    I know If I saw it out somewhere I'd have to try it, and probably get an extra sixer to keep for sentimental purposes - regardless of how good it is...

    I wouldn't count on them making anything close to a shitload of money. I mean Fox has a ton of lawyers on staff to protect their trademarks when it comes to this type of thing. Unless the people making it are living somewhere, where trademark and copyright laws don't apply I can see them getting sued back to the stone age.
  • he.who.forgets
    he.who.forgets Posts: 4,593
    Headin to the local brewery to drink a newly tapped Belgian IPA. (where's the salivating smiley?)
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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    In my opinion and experience, only 120 minute and maybe a few other triple ipas can be cellared.

    I've aged Devil Dancer and think it;s fantastic after 1 year. But really, this guy speaks the truth, ipas or hoppy beers are meant to be consumed fresh. The fresher, the better.

    How long do you think 90 minutes can be left in the bottle?
    It's going to change a lot after 90 days or so. It's still good after a longer period of time, the hops just fade making it a much maltier, sweeter beer.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    For anyone in TX, especially Houston (Shep & I) craft drinkers, the new Southern Star ProAM DIPA is killer. Freshest, piniest, hopjuice bomb i've had in TX since moving out here from San Diego. Seriously rivals some so cal dipa stuff.

    the front end actually has me thinking of pliny, really good shit.

    p.s. shep-pliny's may be here next week.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    shep wrote:
    Had a bottle of La Roja by Jolly Pumpkin last night... Not what I was expecting, but a very good beer...

    I can see myself getting into sours before too long... I haven't tried a "true" sour yet, just had a couple of "mixed" beers... but I very much enjoy the sour notes.

    I also tried my first batch of homebrew - and I was impressed it actually tastes like beer! :D

    It's supposed to be a pale ale, but it's a little yeasty and dark due to the malt extract and the temp I pitched the yeast at... hopefully it settles out a little more as it ages in the bottle.... it's pretty good for a first attempt methinks!

    The second batch is already in the primary :)

    Have you tried a Flanders Red or Oud Bruin yet? Perfect gateway to sours. Seek out something simple like a Monk's Cafe or Rodenbach. Sours were the last thing I got into and there's been no looking back.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,002
    adam42381 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    In my opinion and experience, only 120 minute and maybe a few other triple ipas can be cellared.

    I've aged Devil Dancer and think it;s fantastic after 1 year. But really, this guy speaks the truth, ipas or hoppy beers are meant to be consumed fresh. The fresher, the better.

    How long do you think 90 minutes can be left in the bottle?
    It's going to change a lot after 90 days or so. It's still good after a longer period of time, the hops just fade making it a much maltier, sweeter beer.

    Thanks for your response. 90 minute IPA is my favorite beer of all time so I bought a case and am going to spread out the consumption of it over maybe a year or maybe like 3/4 of a year to see how much it changes.
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Thanks for your response. 90 minute IPA is my favorite beer of all time so I bought a case and am going to spread out the consumption of it over maybe a year or maybe like 3/4 of a year to see how much it changes.
    I actually enjoy some IPAs once they've become sweeter/maltier. I like the idea of spreading them out to see if you notice the changes.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    adam42381 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Thanks for your response. 90 minute IPA is my favorite beer of all time so I bought a case and am going to spread out the consumption of it over maybe a year or maybe like 3/4 of a year to see how much it changes.
    I actually enjoy some IPAs once they've become sweeter/maltier. I like the idea of spreading them out to see if you notice the changes.
    You know what's weird? My palate tells me that 120min actually gets LESS sweet after a few months in the bottle. I don't really know how that's possible -- maybe something to do with additional fermentation consuming some more of the residual sugars? I really don't know the brewing process as well as I'd like.

    Note that I'm really only talking about 120 here, no other DIPAs, etc, have done that to me.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,002
    adam42381 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Thanks for your response. 90 minute IPA is my favorite beer of all time so I bought a case and am going to spread out the consumption of it over maybe a year or maybe like 3/4 of a year to see how much it changes.
    I actually enjoy some IPAs once they've become sweeter/maltier. I like the idea of spreading them out to see if you notice the changes.

    Yea I figured that since 90 Minute is my favoriter beer, I might as well just try to see how the beer changes, even if I have some bottles for too long and they are no longer as good

    So I have 24 in a case

    Maybe I will wait until the bottles are 2 months old (which is the longest point that I have had a bottle of this stuff in my house)
    Then have 1 bottle every other week until the case is gone
    The beers at the end will be aged one year

    Thoughts?
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • PJFAN13
    PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    adam42381 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Thanks for your response. 90 minute IPA is my favorite beer of all time so I bought a case and am going to spread out the consumption of it over maybe a year or maybe like 3/4 of a year to see how much it changes.
    I actually enjoy some IPAs once they've become sweeter/maltier. I like the idea of spreading them out to see if you notice the changes.

    Yea I figured that since 90 Minute is my favoriter beer, I might as well just try to see how the beer changes, even if I have some bottles for too long and they are no longer as good

    So I have 24 in a case

    Maybe I will wait until the bottles are 2 months old (which is the longest point that I have had a bottle of this stuff in my house)
    Then have 1 bottle every other week until the case is gone
    The beers at the end will be aged one year

    Thoughts?

    DRINK THEM UP! If you like IPA's its for the reason they are a tad bitter and hoppy, right? Guess what happens folks when you age your IPA's? They get mellow...doesn't mean they won't be good, they are different.
    I did this with a 4 pk in Nov 2008 - and I drank one (properly stored) each year on my birthday. November 2011 was almost undrinkable and also unrecognizable...Greg Koch, from Stone Brew, had an amazing spiel about this subject a few months back... He said for the highest alcohol content DIPA's and such, up to 7 wks (again, properly stored) at the MOST - and to expect it to taste different (not bad, just different).
    I have also found any with citrus (Racer 5, etc...) turn to cat piss flavor. I have only had 1 old IPA (over 1 year) - it was a Lagunitas Sucks and I still can't believe it was a year old (twas very drinkable and tasty, believe it or not).
    I am in the camp that IPA's & DIPA's need to be consumed immediately. Have fun storing - and for those of you that have, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Everybody's taste buds are different. IPA & DIPA are my faves - I will not make the mistake of letting them sit more than 2 mos ever again...
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    RFTC wrote:
    For anyone in TX, especially Houston (Shep & I) craft drinkers, the new Southern Star ProAM DIPA is killer. Freshest, piniest, hopjuice bomb i've had in TX since moving out here from San Diego. Seriously rivals some so cal dipa stuff.

    the front end actually has me thinking of pliny, really good shit.

    p.s. shep-pliny's may be here next week.

    I picked up a 4-pack of the ProAM last Friday and I have to confirm it is awesome.

    Only had 1 can so far, but more will definitely be consumed this weekend.
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,002
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    DRINK THEM UP! If you like IPA's its for the reason they are a tad bitter and hoppy, right? Guess what happens folks when you age your IPA's? They get mellow...doesn't mean they won't be good, they are different.
    I did this with a 4 pk in Nov 2008 - and I drank one (properly stored) each year on my birthday. November 2011 was almost undrinkable and also unrecognizable...Greg Koch, from Stone Brew, had an amazing spiel about this subject a few months back... He said for the highest alcohol content DIPA's and such, up to 7 wks (again, properly stored) at the MOST - and to expect it to taste different (not bad, just different).
    I have also found any with citrus (Racer 5, etc...) turn to cat piss flavor. I have only had 1 old IPA (over 1 year) - it was a Lagunitas Sucks and I still can't believe it was a year old (twas very drinkable and tasty, believe it or not).
    I am in the camp that IPA's & DIPA's need to be consumed immediately. Have fun storing - and for those of you that have, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Everybody's taste buds are different. IPA & DIPA are my faves - I will not make the mistake of letting them sit more than 2 mos ever again...

    I know its weird to say, but I feel the need to see how this beer ages, even though I do drink IPAs because I love their bitterness and the aroma. Maybe I will make my experiment last a shorter amount of time based on what you said and my gut feeling. Maybe I will in one month, and do one a week. Hmm, decision decisions :lol:.
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    I'll be Tumbling this weekend.
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  • PJFAN13
    PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    SO AWESOME!!!
    Called Stone @ 10:30 this am to see if I could find ANY "Enjoy By" IPA since every 22 oz bottle is sold out in San Diego...
    They told me to come down @ 11 and they'd fill my growler with this deliciousness...
    Better yet --> today is Double Bastard 3L fills!!!
    Talk about knocking off 2 birds with one "Stone" :lol:
    Walked away a very happy man!
    PROST!!!
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    SO AWESOME!!!
    Called Stone @ 10:30 this am to see if I could find ANY "Enjoy By" IPA since every 22 oz bottle is sold out in San Diego...
    They told me to come down @ 11 and they'd fill my growler with this deliciousness...
    Better yet --> today is Double Bastard 3L fills!!!
    Talk about knocking off 2 birds with one "Stone" :lol:
    Walked away a very happy man!
    PROST!!!

    i am fkn jealous, double bastard is a top 10 beer for me, never had it on tap.
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  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    Just finished my 2nd bottle of the 10th Anny Ruination... I randomly found it on a shelf at a binny's in chicago when I was there 2 weeks ago... The best before date was 8/23, and I drank it today on 8/24...

    And i have to formally state that it is a tragedy that it was a 1 off batch... that beer was fucking amazing. I had never had the regular ruination before, but after comparing the two, the regular recipe doesn't even compare.... I hope they don't retire the 10th anny recipe permanently.... :cry:
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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    DRINK THEM UP! If you like IPA's its for the reason they are a tad bitter and hoppy, right? Guess what happens folks when you age your IPA's? They get mellow...doesn't mean they won't be good, they are different.
    I did this with a 4 pk in Nov 2008 - and I drank one (properly stored) each year on my birthday. November 2011 was almost undrinkable and also unrecognizable...Greg Koch, from Stone Brew, had an amazing spiel about this subject a few months back... He said for the highest alcohol content DIPA's and such, up to 7 wks (again, properly stored) at the MOST - and to expect it to taste different (not bad, just different).
    I have also found any with citrus (Racer 5, etc...) turn to cat piss flavor. I have only had 1 old IPA (over 1 year) - it was a Lagunitas Sucks and I still can't believe it was a year old (twas very drinkable and tasty, believe it or not).
    I am in the camp that IPA's & DIPA's need to be consumed immediately. Have fun storing - and for those of you that have, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Everybody's taste buds are different. IPA & DIPA are my faves - I will not make the mistake of letting them sit more than 2 mos ever again...
    I agree with most of what was posted. I had a 6 month old Hopslam recently and it was nothing like what Hopslam should be. Good? Yes. Nectar of the gods? Nowhere close.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • afroannnie
    afroannnie Posts: 12,995
    Has anyone tried this yet?

    tumblr_m77sr1EmLT1r7ekmw.jpg
    Show #13 was a lucky one for me....

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