OCCUPY WALL STREET - Spreading
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somewhere Karl Marx is smiling from his grave...0
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This is my song about what's happening in our country and world and OWS
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Sorry everyone, but I'm not impressed by 99% of what I'm seeing from the "99%" at Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Wherever Else Radicals Need a Place to Socialize and/or Fuck Shit Up. It's getting cold and rainy, and I think it's time pack it up, and prepare for the next round of festivities. It was fun while it lasted. Chin up, and as always, Hail Caesar!0
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kenny olav wrote:Sorry everyone, but I'm not impressed by 99% of what I'm seeing from the "99%" at Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Wherever Else Radicals Need a Place to Socialize and/or Fuck Shit Up. It's getting cold and rainy, and I think it's time pack it up, and prepare for the next round of festivities. It was fun while it lasted. Chin up, and as always, Hail Caesar!
So sorry to let you down.0 -
Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.0 -
but from what context were the "99 percent" swindled? isn't it a multi-media context controlled, to a large extent, by the 1 percent. Who decides what is news, what is the next thing people need to be spending their money on, the issues we need to be debating, and so on. yes the 99 percent has been tricked, but the very discussions they've been tricked on were started by the 1 percent.kenny olav wrote:Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.0 -
kenny olav wrote:Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.
If by swindled you mean at fault for trusting people to do the right thing, then sure. The swindlers then, are criminals and should be in jail. But are they? Most people are not familiar with credit-default swaps, or the intricacies of mortgage-backed securities and how they can be manipulated. But, my friends who work on Wall St.--actually one of them semi-retired at 31--back the protests. One of them joins the protests, which are held about 100 yards form his office.
And your thoughts on what most people want, I agree to a point: a lot of people are selfish, materialistic, Dawn of the Dead zombies (yay malls!). Most people I have met though, would disagree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I want none of that, and many people, even on AMT, feel the same way. What you are saying (I think) is that we need a serious shift in our national consciousness, and you are correct.
Go down to a protest. Talk to the people.
p.s. McDonalds is poison. Who would want that crap?
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good thing all of those crooked bankers have all been prosecuted....
oh wait..
NONE of them have been prosecuted...
the companies got fined, and the employees got massive bonuses for fucking everything up.
this is what i am most pissed about..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
kenny olav wrote:Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.
Insisting on staying in the minority brings no change at all. :roll:
That said, I somewhat agree that the majority just want fast food, their couches, tv, corporate job and cheap crap. But that doesn't excuse the rest of us including the "sensible few" as you put it to comfortably criticize those who give a damn and actually go out and protest.
Those countries that actually had revolutions in the past year? Egypt? Syria? They make the U.S. look like scared fools.0 -
whygohome wrote:kenny olav wrote:Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.
If by swindled you mean at fault for trusting people to do the right thing, then sure. The swindlers then, are criminals and should be in jail. But are they? Most people are not familiar with credit-default swaps, or the intricacies of mortgage-backed securities and how they can be manipulated. But, my friends who work on Wall St.--actually one of them semi-retired at 31--back the protests. One of them joins the protests, which are held about 100 yards form his office.
And your thoughts on what most people want, I agree to a point: a lot of people are selfish, materialistic, Dawn of the Dead zombies (yay malls!). Most people I have met though, would disagree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I want none of that, and many people, even on AMT, feel the same way. What you are saying (I think) is that we need a serious shift in our national consciousness, and you are correct.
Go down to a protest. Talk to the people.
p.s. McDonalds is poison. Who would want that crap?
billions and billions want that crap. hell, I buy their coffee often. it's a buck. i can afford that. and at least it's organic.
i hate being cynical, i really do. and i also really do want to go down to Occupy Boston to see it for myself. I think the media probably does focus on the loonies, but the thing is, I spent a few hours searching youtube for a protestor who i felt inspired by, and it just didn't happen. i mainly did this because a friend of mine who's very pro-Republican, pro-capitalism put a video on Facebook of a protestor speaking who did sound very very foolish. i thought i'd counter him with a video of a protester giving a brilliant speech. like i said, i searched for hours, and I just couldn't find anyone who I felt really nailed it. i grew up around conservatives, and i know how they think, and i don't know if there's any way to get through to most of them.
i see all these videos from Occupy Wall Street where the 'human microphone' is being used, and it comes across as ridiculous to me, so you can imagine how it looks to those who don't want to have sympathy toward them.
and don't get me started on all the people wearing V for Vendetta masks.
i joined the Green Party years ago. I participated in their conventions. I even got elected Communications Director for the state party. as well-meaning as these people were, I found the whole thing overwhelmingly pointless, and I quit after about 4 months. too many people in the party were just too extreme in their presentation, and I kinda get why they end up that way, because you feel like people aren't taking all of these issues seriously, but the reason you end up feeling that way, is because people really aren't taking them seriously. and that's why we end up with the problems we have. it's like trying to push a giant boulder up a hill, and people at the top are rolling even larger boulders down at you, and the people around you are busy doing nothing useful.0 -
Kenny how about Slavoj Zizek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylsD-MM ... re=related
John Carlos and Dave Zirin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx4FkRxRWmE
Cornel West
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kenny olav wrote:whygohome wrote:kenny olav wrote:Wall Street couldn't have gotten away with what they did if the majority of people weren't so capable of being swindled - if they weren't blinded by their own greed. That's why people bought the idea of investing in 401ks, and investing more of their money in Wall Street in general.
So for these protesters to claim they are representing the "99%", well, they are ignoring the simple fact that most people are to blame for the situation we are in, not just the "1%".
Most people are not wanting to create a sensible, sustainable society. Most people want cheap junk food, clothing made in sweatshops, and all the energy they can consume regardless of the cost to the environment, and most people don't care that we occupy foreign countries and support dictatorships so that we can have all the oil we need. And the list goes on.
So I don't support the "99%". I support the sensible few who are greatly outnumbered by the insane many. And I don't trust anyone who claims they represent the majority.
If by swindled you mean at fault for trusting people to do the right thing, then sure. The swindlers then, are criminals and should be in jail. But are they? Most people are not familiar with credit-default swaps, or the intricacies of mortgage-backed securities and how they can be manipulated. But, my friends who work on Wall St.--actually one of them semi-retired at 31--back the protests. One of them joins the protests, which are held about 100 yards form his office.
And your thoughts on what most people want, I agree to a point: a lot of people are selfish, materialistic, Dawn of the Dead zombies (yay malls!). Most people I have met though, would disagree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I want none of that, and many people, even on AMT, feel the same way. What you are saying (I think) is that we need a serious shift in our national consciousness, and you are correct.
Go down to a protest. Talk to the people.
p.s. McDonalds is poison. Who would want that crap?
billions and billions want that crap. hell, I buy their coffee often. it's a buck. i can afford that. and at least it's organic.
i hate being cynical, i really do. and i also really do want to go down to Occupy Boston to see it for myself. I think the media probably does focus on the loonies, but the thing is, I spent a few hours searching youtube for a protestor who i felt inspired by, and it just didn't happen. i mainly did this because a friend of mine who's very pro-Republican, pro-capitalism put a video on Facebook of a protestor speaking who did sound very very foolish. i thought i'd counter him with a video of a protester giving a brilliant speech. like i said, i searched for hours, and I just couldn't find anyone who I felt really nailed it. i grew up around conservatives, and i know how they think, and i don't know if there's any way to get through to most of them.
i see all these videos from Occupy Wall Street where the 'human microphone' is being used, and it comes across as ridiculous to me, so you can imagine how it looks to those who don't want to have sympathy toward them.
and don't get me started on all the people wearing V for Vendetta masks.
i joined the Green Party years ago. I participated in their conventions. I even got elected Communications Director for the state party. as well-meaning as these people were, I found the whole thing overwhelmingly pointless, and I quit after about 4 months. too many people in the party were just too extreme in their presentation, and I kinda get why they end up that way, because you feel like people aren't taking all of these issues seriously, but the reason you end up feeling that way, is because people really aren't taking them seriously. and that's why we end up with the problems we have. it's like trying to push a giant boulder up a hill, and people at the top are rolling even larger boulders down at you, and the people around you are busy doing nothing useful.
Sisyphus is part of the 99%.
What's 33% of billions and billions of people?: an unsustainable population of incredibly unhealthy people.
Atlas is only so strong.
Good work with the Green Party. I, too, get frustrated at the near impossibility of bringing a new voice into the political/social discourse. Quite frustrating; but, it is still worth it, in my opinion.
A friend once said to me----commenting on the difficulty of "change" and the utter stubbornness and the intractability of people's born-into ideologies---"that in the grand scheme of things there's nothing one individual can do. So, you just need to live your life the way you feel most people should. In the end, you'll always be able to sleep at night, and you won't be stuck in an ideological/religious prison that you were placed into as a child"
We're all just visiting, all just breaking like waves.0 -
Imagine! Albany cops defy the governor's and the mayor's orders for arresting peaceful protestors. Finally - not ALL cops are bad.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/24/n ... rotesters/0 -
amongst all this is your song ... beautiful, sad, and very very good!walter mann wrote:This is my song about what's happening in our country and world and OWS
http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/3465364
loved it, thank you!
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“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men” - PlatoCONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
am I the only one who wants this shit to get ultraviolent? Seriously we, the people, have done big protests before ('68 comes to mind), but nothing big will happen. What would happen if Phil Knight, Donald Trump, and the benevolent slaveowner Warren Buffett were being held over the Empire State Building with their lives in the hands of a sweatshop employee and an unemployed college grad? Maybe I'm wrong, and I really could be, but sometimes I think that making the powerful feel the fear, despair, and sadness we feel would get something done.0
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What exactly will that accomplish? Removing a few people with money won't solve the problem.. they would merely be replace by others in the same shoes... if you want change, burn down Wall Street then march to DC next. Break the system. It would also help if the people of our nation stop enabling the problem...RW81233 wrote:am I the only one who wants this shit to get ultraviolent? Seriously we, the people, have done big protests before ('68 comes to mind), but nothing big will happen. What would happen if Phil Knight, Donald Trump, and the benevolent slaveowner Warren Buffett were being held over the Empire State Building with their lives in the hands of a sweatshop employee and an unemployed college grad? Maybe I'm wrong, and I really could be, but sometimes I think that making the powerful feel the fear, despair, and sadness we feel would get something done.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
Count yourself lucky not to be filthy rich
chances are you will break the laws of eternity and do something to regret
I would say no one should go to 'war' for money but that is all they go to war for,
it seems, including 'occupy'
For me, I would rather be a peasant and smell the roses 0 -
Great, this place is awesome.
Now we are advocating getting "ultraviolent" and burning down wall street and then heading to Washington....to do the same?
I thought violence was never the answer?hippiemom = goodness0
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