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  • Posts: 34,022
    The Juggler wrote:
    rauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul.

    Not a big fan.
  • Posts: 34,022
    This looks weird

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  • Deep South Philly Posts: 17,507
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    This looks weird

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    Ha. Really weird.
  • Posts: 34,022
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
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    Ha. Really weird.

    Yeah, I still haven't figured this whole Ibanez thing out yet. It'll take some time.
  • Deep South Philly Posts: 17,507
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
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    Yeah, I still haven't figured this whole Ibanez thing out yet. It'll take some time.

    It'll probably go like this - you'll convince yourself he's decent due to his value, and then after a couple months you'll realize he wasn't worth it even if he puts up 20/85-ish because they'll be at inopportune times that don't really mean shit. And his low on-base will drive you nuts.
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    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
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    Ha. Really weird.


    :| Meh, i don't expect much
  • Deep South Philly Posts: 17,507
    BinauralJam wrote:
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    :| Meh, i don't expect much

    Dude's probably gonna be in the lineup 70% of the time, so if you expect to win you should.
  • Posts: 34,022
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    It'll probably go like this - you'll convince yourself he's decent due to his value, and then after a couple months you'll realize he wasn't worth it even if he puts up 20/85-ish because they'll be at inopportune times that don't really mean shit. And his low on-base will drive you nuts.

    Yeah, that sounds about right. Jones is talking like he's going to be taking some peoples jobs this spring so we'll see. I would imagine he'll put up some decent numbers with the short porch but I hope he only plays against righties.
  • Posts: 1,415
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
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    Yeah, that sounds about right. Jones is talking like he's going to be taking some peoples jobs this spring so we'll see. I would imagine he'll put up some decent numbers with the short porch but I hope he only plays against righties.

    I think Jones will get the DH time against lefties except on days they decide to rest Jeter or A-Rod. I'd ike to think that Girardi is smart enough to keep Ibanez on the bench against lefties. They should probably just lock him in the bathroom and not let him out until a righty reliever enters the game on those days.
  • Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    There was an interesting piece in the Post today about Jones being a hall of famer. He has 420 home runs, but even the quotes from him had him saying he didn't believe he was a hall of famer at the present. But it is interesting since during several of his years with the Braves, he was among the top center fielders in the game.
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    Monster Rain wrote:
    except on days they decide to rest Jeter or A-Rod.

    I always laugh when I hear a baseball player has a night off to get some rest. :lol:
    Then again, those two are getting up there in baseball years.
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    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    There was an interesting piece in the Post today about Jones being a hall of famer. He has 420 home runs, but even the quotes from him had him saying he didn't believe he was a hall of famer at the present. But it is interesting since during several of his years with the Braves, he was among the top center fielders in the game.

    Heard about this. Will have to check it out. Seemed like he was a clear cut hall of famer in his early days. Will have to check it out.

    Joe Poz has a post up comparing Mike Cameron to Jim Rice. Am sure that will piss some people off.
  • Posts: 7,249
    Hall of Fame is interesting and frustrating.

    I think if you just compare numbers across generations you can get into trouble. you gotta compare them to their own era. Jones was the best of the best defensively but offensively i'm not sure how he stacks up against his contemporaries i'd have to look

    also for me they have to pass the eyeball test. You know a first ballot hall of famer when you see one play. Jones is not one, but maybe he gets in down the road

    He had a good 10 year run. I can't help but suspect steroids with him and perhaps that is why all of a sudden he can only be a platoon player and he has not even hit 35 years old yet. Either that or he lied about his age and was older when he came over from the netherlands. His OPS + is only 111 for his career which is good. Not sure its hall of fame good. You compare it to a guy like Bernie Williams who played the same position in a similar era and his OPS + is 125 and most folks agree great yankee but not a hal of famer I think for hitters its always nice to see you finish in the top 5 for the MVP award a few times which neither of them did.

    so yeah he has some good stats was great defensively but in my eyes not a hall of famer. Especially if Bernie isn't one
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  • Posts: 1,415
    I don't think Jones is getting in the Hall. He was great for a while but he fell off pretty dramatically when he entered the decline phase of his career. He's got a lot of HRs and was an excellent defender but he was an all-or-nothing type of hitter. He was good for a HR but he struck out a ton, never hit for much of an average aside from 2000 and hasn't hit better than .247 in the last 5 seasons (and that was last year as a platoon player). I think he falls just a little short of being a Hall of Fame player but he was great for a while. Plus, he palyed at the same time as Ken Griffey Jr. and the comparisons could sway some voters away from him. It's been so long sinc ehe was good that I was surprised to look at his numbers and see that he has a stronger case that I would've thought, though. I jsut don't think 400 HRs in this era is going to cut it when you look at his low average and the fact that you'd expect a CF to have more SB even if he was hitting in the middle of the lineup (he hasn't had double-digits in steals since 2001.
  • Posts: 34,022
    The Burt Reynolds twitter account is gone. Saw that coming. Mouth Hugs will forever been in my vocabulary now.
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    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Burt Reynolds twitter account is gone. Saw that coming. Mouth Hugs will forever been in my vocabulary now.

    Why? What was wrong with it? I only read a few tweets but it was nothing bad.
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  • Posts: 34,022
    Got my hands on an advance copy of this

    http://www.amazon.com/Pinstripe-Empire- ... 1608194922

    Going to dig into it tonight. I can't wait. I hear it's about as good as any Yankees book written.
  • Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Got my hands on an advance copy of this

    http://www.amazon.com/Pinstripe-Empire- ... 1608194922

    Going to dig into it tonight. I can't wait. I hear it's about as good as any Yankees book written.
    Should be good. Marty Appel is pretty close with the organization.
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    Oh, A-Rod...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... 43714.html
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  • Posts: 34,022
    Awww man. Look who's at camp.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/02/27/p ... ut-really/

    I miss that dude.

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