The Official New York Yankees Thread

Cliffy6745

Monster Rain wrote:

Now that they're about to finish up with that saga they can get back to looking for a DH. I've seen the reports that Ibanez is their top choice but I jsut don't understand why. I have a bad feeling that they'll regret it if they sign him. What are the odds that a 40-year old gets better after having a bad season at 39?

I don't get why they are going Ibanez over Damon either. I don't necessarily think they'll regret it as I'msure they'll trade for a bat if need be but I don't expect anything out of him. He'll only get a couple hundred at bats and not playing the field should help but he's just not good anymore.

Cliffy6745

This may be one of the players coming in the trade. Old for where he is, but not terrible numbers.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... reno001die

Edit:

Pirates prospects: "The Pirates didn’t sign Moreno until he was 20, which is relatively old for a Latin prospect to sign, but he’d had a jump in velocity. His fastball regularly reaches 97. He also throws a sharp slider that registers in the mid-80s, and an occasional change. He throws from a 3/4 angle that probably adds to the difficulty for RH hitters. So far, he’s had very good control."

Monster Rain

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Now that they're about to finish up with that saga they can get back to looking for a DH. I've seen the reports that Ibanez is their top choice but I jsut don't understand why. I have a bad feeling that they'll regret it if they sign him. What are the odds that a 40-year old gets better after having a bad season at 39?

I don't get why they are going Ibanez over Damon either. I don't necessarily think they'll regret it as I'msure they'll trade for a bat if need be but I don't expect anything out of him. He'll only get a couple hundred at bats and not playing the field should help but he's just not good anymore.

Yeah, I've seen reports that say they think he's better in the field than Damon or Matsui (definitely better than Matsui but aside from arm strength I'm not sure he's better than Damon), but it makes no sense to me. Most of his playing time will be at DH so why choose a guy who hit .245 last year (and was horrible anywhere but Citizens Bank Park) when there's a guy available who can actually hit well in any park and can hit both lefties and righties? I would assume the asking price is probably higher for Damon, but how much can he really be asking for at this point? For a 1-year deal I just don't see a reason to go with the cheaper option when the price difference is probably only a couple million dollars and they just cut at least $5 million from the books for this season.

Cliffy6745

Monster Rain wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Now that they're about to finish up with that saga they can get back to looking for a DH. I've seen the reports that Ibanez is their top choice but I jsut don't understand why. I have a bad feeling that they'll regret it if they sign him. What are the odds that a 40-year old gets better after having a bad season at 39?

I don't get why they are going Ibanez over Damon either. I don't necessarily think they'll regret it as I'msure they'll trade for a bat if need be but I don't expect anything out of him. He'll only get a couple hundred at bats and not playing the field should help but he's just not good anymore.

Yeah, I've seen reports that say they think he's better in the field than Damon or Matsui (definitely better than Matsui but aside from arm strength I'm not sure he's better than Damon), but it makes no sense to me. Most of his playing time will be at DH so why choose a guy who hit .245 last year (and was horrible anywhere but Citizens Bank Park) when there's a guy available who can actually hit well in any park and can hit both lefties and righties? I would assume the asking price is probably higher for Damon, but how much can he really be asking for at this point? For a 1-year deal I just don't see a reason to go with the cheaper option when the price difference is probably only a couple million dollars and they just cut at least $5 million from the books for this season.

Agreed and who gives a shit what he can do in the field, he's the 5th outfielder and will probably see about 10 innings in the field.

Bronx Bombers

I wouldn't give any of these guys the yanks are looking at a guaranteed contract. Offer them a minor league deal and wait and see if any teams lose a starter during the spring. With our SP depth(Garcia,Mitchell,Phelps) we should be able to grab a bat instead of going with one of the fossils that are being talked about.

Cliffy6745

And the other "prospect"

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... yone001exi

Monster Rain

I was looking at Ken Rosenthal's Twitter (via Twackle since Twitter is blocked at work) and there are quite a few Pirates fans excited about acquiring AJ. I feel so bad for them. I don't know if they really think he's going to be good or if they're just so beaten down by 2 decades of losing records that any scrap heap deal seems like a blessing based solely on it not being one of their "prospects" who would be warming the bench on most other organizations' AAA teams.

Bronx Bombers

I wont be surprised at all if he has some success, AJ will have it much easier pitching in the AAA league the pirates play in.

Cliffy6745

Monster Rain wrote:

I was looking at Ken Rosenthal's Twitter (via Twackle since Twitter is blocked at work) and there are quite a few Pirates fans excited about acquiring AJ. I feel so bad for them. I don't know if they really think he's going to be good or if they're just so beaten down by 2 decades of losing records that any scrap heap deal seems like a blessing based solely on it not being one of their "prospects" who would be warming the bench on most other organizations' AAA teams.

I don't think this is a bad move for them. Better pitchers park, much worse hitters and less pressure. I think he'll be pretty good. I wouldn't be suprsied if he has a good year.

Cliffy6745

Bronx Bombers wrote:

I wouldn't give any of these guys the yanks are looking at a guaranteed contract. Offer them a minor league deal and wait and see if any teams lose a starter during the spring. With our SP depth(Garcia,Mitchell,Phelps) we should be able to grab a bat instead of going with one of the fossils that are being talked about.

Yeah, I hate the idea of Ibanez the most.

CROJAM95

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

I wouldn't give any of these guys the yanks are looking at a guaranteed contract. Offer them a minor league deal and wait and see if any teams lose a starter during the spring. With our SP depth(Garcia,Mitchell,Phelps) we should be able to grab a bat instead of going with one of the fossils that are being talked about.

Yeah, I hate the idea of Ibanez the most.

At least if it happens my Philly boots won't annoy me as much with Ed's love-fest with

Raaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuul

Those moments always make me cringe. Not for me, but for Ed

Ok shout the guy out but

Raaaaaaauuuuuuul in that voice.......gross

Bronx Bombers

Trade done yanks save 13mm

igotid88

What if A.J. fails the physical?

Cliffy6745

igotid88 wrote:

What if A.J. fails the physical?

Suprisingly his health was all he had going for him. He's not going to fail and if he does he probably wouldn't pitch this season anyways.

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Trade is in place it sounds like

Thanks for this

my grandmother could whiff Howard

Cliffy6745

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Trade is in place it sounds like

Thanks for this

my grandmother could whiff Howard

ha, true. Best picture I could find from that game that showed both teams.

Cliffy6745

Spring training bitches

DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Spring training bitches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc&ob=av2e

igotid88

Trade official press release

The New York Yankees today announced they have traded right-handed pitcher A.J. Burnett and cash considerations to Pittsburgh in exchange for minor leaguers RHP Diego Moreno and OF Exicardo Cayones.

Moreno, 25, combined to make 41 relief appearances with Single-A Bradenton and Double-A Altoona in 2011, going 2-4 with a 3.63 ERA (44.2IP, 18ER). He struck out 45 batters and held opponents to a .218 (36-for-165) batting average. In five minor league seasons (2007-11), he has combined to strike out 212 batters in 194.0 innings pitched over 116 games (six starts). A native of Higuerote, Venezuela, Moreno was signed by the Pirates as a non-drafted free agent on August 21, 2006.

Cayones, 20, was signed as a non-drafted free agent on July 4, 2008, out of Valencia, Venezuela. In three minor league seasons, he has batted .272 (128-for-471) with 34 doubles, seven triples, one home run and 68 RBI in 149 games, appearing at all three outfield positions. He split the 2011 season between the GCL Pirates and short-season Single-A State College, combining to hit .228 (26-for-114) in 38 games.

Burnett, 35, was signed by the Yankees as a free agent on December 18, 2008, to a five-year contract. In his three seasons with the club, he went 34-35 with a 4.79 ERA (584.0IP, 311ER) in 99 games (98 starts). His 58 wild pitches recorded during his three-year stint with the Yankees (2009-11) were the most for any Major League pitcher over a three-season span since Tony Cloninger threw 62 wild pitches from 1964 through 1966, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

He posted an 11-11 record with a 5.15 ERA (190.1IP, 109ER) in 33 appearances (32GS) with the Yankees in 2011, setting career-highs in home runs allowed (31) and tying a career-high in earned runs allowed, while ranking first with a franchise-record 25 wild pitches – the most by any Major League pitcher in a single season since the start of the 2000s and the fifth most since 1900.

Cliffy6745

While it's only $1 mil, I'm not a big fan of this deal at all. For some reason the team likes Ibanez a lot more than Damon. Could be that Damon's asking for $5 mil while Ibanez is asking for $1 mil. I really hope he doesn't see more than 300 at bats.