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dignin

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

cincybearcat

dignin wrote:

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:

Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”

Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?

know1

cincybearcat wrote:

dignin wrote:

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:

Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”

Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?

Yep - that's pretty dumb.

Last time I checked, the majority of college students are adults. Just because "kids are told to get an expensive degree" doesn't mean these adults should do that. Take a little responsibility for your actions.

In this day and age, I'm really starting to question the value of a college degree for many professions anyway.

EdsonNascimento

cincybearcat wrote:

dignin wrote:

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:

Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”

Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?

This is the funniest part of these things. There's always a bunch of folks involved that don't realize how their personal story HURTS the cause. Dance performance... And my son's going to be a professional ball player. And if that doesn't happen, I'll instruct him to go to a park in Manhattan to tell people they need to pay off his years of paying professional trainers.

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento wrote:

This is the funniest part of these things. There's always a bunch of folks involved that don't realize how their personal story HURTS the cause. Dance performance... And my son's going to be a professional ball player. And if that doesn't happen, I'll instruct him to go to a park in Manhattan to tell people they need to pay off his years of paying professional trainers.

your analogy is a poor one.

you can do more than "perform" with a dance degree. you can teach, you can choreograph, you can own your own dance studio, and they teach you more than just how to dance. i am sure that people know that there is not a lot of money in only performing. even if you make it as a chorus girl in vegas. at least people with any sort of a degree have a better chance of finding work than a high school dropout with a ged. AND who says she has to work in the field that her degree is in anyway?

you banking your future on your son "making it" to the big leagues is completely different. for one, he is not paying for education. possibly instruction with coaches and performance enhancers, but i doubt you will be paying for books, room and board, tuition and fees, meal/cafeteria passes, etc... if he plays baseball only and does not go to school he has nothing to fall back on. i have worked with many many professional athletes, and these people are the best of the best. not only that, but they are the luckiest of the lucky. i am confident that there are a lot of people with dance degrees that do have decent jobs.

people are saying the protesters are mad because they have to pay off their loan debt and it is "too bad" and "their own fault". is it really their fault when all their lives they are told to "go to college, get a good education and you can be prepared for the workforce and get yourself a good paying job." that was the american dream. that was how it has been for a few generations now. now we have people graduating and no jobs and they are riddled with debt. it is becoming the american nightmare. and people on here are laughing at them and condemning them for being fucking pissed off about it??? wake up america. this is your new reality.

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am confident that there are a lot of people with dance degrees that do have decent jobs.

I'm sure there are. I'm also sure there are way more graduates than jobs available in this field regardless of what the economy looks like at any point in time.

Anyhow, it's just 1 person, but I found it funny. Didn't teach common sense at that school apparently.

It's great to pursue your dream, but accept the challenges that come with it.

jimc3

I think they should focus on one thing, and this one thing only:

end corpotate influence over politics / lobbying / "crony capitalism" / tax breaks/loopholes

this is the one thing that progressives, libertarians AND conservatives will all agree with and support.


that means not just ending the backroom deals, letting corporations write legislative bills / have influence over policy, and the military-industrial complex. it also means ending the politically-motivated financial grants (hello, Solyndra) and programs (that means you, ACORN & Fannie/Freddie).

you know, let the free market actually be FREE.

regulate to a sensible level: no thousand page, cover-everyones ass regulatory documents written by some unelected bureaucrat in one of those monstrosity administrative departments. but also, sound the goddamn alarm bells when the next credit default swap / mortgage-backed securities "technically it's not illegal (only because it's brand new), but it sure seems like it SHOULD be" thing comes along.


that actually WILL get you 99% support


but if you go on with the "all corporations are evil" / "capitalism doesn't work" crap (especially as you live tweet the protesting from your smartphone), people are gonna lose interest REAL quick.

dignin

this is from Paul Krugman, winner of Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2008....he might have an idea of what hes talking about

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/opini ... yt&emc=rss

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento

jimc3 wrote:

I think they should focus on one thing, and this one thing only:

end corpotate influence over politics / lobbying / "crony capitalism" / tax breaks/loopholes

this is the one thing that progressives, libertarians AND conservatives will all agree with and support.


that means not just ending the backroom deals, letting corporations write legislative bills / have influence over policy, and the military-industrial complex. it also means ending the politically-motivated financial grants (hello, Solyndra) and programs (that means you, ACORN & Fannie/Freddie).

you know, let the free market actually be FREE.

regulate to a sensible level: no thousand page, cover-everyones ass regulatory documents written by some unelected bureaucrat in one of those monstrosity administrative departments. but also, sound the goddamn alarm bells when the next credit default swap / mortgage-backed securities "technically it's not illegal (only because it's brand new), but it sure seems like it SHOULD be" thing comes along.


that actually WILL get you 99% support


but if you go on with the "all corporations are evil" / "capitalism doesn't work" crap (especially as you live tweet the protesting from your smartphone), people are gonna lose interest REAL quick.

You make too much sense. How'd you end up here?

markin ball

cincybearcat wrote:

dignin wrote:

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:

Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”

Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?

I'm not saying she shouldn't be responsible for the choices she's made but our society/culture rams it down our throats that a college degree is this amazing thing that leads to a fulfilling career and a comfortable living. This is often not the case, however. I think its institutionalized and many people out of college do have a very warped sense of "the real world".

jimc3

markin ball wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

dignin wrote:

getting bigger

http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire

NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:

Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”

Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?

I'm not saying she shouldn't be responsible for the choices she's made but our society/culture rams it down our throats that a college degree is this amazing thing that leads to a fulfilling career and a comfortable living. This is often not the case, however. I think its institutionalized and many people out of college do have a very warped sense of "the real world".

Sept 2011 unemployment rate for those with a Bachelor's degree and higher is 4.2%

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm

sure, they're not all "fulfilled" and "comfortable"...but they have a CHANCE to be

capitalism doesn't garauntee success. it garauntees the OPPORTUNITY for success

DragonsAfter3or4

I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook

gimmesometruth27

DragonsAfter3or4 wrote:

I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook

glad you are posting sources allied with corporate owned media. these corporations are the same ones being protested, so of course they are going to convey that message to you.

DragonsAfter3or4

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

DragonsAfter3or4 wrote:

I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook

glad you are posting sources allied with corporate owned media. these corporations are the same ones being protested, so of course they are going to convey that message to you.

Wow, that was your response?? So Lerners plan is all made up? LOL. WOW, more delusional than I could possibly imagine.... Is this link okay or is Youtube one of the sources allied with corporate owned media and conveying a message to me? :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0PlElVWshk

Byrnzie

DragonsAfter3or4 wrote:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/38593#.TozQYqNxhbw.facebook

'Canada Free Press - Because without America there is no free World'?

What is this bullsh*t?


Edit: Ah, I see: 'Espousing Conservative viewpoints, cornerstone of which contain love of God, love of family, love of country...'

In other words, a webpage for people who love abstract ideals.

whygohome

DragonsAfter3or4 wrote:

I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook

Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.

These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.

And to all a good night!!!!!!

brianlux

There still seem to be huge misconceptions about OWS. As I mentioned elsewhere, I just talked with a guy today who got canned by a corporation, has been struggling ever since, still holds the corporation in awe, says he knows what's going on because he watches "the news", that almost all the protesters don't know what the are protesting, that they are mostly kids looking for a free hand out, that after several days they "must be ripe [smelling]". Sheesh! Apparently, this is what "the news" is telling people. Anybody who has seriously followed this knows how false those accusations are.

Thank you to the brave OWS souls! (I wish I could join you.)

inlet13

whygohome wrote:

DragonsAfter3or4 wrote:

I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook

Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.

These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.

And to all a good night!!!!!!

Seriously, man? You got to call people "cocksuckers?" because they disagree with you.

This is exactly what's wrong with this place. No one wants a dialogue with the opposition. Tolerance... ha ha.