Are Mormons Christian?

CH156378 · May 2012

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MayDay10 · May 2012

I think so. It depends on your definition. They believe in Christ, a different story.... so I think officially Mormonism isnt recognized as 'officially' Christian by other Christians (if that makes sense)

CH156378 · May 2012

i thought the common bond between christians was their belief in the holy trinity?

MotoDC · May 2012

Common bond is the belief in Christ as the Son of God and as the one true path to salvation.

...That said, many non-Mormon Christians would argue that Mormons are not Christians in the truest sense of the word. Not real sure of the details as to why, though.

Cosmo · May 2012

Who gets to decide who is a 'Real Christian' and who is not?
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I've always wondered that.

Jason P · May 2012

Cosmo wrote:

Who gets to decide who is a 'Real Christian' and who is not?
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I've always wondered that.

Wikipedia, of course.

And they say yes. :ugeek:

StillHere · May 2012

CH156378 wrote:

i thought the common bond between christians was their belief in the holy trinity?

If you are defining "Christian" in a mainstream way then
I don't think so .... exactly
I think that Catholics and Episcopalians believe in the Holy Trinity as 3 separate entities all rolled into one if that makes sense?
And other Christian groups believe that Jesus is the Son of God, died and rose again
But not as 3 separate entities

I could be wrong

Where are our learned Christian jammers?

juan lester · May 2012

i'm up to my eyeballs in mormons.

death oaths? tithing? jesus in america? garments? donny and marie?

it's a cult, and a very wealthy and strange one at that.

for those truly interested, i recommend "under the banner of heaven" by john krakauer (author of 'into the wild'). it should be available at your local library and it is absolutely fucking terrifying.

hedonist · May 2012

My ex-boss is Mormon and one of the most decent, open-minded people I've ever met...could talk religion and politics with him and feel like we were actually exchanging ideas - some agreed-upon, some not - but never with the real-life equivalent of the "rolly-eyes emoticon". No stereotyping of others, despite having that done to him over and over again by folks who may be as blind and closeminded themselves as they claim him and his kind to be.

And yes, he tithed. He did so despite having to make sacrifices for it. I admire that, just as I admire anyone who is charitable because they feel it's the right thing to do.

What a concept :P

Cosmo · May 2012

StillHere wrote:

If you are defining "Christian" in a mainstream way then
I don't think so .... exactly
I think that Catholics and Episcopalians believe in the Holy Trinity as 3 separate entities all rolled into one if that makes sense?
And other Christian groups believe that Jesus is the Son of God, died and rose again
But not as 3 separate entities

I could be wrong

Where are our learned Christian jammers?

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I have also heard/read that Catholics aren't 'Real Christians'... is that a true statement?

StillHere · May 2012

Cosmo wrote:

StillHere wrote:

If you are defining "Christian" in a mainstream way then
I don't think so .... exactly
I think that Catholics and Episcopalians believe in the Holy Trinity as 3 separate entities all rolled into one if that makes sense?
And other Christian groups believe that Jesus is the Son of God, died and rose again
But not as 3 separate entities

I could be wrong

Where are our learned Christian jammers?

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I have also heard/read that Catholics aren't 'Real Christians'... is that a true statement?

i was raised a Catholic (now recovering) and have had people call me many things that were not so great
and not in the spirit of their own "Christianity"
without bothering to look into how modern religion came about
many people think that Catholicism is a pagan religion
and in many aspects they are partially right
Catholics as well as many other Christian religions do worship pagan symbols
the Christmas tree for one example is an old Celtic pagan ritual
Also, praying to the Virgin Mary doesn't bode well with many other Christian sects

I could go on

But the truth of the matter is that when the Christians wanted to convert the Celts and other Pagan societies way back when, they were having trouble doing so
So they sort of combined pagan rituals and pagan holidays to make them more acceptable and palatable to both sides
Pagan solstices and other holidays were combined with Christian observances and eventually ended up being one and the same

So who's to condemn one or the other or any religion

Many religions take something from another and make it their own

Cosmo · May 2012

StillHere wrote:

i was raised a Catholic (now recovering) and have had people call me many things that were not so great
and not in the spirit of their own "Christianity"
without bothering to look into how modern religion came about
many people think that Catholicism is a pagan religion
and in many aspects they are partially right
Catholics as well as many other Christian religions do worship pagan symbols
the Christmas tree for one example is an old Celtic pagan ritual
Also, praying to the Virgin Mary doesn't bode well with many other Christian sects

I could go on

But the truth of the matter is that when the Christians wanted to convert the Celts and other Pagan societies way back when, they were having trouble doing so
So they sort of combined pagan rituals and pagan holidays to make them more acceptable and palatable to both sides
Pagan solstices and other holidays were combined with Christian observances and eventually ended up being one and the same

So who's to condemn one or the other or any religion

Many religions take something from another and make it their own

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Thanx fror the insight.
Which leads me back to the question... So, who gets to decide who is a 'Real Christian' and who isn't?
My best guess would be... NOT the person who has ever uttered the sentence, "He/She/They aren't 'Real Christians'."

CH156378 · May 2012

now i'm really getting confused. no surprise there!

you would think someone who was raised catholic, catholic school, and catholic church twice a week until the age of 15 would know more about this.

for the record i'm not asking if they are more or less christian than another form of christianity. just simply if it is considered a christian religion. if that makes any sense. but they do believe in christ. so i guess i would say they are christian.

JOEJOEJOE · May 2012

CH156378 wrote:

now i'm really getting confused. no surprise there!

you would think someone who was raised catholic, catholic school, and catholic church twice a week until the age of 15 would know more about this.

for the record i'm not asking if they are more or less christian than another form of christianity. just simply if it is considered a christian religion. if that makes any sense. but they do believe in christ. so i guess i would say they are christian.

substitute a few words here and there, and it sounds like one of those lame debates on who is a bigger PJ Fan!

riotgrl · May 2012

In comparing any sect within a religion, I always look at main beliefs. Do all Christians believe Jesus is savior, Messiah - yes. Do they believe in one God - yes. And we could continue with other main beliefs to confirm that they are indeed all Christians. Alot of the other divergent beliefs (Trinity, baptism, hell, etc) come from theological differences which is where those Christians start to say that others are or are not Christians. Me, I think Mormons are Christians even though they have differences from mainline Christians.

satansbed · May 2012

I don't know whether i would consider them christian.

the original christian church was the roman catholic church, then there was a schism which led to a split between the roman catholic church and the orthodox catholic churches. then the roman split again with Calvinism, Lutheran church, anglicism etc and all the various evangelical and protestant churches you have now in america evolved from these. (may have the order of this mixed up but that was the general theme in brief)

the Mormon church seems to have no real bloodline that relates to any split of these.

therefore i don't believe they are a christian church in the traditional sense but at the same time they recognize JC and all that jazz

but at the same time weather i actually consider them christian has no bearing on anything whatsoever

Smellyman · May 2012

I think the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints would consider themselves Chirstian. It is in their title.

Just because their version of myth doesn't follow anothers version of myth doesn't mean anything. A lot of Christian faiths differ.

Cosmo · May 2012

CH156378 wrote:

now i'm really getting confused. no surprise there!

you would think someone who was raised catholic, catholic school, and catholic church twice a week until the age of 15 would know more about this.

for the record i'm not asking if they are more or less christian than another form of christianity. just simply if it is considered a christian religion. if that makes any sense. but they do believe in christ. so i guess i would say they are christian.

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In my opinion... Yes. Mormons are followers of Christ, therefore Christians. Who am I to say who is Christian and who is not? Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals, Lutherans and even the Westboro Baptist Church members are all Christians. None of them get to say who is really a Christian and who is not.

CH156378 · May 2012

Cosmo wrote:

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In my opinion... Yes. Mormons are followers of Christ, therefore Christians. Who am I to say who is Christian and who is not? Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals, Lutherans and even the Westboro Baptist Church members are all Christians. None of them get to say who is really a Christian and who is not.

right. so, it's not like their are certain criteria for being christian. except for following or believing in christ.

Cosmo · May 2012

CH156378 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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In my opinion... Yes. Mormons are followers of Christ, therefore Christians. Who am I to say who is Christian and who is not? Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals, Lutherans and even the Westboro Baptist Church members are all Christians. None of them get to say who is really a Christian and who is not.

right. so, it's not like their are certain criteria for being christian. except for following or believing in christ.

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That's the way I see it. They can all call themselves Christians. And in the same spirit, cannot claim Jesus Christ as theor own personal possession. Meaning, a Born-Again Christian cannot say that a Catholic is not Christian and vice-versa. They all follow the same teacher... maybe on slightly different roads. And neither the Born-again nor the Catholic cannot say the Westboro Baptist Church is not Christian. They can sat the W.B.C. are assholes... which would be true, but who is granted the authority to say who is Christian and who ins not?
No one.

Prince Of Dorkness · May 2012

Mormonism is a cult. And a pretty vicious one.

Yeah... I know they give 10% of their income to their "church" which they get tax credits for. And the "church" uses it to fund political campaigns and built castles and shrines to themselves.

Yes I've met nice Mormons. Which is why I'm always very polite when I tell them that if I ever got the chance, I'd vote to have them all thrown in jail for life and burn their castles to the ground.

And yeah, I know that's mean. But no less than they deserve.

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